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Puppy1 09-10-2003 09:29 PM

No Dyno...No Dynero ;)

RXhusker 09-11-2003 09:14 AM

Saw an ad for the RX-8 Borla exhaust system from Gulf Coast Customs (on Ebay) ($599 + free shipping) and they are claiming a gain of 8 HP and 12 lb/ft. Also looked at the 350Z Borla system and they claimed a gain of 10 HP and 14 lb/ft. ($721)

david borla 09-11-2003 12:38 PM

Borla Cat-back Dyno Results
 
Here are the HP gains. As you can see, they're as high as 15 over stock. Max power gain is about 8. We call it a 10hp gain to the wheels.

david borla 09-11-2003 12:39 PM

Torque

mikeb 09-11-2003 12:43 PM

thank you

mikeb 09-11-2003 12:47 PM

dynos were posted today

donald121 09-11-2003 12:54 PM


Originally posted by mikeb
dynos were posted today
Where is it?

Oops, found it, thank you.

Tigster 09-11-2003 01:19 PM

I have the dyno results, however I just bought a new house and havent unpacked the computer yet. If someone e-mails me I can forward the dynos so they can post them.

In the mean time the results are as follows

Max power:

Dyno run .001: 172.6

Dynorun .004: 180.1


Max Torque:

Dyno run .001: 136.1

Dyno run .004: 137.9

hope this helps.

donald121 09-11-2003 01:34 PM

Mr Borla,

May be I ask for too much, but could you record the muffler sound in some kind of audio file? It would be nice if we can hear how it sounds like, thank you. :D Please.

Speed Racer 09-11-2003 01:46 PM

Horsepower

Speed Racer 09-11-2003 01:47 PM

Torque

Speed Racer 09-11-2003 02:45 PM

It looks like it is only making performance gains in the upper 1/3 of the RPM range. That's fine by me because it is a first step to getting rid of the limp feeling top end. Hopefully I'll receive mine before I head to Watkins Glen (9/22 and 9/23)for a little track time. :cool:

rotary_it_up 09-11-2003 02:55 PM

Do you take Debit Cards?? :)

Doctorr 09-11-2003 04:12 PM

Seeing is believing....
 
I have always been a fan of Mr. B's work.....

The system is on its way to sunny northern Canada at this moment.

Can't wait to put the 'tones' back in the exhaust ...and eight horsepower is just more icing on the cake!
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MrWigggles 09-11-2003 06:15 PM


Originally posted by rotary_it_up
Do you take Debit Cards?? :)
How true.

-Mr. Wigggles

mikeb 09-11-2003 07:35 PM

I'm sure they take debit cards

Peter Sawko 09-17-2003 11:59 AM

loud?
 
Does anyone have experience with this mod.?

How many decibels does it add?

mikeb 09-17-2003 12:20 PM

I've asked to hear a borla sound clip but havent heard one yet

MrWigggles 09-17-2003 01:04 PM

The good thing about Borla and Greddy is that they are almost always quiet exhaust mods. Each company tries (to my knowledge) keep their products under the 95dBA limit that some states like California are impossing.

For either company, I feel comfortable buying their exhaust without having to hear it first.

My two cents,

-Mr. Wigggles

Blue 350z 09-18-2003 11:04 AM

No HP gains until after 6k rpms and basically torque loss up until 6k rpms and only a small gain.

Not sure how there can be a lower torque at low RPMs, thats when you need the torque, this may actually make the car feel slower unless you rev to over 6k rpms regularly

MrWigggles 09-18-2003 12:20 PM


Originally posted by Blue 350z
No HP gains until after 6k rpms and basically torque loss up until 6k rpms and only a small gain.

Not sure how there can be a lower torque at low RPMs, thats when you need the torque, this may actually make the car feel slower unless you rev to over 6k rpms regularly

I see zero torque loss anywhere in the graph. At low RPMs, the lines are on top of each other.

BTW, there will be a slight variation from run to run anyway.

-Mr. Wigggles

Peter Sawko 09-18-2003 12:46 PM

Is one test adequate to demonstrate the effectiveness of the exhaust? Torque does look close but I'd still say it's lower at the start.

Horsepower doesn't improve until the high end when the secondary ports open.

Why isn't the improvement proportionate through the entire graph?:(

Speed Racer 09-18-2003 12:52 PM

I'd take an educated guess and say that the stock exhaust provides an adequate amount of air flow for the lower RPMs but once the RPMs and air flow increases the limitations of the stock exhaust become more apparent. If that is the case I would only expect to see gains in the higher RPMs.

Blue 350z 09-18-2003 12:54 PM


Originally posted by MrWigggles


I see zero torque loss anywhere in the graph. At low RPMs, the lines are on top of each other.

BTW, there will be a slight variation from run to run anyway.

-Mr. Wigggles

Your looking at the HP graph, look again.

RotorGeek 09-18-2003 01:02 PM

The torque is slightly unber with the borla up until 3800rpm.

No large amount just slightly. I am waiting for a full exhaust system, but the borla would be nice if the full system is too expensive


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