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tpryor 09-06-2003 11:52 AM

Borla Exhaust Available NOW!
 
DISCLAIMER - I am in NO WAY affiliated with any retailers or sellers of this product!

Just wanted to let you all know (we say "y'all" in Texas) - I just placed an on-line order for the Borla T-304 SS cat-back exhaust system from their on-line store.

Part Number, for those interested, would be 140078.

Do a search on "Auto", then pick the car model, type, etc. You'll find it.

Can not quote prices, etc. to prevent deletion of this thread, but it is reasonable.

Pics when installed - they say 2-4 weeks UNLESS BACKORDERED - we'll see.

Magic8 09-06-2003 12:24 PM

Re: Borla Exhaust Available NOW!
 

Originally posted by tpryor
Just wanted to let you all know (we say "y'all" in Texas)
Being while since grammar lessons but isn't you both a singular and plural pronoun. Never understood the need to add an "all" to designate plural.


Anyways, love to see pics and before/after dyno results.


Magic8

tpryor 09-06-2003 12:39 PM

Re: Re: Borla Exhaust Available NOW!
 

Originally posted by Magic8


Being while since grammar lessons but isn't you both a singular and plural pronoun. Never understood the need to add an "all" to designate plural.

Anyways, love to see pics and before/after dyno results.

Magic8

You are correct, sir (see, I CAN do it). It (apparently) was a vain attempt at levity...................

Anyway, as I said, I will provide all info when available.

eccles 09-06-2003 03:03 PM

Re: Re: Borla Exhaust Available NOW!
 

Originally posted by Magic8
Being while since grammar lessons but isn't you both a singular and plural pronoun. Never understood the need to add an "all" to designate plural.
What Tim neglected to point out is that "y'all" is singular! The plural is "all y'all" - ask any Texan. :)

Edit: fixed a typo.

IWANTMYRX8 09-06-2003 03:26 PM

Dang...I moved to Texas 4 1/2 years ago and I learn something new everyday...lol

r0tor 09-06-2003 03:44 PM

looks yummy :p

BaronVonBigmeat 09-06-2003 08:21 PM

Cool...let us know how it sounds, the stock exhaust is way too quiet. Then again I don't want the "angry-bumblebee-Civic" sound, esp. not for the money they're charging hehe.

Better yet, do you ever get out to Stafford or the 610/290 area? :)

OrangeBingo 09-06-2003 08:32 PM


Originally posted by BaronVonBigmeat
Cool...let us know how it sounds, the stock exhaust is way too quiet. Then again I don't want the "angry-bumblebee-Civic" sound, esp. not for the money they're charging hehe.


Being the owner of 2 Borla systems (one on an '89 V6 SHO, the other on a '01 Audi S4) I can tell you that the sound is deep and full (SHO V6 sounds like a Porsche flat 6) but does not drone at highway speeds. During normal driving it is quite unobtrusive but if you dip into the power you will attract some attention (though in the SHO the attention is rarely paid to the right car as no one expects a grey Taurus to be making such sounds). I have never heard a Borla sound "buzzy."

tpryor 09-07-2003 08:36 AM


Originally posted by BaronVonBigmeat
Cool...let us know how it sounds, the stock exhaust is way too quiet. Then again I don't want the "angry-bumblebee-Civic" sound, esp. not for the money they're charging hehe.

Better yet, do you ever get out to Stafford or the 610/290 area? :)

I am not in Stafford very often, but I go through the intersection of 610 and 290 every day on the way to work (around 5:15am) and on the weekends.

I live out 290 - at Jones Road. I'll let everyone know when it's installed (the DAY it arrives). It would be GREAT if it could be here before the meet on the 21st.

The Borla exhaust(s) I have heard, mostly on Miata's, has always sounded great. I just couldn't go with the "pimp" tip (a little carbon fiber looking band around the tip). The RX-8 one looks much better.

Tigster 09-07-2003 09:36 PM

here's a photo of an 8 with the borla

http://www.borla.com/graphics/140078vs.jpg

Bengal Tiger 09-07-2003 10:22 PM

It's insanely dissappointing that the exhaust is about to go into prodution...yet there are no dynos of the power gains....or losses :) ....:mad:

david borla 09-08-2003 12:42 PM


Originally posted by Bengal Tiger
It's insanely dissappointing that the exhaust is about to go into prodution...yet there are no dynos of the power gains....or losses :) ....:mad:
Actually, there are dyno test results. Email me and I'll send you the information you requested. davidb@borla.com

Thanks.

brownchiro 09-08-2003 04:33 PM

Will this exhaust void the warranty?

VividRacing.com 09-08-2003 04:38 PM

Borla Exhausts
 
Just wanted to let everyone know we've got the exhausts availabel for sale if your interested...(delivery time about two weeks from today)

http://www.rx8forum.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=59

david borla 09-08-2003 04:52 PM


Originally posted by brownchiro
Will this exhaust void the warranty?

Absolutely not.

pmacwill 09-08-2003 05:09 PM


Originally posted by david borla


Actually, there are dyno test results. Email me and I'll send you the information you requested. davidb@borla.com

Thanks.

um, can't you just post it here so we can all see? otherwise I can email you, and then I'll post it :p

tribal azn2 09-08-2003 05:57 PM

pust the dyno!!!

Rotar_Dude 09-09-2003 05:54 PM

will this work on automatic version also.

mikeb 09-09-2003 06:36 PM

yes

Bengal Tiger 09-09-2003 07:05 PM

I emailed u Mr.Borla! I got no response...anyway, maybe u get lots and lots and lots of emails...so i'll be patient.

Doctorr 09-10-2003 12:49 AM

Need a Borla....
 
Always respected Mr. Borla's work......

Emailed yesterday......

Cash in hand.......

Waiting for Dynos......

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RotorGeek 09-10-2003 09:53 AM

Guys check out the vividracing section on the forum. They have good prices

tribal azn2 09-10-2003 04:36 PM

still no dyno!!!!

tpryor 09-10-2003 05:04 PM


Originally posted by tribal azn2
still no dyno!!!!
How long can it take?

More to the point, HE made the offer. I actually have given him my money (Borla has always made great products, and I trust this will be another one), but I would like to know......

mikeb 09-10-2003 07:01 PM

vivid racing says they give 10hp and will post dyno when possiable

Puppy1 09-10-2003 09:29 PM

No Dyno...No Dynero ;)

RXhusker 09-11-2003 09:14 AM

Saw an ad for the RX-8 Borla exhaust system from Gulf Coast Customs (on Ebay) ($599 + free shipping) and they are claiming a gain of 8 HP and 12 lb/ft. Also looked at the 350Z Borla system and they claimed a gain of 10 HP and 14 lb/ft. ($721)

david borla 09-11-2003 12:38 PM

Borla Cat-back Dyno Results
 
Here are the HP gains. As you can see, they're as high as 15 over stock. Max power gain is about 8. We call it a 10hp gain to the wheels.

david borla 09-11-2003 12:39 PM

Torque

mikeb 09-11-2003 12:43 PM

thank you

mikeb 09-11-2003 12:47 PM

dynos were posted today

donald121 09-11-2003 12:54 PM


Originally posted by mikeb
dynos were posted today
Where is it?

Oops, found it, thank you.

Tigster 09-11-2003 01:19 PM

I have the dyno results, however I just bought a new house and havent unpacked the computer yet. If someone e-mails me I can forward the dynos so they can post them.

In the mean time the results are as follows

Max power:

Dyno run .001: 172.6

Dynorun .004: 180.1


Max Torque:

Dyno run .001: 136.1

Dyno run .004: 137.9

hope this helps.

donald121 09-11-2003 01:34 PM

Mr Borla,

May be I ask for too much, but could you record the muffler sound in some kind of audio file? It would be nice if we can hear how it sounds like, thank you. :D Please.

Speed Racer 09-11-2003 01:46 PM

Horsepower

Speed Racer 09-11-2003 01:47 PM

Torque

Speed Racer 09-11-2003 02:45 PM

It looks like it is only making performance gains in the upper 1/3 of the RPM range. That's fine by me because it is a first step to getting rid of the limp feeling top end. Hopefully I'll receive mine before I head to Watkins Glen (9/22 and 9/23)for a little track time. :cool:

rotary_it_up 09-11-2003 02:55 PM

Do you take Debit Cards?? :)

Doctorr 09-11-2003 04:12 PM

Seeing is believing....
 
I have always been a fan of Mr. B's work.....

The system is on its way to sunny northern Canada at this moment.

Can't wait to put the 'tones' back in the exhaust ...and eight horsepower is just more icing on the cake!
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MrWigggles 09-11-2003 06:15 PM


Originally posted by rotary_it_up
Do you take Debit Cards?? :)
How true.

-Mr. Wigggles

mikeb 09-11-2003 07:35 PM

I'm sure they take debit cards

Peter Sawko 09-17-2003 11:59 AM

loud?
 
Does anyone have experience with this mod.?

How many decibels does it add?

mikeb 09-17-2003 12:20 PM

I've asked to hear a borla sound clip but havent heard one yet

MrWigggles 09-17-2003 01:04 PM

The good thing about Borla and Greddy is that they are almost always quiet exhaust mods. Each company tries (to my knowledge) keep their products under the 95dBA limit that some states like California are impossing.

For either company, I feel comfortable buying their exhaust without having to hear it first.

My two cents,

-Mr. Wigggles

Blue 350z 09-18-2003 11:04 AM

No HP gains until after 6k rpms and basically torque loss up until 6k rpms and only a small gain.

Not sure how there can be a lower torque at low RPMs, thats when you need the torque, this may actually make the car feel slower unless you rev to over 6k rpms regularly

MrWigggles 09-18-2003 12:20 PM


Originally posted by Blue 350z
No HP gains until after 6k rpms and basically torque loss up until 6k rpms and only a small gain.

Not sure how there can be a lower torque at low RPMs, thats when you need the torque, this may actually make the car feel slower unless you rev to over 6k rpms regularly

I see zero torque loss anywhere in the graph. At low RPMs, the lines are on top of each other.

BTW, there will be a slight variation from run to run anyway.

-Mr. Wigggles

Peter Sawko 09-18-2003 12:46 PM

Is one test adequate to demonstrate the effectiveness of the exhaust? Torque does look close but I'd still say it's lower at the start.

Horsepower doesn't improve until the high end when the secondary ports open.

Why isn't the improvement proportionate through the entire graph?:(

Speed Racer 09-18-2003 12:52 PM

I'd take an educated guess and say that the stock exhaust provides an adequate amount of air flow for the lower RPMs but once the RPMs and air flow increases the limitations of the stock exhaust become more apparent. If that is the case I would only expect to see gains in the higher RPMs.

Blue 350z 09-18-2003 12:54 PM


Originally posted by MrWigggles


I see zero torque loss anywhere in the graph. At low RPMs, the lines are on top of each other.

BTW, there will be a slight variation from run to run anyway.

-Mr. Wigggles

Your looking at the HP graph, look again.

RotorGeek 09-18-2003 01:02 PM

The torque is slightly unber with the borla up until 3800rpm.

No large amount just slightly. I am waiting for a full exhaust system, but the borla would be nice if the full system is too expensive


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