ricky356

I know that some of you have the sr motorsports cai unit but do any of you have the short ram one?? heres a link. if you do have it can you tell me what you have experienced. its at the bottom

http://www.srmotorsports.com/RX8_Per...ake_Parts.html

thanx

rick

swoope

iTrader: (5)

that is one of the last i would buy..

beers

chickenwafer

iTrader: (9)

I've heard the SR intake is no good

Cody Red

+1. I mean, yeah. I don't like SR. Gonna get rid of my Cat as soon as I gather some cash to get an RB cat. But if you want a good intake for a better price, go with Racing Beat.

-Cody

ricky356

im sacred of the racing beat lol. looks to stock. and i want something loud and short. maybe hks. i dont like all those bending pipes. unless you guys can attest its that much better il convert.

another question- i really want to turbo.....i have the funds but not that much knowledge. and i dont want to blow ne thing up. the ecu they send with the kit "ssr" and all the extras....will that stop me from doing that?

Mazda-Rati

If you're looking for something loud and short, go with the K&N typhoon ver.2. Yo0u can find them new for $250 shipped on ebay

rotarygod

All what bending pipes? From an actual design standpoint, they've put the most design study and effort into theirs. It's by far my favorite intake for the RX-8.

SOVINE

The simota intake is very loud. People say you lose horsepower whatever I can't tell the damn difference.

mysql101

There's no bending, and no pipes.

It does look stock though.

Getting a short intake will cost you - since they typically suck engine bay air instead of cold air from the front of the bumper.

N rider89

he has spoken

ricky356

i was speaking of cai's in general when i said pipes i know the racing beat is plastic or whatever "looks like plastic". i dont know it just seems like the engine has to go though alot to suck air from a longer tube...even if it is cold air. i guess i kind of relate it to drinking beer from a bottle. you can put the bottle directly into your mouth and chug or try to drink through a straw.....hmmm i did hear drinking beer through a straw will get you drunk quicker though. lol

this is my first car ive ever had that i was intrested in modifiying and i just dont want to make the wrong choices. heres a list of what i have so far maybe you guys could tell me a good match as far as a intake is concerned based on what i have purchased thus far.......

act hdg6 clutch kit
act xact prolite flywheel
unorthodox racing pulleys
battery volt stabalizer and ground kit....got this on ebay not sure if any good?
agency power exhaust w/test pipe
OBX header
street performance throttle body spacer
richard paul short shifter

think of this as a little experiment to see how much hp we can get out of a 8 with out forced induction. my 8 right now is bone stock with all these parts sitting in my garage. i want to put all the parts on at once so i dont have to be with out the car more than once also i was figurein i would get a brake on labor. so if theres something you think i need to make power.....lets start with the intake. im all ears. il take a dyno before and after all the parts are installed to see exactly how far the 8 can go before gettin blown

swoope

iTrader: (5)

take some time to read around...

you can look at my sig... the pro lite and the rp shifter are the only right choices you have made...

did you get the counter weight?

beers

ricky356

only if it came with it ....havent opened the box yet
i see you have the borla....ne thing wrong with agerncy power? i like it b cuz it came with the test pipe and the burnt tip look?

ive already looked around...that list is what i have compiled, if im missing something its because im unaware and dont know to begin with. my knowledge is limited to the few upgrades i know about.

N rider89

you really wont get all that far without F/I.

a good amount of that stuff will give you little gains if any

mysql101

He's talking about stuff like the header, throttle body spacer, voltage stabilizer, etc.

All your stuff likely added about 8 hp in the low gears, 3 in the upper.

Lookup what TeamRX8 has done with his car if you want to stay NA

ricky356

dont have plans to stay na. but i dont want to jump into a turbo and blow something up. the axial sc seems alot safer to me than going turbo....but well see when that gets here.

im just tryin to see how far i can go before fi. seems like itl be a while before afsc ne way.

i was particualry intrested if ne one has the obx headers. they look just like the autoexe and the feed headers. there made out of the same stuff....all are tungsten welded. i know OBX is not FEED. but when i bought em i figured.. hey they look alomst identical and there made of the same stuff, maybe one is just rediculously overpriced....feed back appreciated

thanx

rick

mysql101

The AFE SC looks very nice, but what makes you think it will be any safer than a turbo? Either way it ultimately amounts to increased pressure in the intake manifold, and fuel management tuning.

I really can't see why you'd think that.

ricky356

dont really know why i think that either. i guess becaue ive read a turbo runs hotter and all the people on here who got the greddy setup and had problems. dont know if im ready for all that. and the afsc seems like theres not all that much to it ....ie runs alot cooler so less chance to damage something.

mysql101

Anytime you compress air, it generates heat. The more you compress, the more heat you get. That's why we have the intercooler.

A turbo system is also less complicated than a supercharger system. Though it might take longer to setup initially.

ricky356

i thought the afsc stage 1 didnt come with a intercooler because there wasnt that much heat?

also i see all the turbos come with upgraded ecu's ...dont get me wrong i understand why, but would it be benifical to get say the interceptor instead of a performance chip even though i dont have a turbo yet? or are they apples and oranges?

mysql101

Why do you think that is?

ricky356

hold on mysql101 let me read over this again i think im missin somethin lol

ricky356

yeah you said why would i think the afsc is safer than a turbo

i said a turbo puts out more heat ...heat= damage ...at least over a period of time

either way, you sound like you lean towrds a turbo....maybe you can point me in the right direction. i like the sfr. do you think i would be ok with that?...my headers wouldnt work would they? i would have to use the kits...****!

mysql101

the turbo doesn't put out more heat.

the turbo is in the exhaust, so the turbo itself will be hot, but so is your exhaust and exhaust manifold.. the turbo is making use of the wasted heat and exhaust energy to spin a turbine, instead of taking the power directly off the engine like a supercharger does.

On the compressor side, heat is generated when you compress the air, but compressing air creates heat no matter how you compress it (turbo or supercharger). Hot air isn't really a problem for the engine (It's still far less heat than the fuel igniting!), but hot air can make it easier to cause detonation because it can ignite the fuel under pressure before it's supposed to (which is why you want to run higher octane fuel). The intercooler helps by allowing the air to cool off a bit.

I would recommend either the greddy turbo, or the mazsport turbo kits. Greddy is a good starter kit, mazsport is more complete.

rotarygod

Do not judge ANYTHING technical on a car by the way it looks!!! Air is funny stuff. It does not always do what you think it will and usually doesn't. The RB intake flows more air than the intake manifold does. That means there is no restriction through it. It doesn't know if it's sucking in air through a "longer tube" or from directly outside. I could put 12 of them together in series with each other and the engine wouldn't know the difference. A shorter intake does not flow any more air. What RB did do was to design the tuned length into their system. There is a bell shaped inlet inside the airbox. This is the end of the intake tube as the engine sees it. Once it hits that larger open area in the box, it may as well be a large room. The engine doesn't know. The length of the inlet pipe itself (from the box to the engine) is a critical tuned length and they have gone out of their way to make sure it is tuned properly according to what the engine and ecu want to see.

BTW: Do NOT use a throttlebody spacer! It alters the tuned length I just mentioned and doesn't do anything for power. It may on some plenum based intake systems (which the RX-8 does not have) as the spacer effectively adds plenum volume but on this car all you are doing is making your intake pipe longer. Since you are concerned with the engine having "to go though alot to suck air from a longer tube", why do you want to then go and make this tube longer? That's what it would be doing!