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Old May 26, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
The design is such as to use the stock gaskets. Which are included with the pipe.
... I think I just filled the cup. You guys SERIOUSLY need to stop making everything so easy and plug and play. I may just get too lazy to do ANY work to my car anymore. lol
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Old May 26, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
It will be under $1000.00
I understand that it will be competitive.

Originally Posted by Easy_E1
The design is such as to use the stock gaskets. Which are included with the pipe.
If all goes well we'll bring it to Vegas and install it for you. And Phil of course. And anybody else on the list up there.
Sounds good to me. You'll be very busy.

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Old May 26, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Wait... is the price international? As an example, if it's 300$ in the US, will it be 300$ Canadian? Or will it be american and then we have to pay the price difference?
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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by shazy
Wait... is the price international? As an example, if it's 300$ in the US, will it be 300$ Canadian? Or will it be american and then we have to pay the price difference?
Shazy my friend,,

The Price will be in US Dollars. It will be up to you to convert your currency to the equal US Dollar amount.

Lets just say at today's exchange rate with Canada, $500 US = $560.17 Canadian Dollars.
If you gave me just $500 Canadian, I would only get $446.00 US.
That's not fair is it?


You wouldn't want BHR to loose money with sales to our International customers? It would put us out of business.
If that were the case we wouldn't sell outside the US.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Any chance we can still be added to "The List?"
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Old May 26, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Krazed_Rx8
Any chance we can still be added to "The List?"
Just send a PM to Charles R Hill. He'll put you on the list.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:25 AM
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I think I'm on the list but didn't send a pm to anyone.

Can you confirm please that I'm on the list?

I need this thing with some urgency (my 6 month period for the AP is about to expire, would like to send at least one set of logs without cat).

Looks like you are doing a great job, congrats!
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Old May 27, 2009 | 03:30 AM
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Waiting for official price before I get on that waiting list .
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Old May 27, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jackalpupz
Waiting for official price before I get on that waiting list .
The question is, can you put a price on perfection?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Flashwing
The question is, can you put a price on perfection?
Hopefully the answer is yes, and hopefully we'll know how much perfection costs soon.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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The song and dance are over - lets see some metal!

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Old May 27, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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Is a tune recommended when switching to your midpipe? Or is it perfectly safe with no tune?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Hey Ray, you still going to make a new thread once you release the midpipe?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jackalpupz
Is a tune recommended when switching to your midpipe? Or is it perfectly safe with no tune?
What are you currently using for a mid pipe? Do you have an Accessport?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
What are you currently using for a mid pipe? Do you have an Accessport?
Sorry, I have the same question as him... I have an AP with cat.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PeriQ
Sorry, I have the same question as him... I have an AP with cat.
Just like any other midpipe with out a Catalytic Converter. The car will run normally. Nothing tuning wise is needed.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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I ran with a mid-pipe for over 2 years on the stock tune. No problems. The mid-pipe allows for you to take advantage of a few features you cannot do as easily with the stock or high flow cat.

1. You can run leaner air/fuel ratios as N/A since you no longer have to worry about the rotary's excessive EGT's burning up your cat.
2. You can pre-mix without having to worry about oil clogging your cat.
3. You can safely run increased amounts of OMP without any risk of clogging your cat.

Plus, our midpipe doesn't contain any typical silencer packing which, with high EGT's, will blow out within several thouands miles causing a serious change in the sound of the pipe.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Thank you. My question was more related with performance gains than possible problems. So, rewriting jackalpupz's question, would there be any benefit adjusting the AP calibration after the midpipe is installed? Is there anymore left to scratch (hp, mpg, ..) after getting rid of the cat?

I'm assuming there is, based on "popular knowledge"..

Thank you again.

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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't removal of the CAT illegal? Or wouldn't it not pass inspection or let alone void the warranty for those who still have one?

It's like this for my truck whereas if you're not really allowed to remove the CAT for those reasons. However we just chisel the **** out of the inside of it and get some HP from it yet they can't say we're not running one.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Removal of the cat is against Federal law. It isn't usually enforced by local law enforcement. State and local laws would however. I believe you live in the NE US. Don't some of those states have California like emissions regs.? In that case, you would definitely have problems running w/o a cat (including a punched out cat). In most other metro areas, you have to submit to a scheduled emissions test that presently is just a ODB check for a engine error code. Certain pcm programmers can mask a bad cat code so you can pass this test.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PeriQ
Thank you. My question was more related with performance gains than possible problems. So, rewriting jackalpupz's question, would there be any benefit adjusting the AP calibration after the midpipe is installed? Is there anymore left to scratch (hp, mpg, ..) after getting rid of the cat?

I'm assuming there is, based on "popular knowledge"..

Thank you again.
Yes, as stated previously you can run leaner air/fuel mixtures with a catless midpipe which can yield more power. I imagine also that a reduction in exhaust restriction will also yield some minor gains.

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Removal of the cat is against Federal law. It isn't usually enforced by local law enforcement. State and local laws would however. I believe you live in the NE US. Don't some of those states have California like emissions regs.? In that case, you would definitely have problems running w/o a cat (including a punched out cat). In most other metro areas, you have to submit to a scheduled emissions test that presently is just a ODB check for a engine error code. Certain pcm programmers can mask a bad cat code so you can pass this test.
Correct. It depends on first if you have to subject your car to emissions checks and if so, you probably stand a good chance of passing. Most states only require an OBD code check as al stated. As long as you're not hooked up to a sniffer you'll pass with the COBB accessPORT which can mask all the emissions cels.

We had a local turbo RX8 owner already pass AZ emissions with the cobb. Most of the time as long as inspectors see a buldge in the pipe they think it's a cat. Half the time they have no idea what they are looking for other than making sure you have exhaust and don't have an exhaust dump.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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That's pretty much what we do. Get rid of the inner material gutting it out, and move the sensor to get around it being picked up. And yes, CT/NY area so yea, that speaks for itself.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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when will the BHR midpipe going to be available for perches?

i've been in the market for a midpipe and really liked the sound of your protetype. did some looking around but nothing comes close to BHR MP. but also liked RB MP but will wait for BHR.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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J03: you'll get to hear this when we're in Vegas.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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