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stinksause 10-30-2014 07:42 AM

Is that powdercoated greddy piping or did you increase the diameter?

9krpmrx8 10-30-2014 09:27 AM

The middle pipe is a stock Greddy but with AN fittings (going larger there all the way to the turbo is my next step), the last pc of the actual intake pipe is all custom 3.5" pipe. The MAF housing is billet and has a honeycomb air straighter built in.

stinksause 10-30-2014 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4639491)
The middle pipe is a stock Greddy but with AN fittings (going larger there all the way to the turbo is my next step), the last pc of the actual intake pipe is all custom 3.5" pipe. The MAF housing is billet and has a honeycomb air straighter built in.

Did you have to mess with that oval opening at all?

logalinipoo 10-30-2014 08:07 PM

What oval?

Legot 10-30-2014 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4639686)
What oval?

The hole where the stock air duct comes into the engine bay.

Brettus 10-30-2014 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4639686)
What oval?

I have 3.5" tube going through there ........ Can't remember what I had to do to get it through but I don't think it was a biggie ........

Brettus 11-01-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4639448)
Goals are ......... cheap , looks good , sounds good , doesn't lose power


Brettspeed Intake ...........Done . Only hang up is that it didn't turn out as easy to do as I had hoped and isn't really something I would do a DIY for - which was my original plan .

logalinipoo 11-01-2014 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4639689)
I have 3.5" tube going through there ........ Can't remember what I had to do to get it through but I don't think it was a biggie ........

Thats what i have through there 3.5" od

Legot 11-01-2014 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4640119)
Brettspeed Intake ...........Done . Only hang up is that it didn't turn out as easy to do as I had hoped and isn't really something I would do a DIY for - which was my original plan .

That's nice. What was more difficult than expected? I'd remove and put a cap on that resonator chamber (the one hanging off the accordion) it can't do anything once the OEM horizontal run of the intake is removed. It's only taking up space as it exists now.

Even if you don't do a DIY, the materials and methods you used would be good to list for someone that might be interested in the future.

9krpmrx8 11-01-2014 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by stinksause (Post 4639672)
Did you have to mess with that oval opening at all?


No problem getting a 3.5" thru there, even with my thicker aftermarket rad. Mine is 3.5" all the way to the Greddy pipe.

Brettus 11-02-2014 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by Legot (Post 4640126)
That's nice. What was more difficult than expected? I'd remove and put a cap on that resonator chamber (the one hanging off the accordion) it can't do anything once the OEM horizontal run of the intake is removed. It's only taking up space as it exists now.

Even if you don't do a DIY, the materials and methods you used would be good to list for someone that might be interested in the future.

*Was hoping it wouldn't need a screen as there was so much straight tube before the maf .......... It did need one .
*Had to make a straightener for the filter at the end of the tube to get filter to sit right .
*Had to cut away one flange for mounting that plasic piece between bumper and front engine bay.
*Filter is a really tight fit and has to be crushed a little by the bumper mount .

I just don't think people will want to deal with all of that . It does sound great and looks pretty good IMO , and was cheap to make .

nycgps 11-02-2014 11:01 AM

that looks bad ass 9k. sell me 1 ? lol

9krpmrx8 11-02-2014 10:31 PM

Get a Greddy Turbo kit and I will, :lol:

RIF 11-04-2014 01:40 PM

I decided to get the Revi Air Duct and leave the Stock Air Box. I will see if there is any discernible difference between stock and stock with the Duct. *shrug*

nycgps 11-04-2014 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4640317)
Get a Greddy Turbo kit and I will, :lol:

AWWWW

:rock:

I have to start saving those pennies up ... takes a while ... wait :hahano:

Brettus 11-04-2014 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by RIF (Post 4640732)
I decided to get the Revi Air Duct and leave the Stock Air Box. I will see if there is any discernible difference between stock and stock with the Duct. *shrug*

I did that when NA and was prettty happy with the outcome .. Just make sure you seal up the join as RB doesn't supply anything to do that with.

RIF 11-04-2014 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4640803)
I did that when NA and was prettty happy with the outcome .. Just make sure you seal up the join as RB doesn't supply anything to do that with.


Can you provide some insight on this? I thought it would be a direct fit.

EDIT: Found your thread from 7 years go. Thank you!

Legot 11-04-2014 08:05 PM

I think he just means to add some kind of sealant around the rim of the duct-to-airbox outlet. The stock duct has a thin strip of foam sealing the gap, you probably will have to do the same with silicone or tape.

RIF 11-07-2014 02:25 PM

I am trying to install my Revi Ram Air Duct to the Stock Box and I ran into a couple of problems:

1.) The duct does not come anywhere near the entrance to the stock box. Is this normal? Shouldn't this sit flush into the stock box the way the VFAD does?

2.) There's a cable that makes anything the size of the Revi Ram Air Duct nigh impossible to fit through.

Should I be using something to connect to the Duct to the Box or just let the air flow through? It seems a bit incorrect.

Brettus 11-07-2014 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by RIF (Post 4641665)
I am trying to install my Revi Ram Air Duct to the Stock Box and I ran into a couple of problems:

1.) The duct does not come anywhere near the entrance to the stock box. Is this normal? Shouldn't this sit flush into the stock box the way the VFAD does?

2.) There's a cable that makes anything the size of the Revi Ram Air Duct nigh impossible to fit through.

Should I be using something to connect to the Duct to the Box or just let the air flow through? It seems a bit incorrect.

I cut up the VFAD to fit the RB duct to the stock airbox . Worked great . Had pics on how to do it in this thread but they have dissappeared .

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aft...-airbox-97962/

RIF 11-07-2014 02:39 PM

Confusion.... :(
 

Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4641671)
I cut up the VFAD to fit the RB duct to the stock airbox . Worked great . Had pics on how to do it in this thread but they have dissappeared .

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aft...-airbox-97962/

I just spoke with a representative at Racing Beat and he claimed that it was "not supposed to go right into the airbox" because of the Ram Air Effect. That doesn't exactly sound right to me.

Brettus 11-07-2014 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by RIF (Post 4641672)
I just spoke with a representative at Racing Beat and he claimed that it was "not supposed to go right into the airbox" because of the Ram Air Effect. That doesn't exactly sound right to me.

No other ram air system ever made has a big gap where air can escape like that . See what he says to that ........

RIF 11-07-2014 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4641676)
No other ram air system ever made has a big gap where air can escape like that . See what he says to that ........

I just took your advice and cut the VFAD. This looks RIGHT to me. The Ram air is now FLUSH against the opening and the cut VFAD is now flush into the Air Box. I was thinking I might weatherstrip the seal where the air box touches the opening.

Good Stuff, Brettus.

Brettus 11-07-2014 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by RIF (Post 4641681)
I just took your advice and cut the VFAD. This looks RIGHT to me. The Ram air is now FLUSH against the opening and the cut VFAD is now flush into the Air Box. I was thinking I might weatherstrip the seal where the air box touches the opening.

Good Stuff, Brettus.

The more airtight you can get it the better IMO

maguirre_94 04-02-2015 10:28 AM

so which gives the best gains???!

maguirre_94 04-02-2015 10:29 AM

so which one gives the best gains!?

TotalAutoPerformance 04-02-2015 10:53 AM

The way Mazda designed the stock intake has been hard to improve upon. Upgrading the drop in filter is really the cheapest and easiest way to go.

If you really want a Cold air system I would only suggest going with the AEM. It really is the only one to not show loss in power or show possible small gains.

lots of info on this is you search around the forum

Steve Dallas 04-02-2015 09:15 PM

The best you can hope for is 2 to 3 HP at 7500 RPM from either the AEM or the Racing Beat. Unless you are tracking your car and live up there in the high band, neither is really worth the money.

Sound is a different story. The AEM gives the car a cool throaty sound. The RB sounds good too, albeit quieter. If intake noise is worth the money to you, go for it. But, be aware that some AEM owners have had problems with water ingestion.

You can install a K&N panel filter for about 1 HP gain at high RPMs at the cost of substandard filtration if you like.

[All of the HP gains listed above are hard to prove since they are within the margin of error of the test dynos.]

All other aftermarket intakes will cause rough idle problems and/or loss of HP.

RIF 01-06-2016 07:12 PM

I am currently running the Racing Beat Duct with the Stock Airbox. I did some searching but could not find if anyone tried replacing the K&N Filter inside the RB Revi Intake with a AEM Dryflow filter. Has anyone had success with this?

I am getting very high Intake Temperatures and was thinking that they might be lower with the AEM/MS or full RB intake. However, I do not want a K&N filter which would reduce my options to Stock or AEM/MS.

Thank you.

rotaryduff 01-11-2016 09:48 PM

Just recently bought a AFE performance CAI kit. It was a simple bolt on application so far loving the induction sound of it.

RIF 04-10-2016 11:08 AM

AEM Intake
 
In response to my above complaint. The RB Air Damn had nothing to do with the heat issues I was/am experiencing. However, I ended up purchasing an AEM intake. My car has been tuned by MM and was pulling 228 maf/g in 2nd gear. With the AEM intake, I am pulling 254-260 maf/g in 2nd gear. The car does 'feel' more responsive and the sound is not any louder than the stock. (I have the Black Halo Midpipe and Mazdaspeed Exhaust)

9krpmrx8 04-10-2016 11:45 AM

You can't compare MAF flow untuned to MAF flow after being tuned.

RIF 04-10-2016 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4755108)
You can't compare MAF flow untuned to MAF flow after being tuned.

I should have been more clear. The car was tuned with the stock intake and RB Duct. It was tuned by MM and was pulling 228 maf/g. The ONLY thing I changed was the intake. Now it's pulling 254-260 in 2nd gear. (With AEM) Though I should mention, I did modify the intake to match Eric Meyer's suggestion. (Chopping off at the last elbow)

I was surprised by the results.

zoom44 05-18-2016 06:29 PM

my car has been acting up. i've gotten some low compression readings, some misfires and some o2 sensor codes and some no start when hot issues some loss of power on the highway and stalling issues yadda yadda.....


N E WAYYYYY


I realized i hadnt cleaned the air filter/box and MAF etc for awhile and figured i'd better get to it. so of course the intake tube has some oil in it, the maf is dirty, the filter IS FILTHY all as expected.


what i did not expect ( but due to some loud noise from the intake a time or two should have) was to hear a rattle from inside the REVI Filter when i pulled it out.

the intake bell on the inside of the filter was loose and flopping around in there. the clamp must have gotten loose enough for the thing to slip out . i imagine that can cause a few breathing problems at speed...

:wallbash::spank::pfanndina:slap:

Red line envy 05-18-2016 07:06 PM

So one question and it may be stupid but whatever right. Here goes. I have a gutted cat and a cold air intake. There was a cheap filter on it when i bought the car. Now i am wondering if its causing my slight roughness in idol. So i found a big ol k&n filter. Is bigger better?

Red line envy 05-18-2016 07:13 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...ea20efa753.png
Its the one on the far left. The big oval one

wannawankel 05-18-2016 08:23 PM

Good filtering is better. Not a big fan of K&N filters because when the oil is flooded with @$#@#$, the filter allows even more @#$@#$#@$ though to your engine. Too much open area of large size. Paper filters work great and replacing them is low cost. I've seen too many dual sport motorcycles (piston mind you) fail early due to shitty K&N fiulters allowing too much bypass of dirt. K&N claims more hp, so if you want 2 more hp but way more dirt so be it.

Steve Dallas 05-18-2016 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Red line envy (Post 4761801)
So one question and it may be stupid but whatever right. Here goes. I have a gutted cat and a cold air intake. There was a cheap filter on it when i bought the car. Now i am wondering if its causing my slight roughness in idol. So i found a big ol k&n filter. Is bigger better?

You are kind of stuck, because you already have a CAI. Adding a good filter can't hurt, assuming it is a decent CAI to begin with. (The only good CAIs for the 8 are made by AEM and Racing Beat). I am not a fan of any of the oiled filters. They may flow slightly more air, but they also flow more debris. And oil.

The thing is, the car came with a good CAI. When the car is moving, the air intake temps are within 2 degrees of ambient, according to my measurements. The reputable aftermarket CAIs claim HP increases of up to 3 HP at 7,500 RPM, which is within the margin of error of all dynos. You have to ask yourself if (maybe) up to 3 HP at an RPM at which you drive 0.5% of the time on the street is worth the trade-offs of an aftermarket system. It certainly is not to me, and I track my car about 15 times per year at an average RPM of 7,200.

Red line envy 05-18-2016 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Steve Dallas (Post 4761828)
You are kind of stuck, because you already have a CAI. Adding a good filter can't hurt, assuming it is a decent CAI to begin with. (The only good CAIs for the 8 are made by AEM and Racing Beat). I am not a fan of any of the oiled filters. They may flow slightly more air, but they also flow more debris. And oil.

The thing is, the car came with a good CAI. When the car is moving, the air intake temps are within 2 degrees of ambient, according to my measurements. The reputable aftermarket CAIs claim HP increases of up to 3 HP at 7,500 RPM, which is within the margin of error of all dynos. You have to ask yourself if (maybe) up to 3 HP at an RPM at which you drive 0.5% of the time on the street is worth the trade-offs of an aftermarket system. It certainly is not to me, and I track my car about 15 times per year at an average RPM of 7,200.

im just thinking cooler and more air flow with a bigger filter. I know it wont give more hp but imo its better for engine in general.

Gravey 05-19-2016 11:20 AM

What's actually better for the engine in general is not to have a filter that's not doing it's job properly. K&N's are known to not do a good filtration job on the RX-8.

RotaryMachineRx 05-19-2016 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Red line envy (Post 4761801)
So one question and it may be stupid but whatever right. Here goes. I have a gutted cat and a cold air intake. There was a cheap filter on it when i bought the car. Now i am wondering if its causing my slight roughness in idol. So i found a big ol k&n filter. Is bigger better?

Try cleaning your MAF first and see if that fixes it.

I get some rough idle for a couple seconds here an there quite often, even with a clean Maf. I'm obviously extensively modified but I think it is just the nature of the beast sometimes with this engine.

JimmyBlack 05-19-2016 06:23 PM

Your idle issue is probably due to the new CAI causing the intake air to flow with more turbulence over the MAF sensor.

Try one of these to smooth out your idle:
Honeycomb for MAF

Should be installed about 3-5in forward of the MAF sensor. You can use a mesh screen instead, but from my experience the honeycomb air straightener gives better results.

Red line envy 05-20-2016 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by JimmyBlack (Post 4761977)
Your idle issue is probably due to the new CAI causing the intake air to flow with more turbulence over the MAF sensor.

Try one of these to smooth out your idle:
Honeycomb for MAF

Should be installed about 3-5in forward of the MAF sensor. You can use a mesh screen instead, but from my experience the honeycomb air straightener gives better results.

The cai was on it when i bought the car. And the honecomb was there aswell. Im still stuck on the cheap filter that previous owner put on. Should i get the big k&n filter? Seems to be the best brand avail here

Gravey 05-20-2016 07:16 AM

I highly doubt you already have the honey comb,
https://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-615924...54_2266_346033

you probably just have the regular screen.
http://www.swankmonkey.com/mazda/rx8...f/IMGP1697.JPG

As for the filter if you can get an AEM dry flow filter that would be better

Red line envy 05-21-2016 02:27 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...d7f515970.jpeg

Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 4762224)
How about a photo of this "intake" so we can all see which version it is, and help you best?

And no i guess i dont have the honeycomb. Just the screen

TeamRX8 12-12-2022 03:05 PM

just a fair warning for Racing Beat REVi intake owners …

I bought an RX8 that suddenly lost an engine with the prior owner (only runs poorly on one rotor). It had some aftermarket parts on it, one of which was a Racing Beat REVi intake box assembly. Upon disassembling the intake and removing the filter; which the round filter itself inside the box is actually open on both ends, but Racing Beat supplies a metal cap and hose clamp to seal off the forward end toward the inlet opening, I found the metal cap lying in the bottom of the intake box and the hose clamp was not tight.

There’s not really any way to know for sure if this was the cause of the engine failing, but it didn’t help. The metal filter cap is showing scratch marks that suggest it had been sliding around in the intake box for a while and the filter interior was also quite dirty. Because without the filter end cap in place then unfiltered air along with rocks, sand, leaves, bugs, etc. is going straight through the forward open end of the filter and directly into the engine (see red arrow below pointing to the blue filter end cap).

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...d9c27016d.jpeg


So whether buying a brand new REVi intake from Racing Beat, disassembling it to clean the filter, etc. you *always* need to make sure the metal filter cap is securely help in place on the filter by fully tightening the hose clamp for it!
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