CanZoomer Stage 1 PCM Mod - Info/Questions/Results
12-10-2003, 02:06 AM
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At -47 I won't get started! I'd keep my wimpy *** inside with the heat on full. I also live in Houston. It was 70 today and will be in the 40's tonight. I hate it when it's cold here! 
12-10-2003, 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by renotse
Man, I can't wait to hear from the turbo econo-box crowd on this deveopment. Mr. WRX and all the other haters will really have a reason to hate the RX8.
Man, I can't wait to hear from the turbo econo-box crowd on this deveopment. Mr. WRX and all the other haters will really have a reason to hate the RX8.
For the rest of you, I'm happy to see some worthwhile mods coming out for the RX-8, or at least coming out in the near future
I hope everything goes smoothly and it ends up being a safe/reliable mod in the long run.Regards,
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12-10-2003, 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I'm happy to see some worthwhile mods coming out for the RX-8, or at least coming out in the near future I hope everything goes smoothly and it ends up being a safe/reliable mod in the long run.
Regards,
Ike
I'm happy to see some worthwhile mods coming out for the RX-8, or at least coming out in the near future
I hope everything goes smoothly and it ends up being a safe/reliable mod in the long run.Regards,
Ike
12-11-2003, 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
You don't have the slightest clue what ECU reflashes nor boost controlers do for WRXs and turbo cars in general do you? Also, most reflashes are undetectable by a dealer. Renotse you seem to be the one full of hate for other autos, not me.
For the rest of you, I'm happy to see some worthwhile mods coming out for the RX-8, or at least coming out in the near future I hope everything goes smoothly and it ends up being a safe/reliable mod in the long run.
Regards,
Ike
You don't have the slightest clue what ECU reflashes nor boost controlers do for WRXs and turbo cars in general do you? Also, most reflashes are undetectable by a dealer. Renotse you seem to be the one full of hate for other autos, not me.
For the rest of you, I'm happy to see some worthwhile mods coming out for the RX-8, or at least coming out in the near future
I hope everything goes smoothly and it ends up being a safe/reliable mod in the long run.Regards,
Ike
IkeWRX, I will not tolerate your flamboyant tone.
12-11-2003, 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by SA22C
Shoot, -18 aint nothing!
Shoot, -18 aint nothing!
Canada rocks. oh yes.
12-11-2003, 01:27 AM
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... -60* (easily) taking nearly 15 minutes to walk the half block and cross the street to get to the bus stop
... -60* (easily) taking nearly 15 minutes to walk the half block and cross the street to get to the bus stop
12-11-2003, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by canzoomer
Well, as far as wiring goes, i have some good news:
We have found a way to shrink things enough that we can now fit EVERYTHING inside the stock ECU box.
So now the only wire that needs to come out is a ground wire.
So no wiring to the dash is needed.
Well, as far as wiring goes, i have some good news:
We have found a way to shrink things enough that we can now fit EVERYTHING inside the stock ECU box.
So now the only wire that needs to come out is a ground wire.
So no wiring to the dash is needed.
Being an engineer, I'm very curious how you shrunk the mod. How do you wire the mod inside the ECU? Any before and after pictures or sketches? Just curious.........
12-11-2003, 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
You don't have the slightest clue what ECU reflashes nor boost controlers do for WRXs and turbo cars in general do you?
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Regards,
Ike
You don't have the slightest clue what ECU reflashes nor boost controlers do for WRXs and turbo cars in general do you?
....
Regards,
Ike
What was your point again? And how does it apply to Canzoomer's Mod?
Funny thing about me and tuning turbo cars in the past... especially the WRX
12-11-2003, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by syntrix
What was your point again? And how does it apply to Canzoomer's Mod?
Funny thing about me and tuning turbo cars in the past... especially the WRX
What was your point again? And how does it apply to Canzoomer's Mod?
Funny thing about me and tuning turbo cars in the past... especially the WRX
12-11-2003, 10:25 PM
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From FONZIE "Being an engineer, I'm very curious how you shrunk the mod. How do you wire the mod inside the ECU? Any before and after pictures or sketches? Just curious........"
Well, we'd have to make you disappear if we told you , but it just involved more experience in what was required to mount it, and what could be done to the existing stuff, to help it fit.
It still plugs in with a cable to the stock ECU. Only external wire, as Canzoomer stated, is a ground (no ground connection point in stock ECU housing). No wires to cut, no holes to drill.
Well, we'd have to make you disappear if we told you
, but it just involved more experience in what was required to mount it, and what could be done to the existing stuff, to help it fit.It still plugs in with a cable to the stock ECU. Only external wire, as Canzoomer stated, is a ground (no ground connection point in stock ECU housing). No wires to cut, no holes to drill.
12-11-2003, 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by canzoomer
That would be nice if:
1) You had a fuel/air sensr bung in your exhaust.
2) You had a 5 wire broadband sensor in that bung.
3) You had the same device as we use to read it and to log it to a computer.
4) You had a notebook PC in your car hooked to it to log it.
5) You had 2 pyrometers in your exhaust, to meter temperatures.
6) You had our tuning software on thecomputer, and the hookup to the control box to monitor it and adjust if needed and to re-program it.
7) You could talk to me on the phone for a couple of hours while we do the test runs, so i can instruct you on doing the test cycle.
And so on..
But thanks , I know the offer is sincere. Just not too feasible.
That would be nice if:
1) You had a fuel/air sensr bung in your exhaust.
2) You had a 5 wire broadband sensor in that bung.
3) You had the same device as we use to read it and to log it to a computer.
4) You had a notebook PC in your car hooked to it to log it.
5) You had 2 pyrometers in your exhaust, to meter temperatures.
6) You had our tuning software on thecomputer, and the hookup to the control box to monitor it and adjust if needed and to re-program it.
7) You could talk to me on the phone for a couple of hours while we do the test runs, so i can instruct you on doing the test cycle.
And so on..
But thanks , I know the offer is sincere. Just not too feasible.
And I do have a laptop with a few obdii softwares, but they don't work with the can bus.
12-12-2003, 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by FONZIE
Being an engineer, I'm very curious how you shrunk the mod. How do you wire the mod inside the ECU? Any before and after pictures or sketches? Just curious.........
Being an engineer, I'm very curious how you shrunk the mod. How do you wire the mod inside the ECU? Any before and after pictures or sketches? Just curious.........
I made a smaller box to hold the board, and fit the adaptor plug inside this box.
That made it small enough to go on top of the ECU, inside the plastic box that contains/protects the ECU unit.
We are not putting it inside the metal cnister that holds the ECU board. We are putting it in the plastic weatherproof box that holds the ECU canister.
12-12-2003, 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by syntrix
I have a different wideband sensor, and only just 1 EGT. Other than that, you should hook me up with a test or early unit, and I can report some results And I do have a laptop with a few obdii softwares, but they don't work with the can bus.
I have a different wideband sensor, and only just 1 EGT. Other than that, you should hook me up with a test or early unit, and I can report some results
And I do have a laptop with a few obdii softwares, but they don't work with the can bus.
Now that I have finished doing the "shrink" of the design, it will now be a lot easier to build, and we should be pumping out units a lot faster.
12-12-2003, 09:59 AM
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Reading thread....very interested
....now I'll be updated to what's happening on this very interesting thread....that I just discovered today. (by placing my own post).
This modification sounds great...I wonder what it will do for top speed also.
This modification sounds great...I wonder what it will do for top speed also.
12-12-2003, 10:05 AM
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Any concerns with this piggyback unit regarding longevity or running too lean? Any other downsides?
How easy would it be to remove? And would the dealers have any idea it was once installed after it was taken out?
I wouldn't want to void warranty claims because the device was once installed and they had a way to find out...
It certainly sounds interesting... but I'm always somewhat leery when 3rd parties start thinking they can do it better than the factory.
I'm not saying it can't be done... but I'm just a born skeptic I guess...
Thanks for putting up with the questions...
How easy would it be to remove? And would the dealers have any idea it was once installed after it was taken out?
I wouldn't want to void warranty claims because the device was once installed and they had a way to find out...
It certainly sounds interesting... but I'm always somewhat leery when 3rd parties start thinking they can do it better than the factory.
I'm not saying it can't be done... but I'm just a born skeptic I guess...
Thanks for putting up with the questions...
12-12-2003, 10:13 AM
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Check this thread for more info guys: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=14823
12-12-2003, 09:36 PM
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HAPPY-HAPPY-JOY-JOY!
I am happy - my two weeks with "the mod" installed, have been the icing on my RX-8 cake!
(It may take plastic surgery to get this stupid grin off my face!)
Well, obviously, driving 'the most powerful Renesis in North America' will do that to a guy!
Thanks again 'Zoomer!
He is, how can I put this diplomatically, "a bit of a perfectionist....."
As late as last night, we were out doing more full throttle runs with yet another black box, with an even more refined version of his tuning parameters. It seemed to go well, though I didn't see much, my job was to plant the throttle and hang on!
He has already been through the process with his own '8, on the street and the dyno, and was just making sure the same box would give repeatable results on a cat-back car.
But I think, finally, Maurice is happy! The computers, sensors, readouts and their power supplies are out of my passenger seat, and all the data are now safely in his laptop. I am told that dyno plots of the finished project will be posted soon, I'm guessing next week.
S
(It may take plastic surgery to get this stupid grin off my face!)
Well, obviously, driving 'the most powerful Renesis in North America' will do that to a guy!
Thanks again 'Zoomer!
He is, how can I put this diplomatically, "a bit of a perfectionist....."
As late as last night, we were out doing more full throttle runs with yet another black box, with an even more refined version of his tuning parameters. It seemed to go well, though I didn't see much, my job was to plant the throttle and hang on!
He has already been through the process with his own '8, on the street and the dyno, and was just making sure the same box would give repeatable results on a cat-back car.
But I think, finally, Maurice is happy! The computers, sensors, readouts and their power supplies are out of my passenger seat, and all the data are now safely in his laptop. I am told that dyno plots of the finished project will be posted soon, I'm guessing next week.
S
12-12-2003, 10:45 PM
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Maurice
At last
My only concern is that i already have such a big grin on my face even driving my car stock standard , i may not be able to fit in the rx8 because of the size of my grin once the canzoomer especiall is fitted to my car . ha ha ha
Maurice i am exxxxcited ., excited ,excited , and still waiting.
The next couple of weeks are going to be hard , heck waiting for father maurices stage 1 kit to come by raindeer from canada ., and fitted into my birthday, christmas gift.( my LIGHTINING YELLOW RX8) Come on santa come on - come on .
michael
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At last
My only concern is that i already have such a big grin on my face even driving my car stock standard , i may not be able to fit in the rx8 because of the size of my grin once the canzoomer especiall is fitted to my car . ha ha ha
Maurice i am exxxxcited ., excited ,excited , and still waiting.
The next couple of weeks are going to be hard , heck waiting for father maurices stage 1 kit to come by raindeer from canada ., and fitted into my birthday, christmas gift.( my LIGHTINING YELLOW RX8) Come on santa come on - come on .
michael
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12-12-2003, 11:32 PM
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If I hadent just gone to the bathroom before reading this, I woulda peed my pants form the excitement. :D
And I still have at least a month to wait! You guys that get the unit first? Dont post anything at all until I get mine. This way I wont be forced to hunt you down, kidnap your pet turle and use it to blackmail you into giving me the unit (or the turtle turns into soup!)
And I still have at least a month to wait! You guys that get the unit first? Dont post anything at all until I get mine. This way I wont be forced to hunt you down, kidnap your pet turle and use it to blackmail you into giving me the unit (or the turtle turns into soup!)
12-13-2003, 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by Genom
If I hadent just gone to the bathroom before reading this, I woulda peed my pants form the excitement. :D
And I still have at least a month to wait! You guys that get the unit first? Dont post anything at all until I get mine. This way I wont be forced to hunt you down, kidnap your pet turle and use it to blackmail you into giving me the unit (or the turtle turns into soup!)
If I hadent just gone to the bathroom before reading this, I woulda peed my pants form the excitement. :D
And I still have at least a month to wait! You guys that get the unit first? Dont post anything at all until I get mine. This way I wont be forced to hunt you down, kidnap your pet turle and use it to blackmail you into giving me the unit (or the turtle turns into soup!)
Them theres language from a desperate man , a ninja turtle rx8 with the moods wow.
Carefull as this forum is open the boys in black may see you as a potentiall terrorist , hey if you are prepared to kidnap turtles , what other fiendish acts are you capable of
carriyng out???
michael