Looking for a guinea pig to make a custom header
03-08-2006, 12:18 PM
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Looking for a guinea pig to make a custom header
I'm looking for some in the Phoenix or surronding area who would be interested in a custom header. I know their are a few quality headers available on the market, but I'd like to try my hand at one. The shop is located near the 75th and 101, NW corner of the valley. Prototype Price will be $500 installed. I will also need the car for atleast 1 week. If anyone is interested please shoot me a PM, and I will give you my contact info.
P.S. If there is a market I will continue to make other products...
Here are a few pictures of some other parts we have made in the past: ka24De turbo manifold, 2nd Gen Rx-7 Non-Turbo Header, 2nd and 3rd Gen Single Turbo Manifolds...
P.S. If there is a market I will continue to make other products...
Here are a few pictures of some other parts we have made in the past: ka24De turbo manifold, 2nd Gen Rx-7 Non-Turbo Header, 2nd and 3rd Gen Single Turbo Manifolds...
03-08-2006, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
^I must agree...and 1K for 3HP is a bad deal every way you look at it, just an FYI. I hope you find someone to help...
03-09-2006, 08:47 AM
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Thanks Japan8....you see, that's why I said that.
But, I don't want to rain on anyone's party...I hope the best and you get someone to help you out.
But, I don't want to rain on anyone's party...I hope the best and you get someone to help you out.
03-09-2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Japan8
^^ uh that would be because every header made to date has roughly yielded that much power on the dyno.
03-09-2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
oh like the "all mufflers produce the same power regardless of design" thinking that got smashed by a particular company
Truthfully? Not statistically significant. Sorry. 1-2 cars dynoed even 4 times each when especially their reported gains are so relatively small... it isn't statistically significant for all Renesis motors.
Would this particular company be the one with the 3" system?
03-10-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
a prototype with car loan should typically be for free
Prices of materials, 304SS U bends, a large blank sheet for flanges, and watter jetting done in the US is not cheap. Those Ebay companies are using chinese SS I believe. I've tried welding a few of those cracked ebay Rx-7 units and there is a reason those parts are cheap.
Anyhow I would prefer someone locally, as I like try a turbo kit and some other things...
03-10-2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Japan8
Are you refering to NA or turbo car gains? I hope it's NA, because turbos have no relation to a thread about a NA header.
Truthfully? Not statistically significant. Sorry. 1-2 cars dynoed even 4 times each when especially their reported gains are so relatively small... it isn't statistically significant for all Renesis motors.
Would this particular company be the one with the 3" system?
Truthfully? Not statistically significant. Sorry. 1-2 cars dynoed even 4 times each when especially their reported gains are so relatively small... it isn't statistically significant for all Renesis motors.
Would this particular company be the one with the 3" system?
oh right - what was i thinking? why should any vendors even try to develop new products, I mean after 2 years there can't be any significant discoveries yet and we already know the max possible gains from every modification.
... oops, oh yea - the small block chevy is still being improved in header/head/ect design for 40 years now
03-11-2006, 06:40 AM
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r0tor...my comment is more of a baseline, I'm not saying he can't get more out of it...I'm just saying that 3Hp for 1K is not worth it.
Where did I ever say that he couldn't get this or that? I hope them the best
Where did I ever say that he couldn't get this or that? I hope them the best
03-11-2006, 11:32 AM
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^^ ditto. r0tor... stop being an ***. No one said they shouldn't make it, just that gains have been low, so not much is EXPECTED there and especially because of this lower cost is best. If they can magically make one that gives everyone 20rwhp, then people would be willing to drop $1,000 for one. Otherwise...
03-11-2006, 04:48 PM
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people wonder why there is so little support... and i'm an *** for trying to encourage a new vendor and give him the benefit of the doubt...
brilliant!!
brilliant!!
Most likely there is little support because there is little to gain. BUT...the aftermarket for the RX8 is alot better today than it was before and ALL of us welcome better products and better prices.
Like TeamRX8 said...why don't you offer your 8 so he can test it on? I'm not in the area so I can't help him.
r0tor...relax, we all want better products at better prices...no one is telling him to give up on his idea.
03-11-2006, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
So...there is little support because we suggest that IF they build something they make it worth our money? Hmmmmm...
Most likely there is little support because there is little to gain. BUT...the aftermarket for the RX8 is alot better today than it was before and ALL of us welcome better products and better prices.
Like TeamRX8 said...why don't you offer your 8 so he can test it on? I'm not in the area so I can't help him.
r0tor...relax, we all want better products at better prices...no one is telling him to give up on his idea.
Most likely there is little support because there is little to gain. BUT...the aftermarket for the RX8 is alot better today than it was before and ALL of us welcome better products and better prices.
Like TeamRX8 said...why don't you offer your 8 so he can test it on? I'm not in the area so I can't help him.
r0tor...relax, we all want better products at better prices...no one is telling him to give up on his idea.
... and last time i looked, PA is about as far as it gets in the US from AZ...
03-12-2006, 06:40 PM
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r0tor...explain and explain...and explain, you still don't understand what we are saying...oh well, I wan't take up more thread space than I have already.
03-16-2006, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
He's in PA, I'm not saying nobody should help him either, but rather an NA header is a whole different animal than a turbo manifold WRT optimizing the design for the best power
Well I met a local with an Rx-8 while I was on a test drive with an Rx-7, so I might have found a guinea pig
Do headers void the OEM warranty?