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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rex8
You have no idea what you are talking about. Everything in your post is false.
i dont know about being false he's just trying to watch out for himself just like the stuff you say about mazsport coils. i can tell you that you have no idea what your talking bout. and everything in your post is false.

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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
i dont know about being false he's just trying to watch out for himself just like the stuff you say about mazsport coils.
There's a couple elements within that post which I think are just simple misunderstandings about parts and what's better/worse for your car.

As Erick pointed out, the Yukon coil is based off of the LS2 coil with a few modifications which make them a better choice of the two. In a pinch, the LS2 coils will work fine. We know this because much of the initial testing was done with the LS2.

Either way, BHR customers have nothing to worry about in terms of product replacement. The ignition upgrade was designed with quality in mind so replacement parts are not necessary.

I think often people misunderstand the notion of OEM vs. aftermarket, street vs. race. Just because a product is "stock" doesn't mean an aftermarket part is better and just cause something says "race" on it doesn't mean it's best for street driven applications.

While MSD supplies a lot of racing ignition parts for various different makes and models, MSD stuff is more of a race track application than street. This means MSD makes a part that's designed to perform at high levels for a period of time BUT overall life isn't an issue.

Why? Cause race cars are rebuilt all the time...as frequent as after every single race. Coils, spark plugs etc. are items which are replaced constantly. With a street driven car you need something that lasts, that operates in nearly every environmental condition, and gives you performance the whole time.

Same goes for aftermarket vs. OEM. You'll find in many cases OEM equipment is made by the same people who make your aftermarket parts. The RX8's clutch is manufactured by Exedy, the suspension made by bilstein etc.

Any claims BHR makes about our products or the products of other manufacturers/vendors are done so based on facts, not fanboy rhetoric. If your vendor cannot provide facts about their products or explain why they endorse or don't endorce any particular product then you shouldn't be doing business with them.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
i dont know about being false he's just trying to watch out for himself just like the stuff you say about mazsport coils. i can tell you that you have no idea what your talking bout. and everything in your post is false.
Read Ray's post. I couldn't care less what you think.

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 05rex8
Read Ray's post. Couldn't care less what you think.
well if he doesnt care about what a customer thinks, then that will be concidered as bad business practices.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
well if he doesnt care about what a customer thinks, then that will be concidered as bad business practices.
That's not what I meant.

I meant that I couldn't care less what you think I know or not.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
well if he doesnt care about what a customer thinks, then that will be concidered as bad business practices.
No, 05 meant he couldn't care less. Not that I couldn't.
This thread has spun way out of control.

Lemme wrap it up by summarizing;

We at BHR, especially ME, care very much about our customers' happiness and success during the use of ANY parts we sell them or advice we give. So much so that I have taken every penny I have and devoted it to starting BHR and going full-time with it. For me, this is not a hobby as my family's next meal is dependent on my ability to earn a living doing this. Failure is not an option for me so I am careful about what I sell and the information I give.

The one thing I hope differentiates BHR from every other vendor on this forum is the brazen honesty we have regarding what works and does not work for the RX-8 and why that might be. Simply pushing parts into peoples' hands and walking away has never been my objective. Ask anybody who has sought my advice how much more informed they have come away after a few PMs.

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
well if he doesnt care about what a customer thinks, then that will be concidered as bad business practices.
Why don't you STFU and do a little reading instead of posting out of your GD ****!!!

If you understood anything about Ray you would know how he deals with his customers and his history with this community.

If you understood anything about the coils themselves you would understand why they are a great selection.

And if you knew anything about the automotive business at all you would know how suppliers work in the modern world and that in fact it's possible for people to make parts for cars that are no longer made by the company that originally produced them.

Christ in a hatbox you suck.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
well if he doesnt care about what a customer thinks, then that will be concidered as bad business practices.
Yes please - in support of what CRH just wrote above me - understand that I am the one that doesn't care what the customer thinks.
Abuse of the customer is MY department, so please feel free to come to me when you want a good brow-beating.

CRH, Easy and Flashwing are in control of the flow of the product and the relationship with the suppliers and the customers.

My job is to try my best to make stupid a painful condition.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Ask anybody who has sought my advice how much more informed they have come away after a few PMs.
I've spoken to Mike via PM's and hopefully I've addressed his questions regarding the various kits.

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac

My job is to try my best to make stupid a painful condition.
Is that why it hurts when I sit?
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Why don't you STFU and do a little reading instead of posting out of your GD ****!!!

If you understood anything about Ray you would know how he deals with his customers and his history with this community.

If you understood anything about the coils themselves you would understand why they are a great selection.

And if you knew anything about the automotive business at all you would know how suppliers work in the modern world and that in fact it's possible for people to make parts for cars that are no longer made by the company that originally produced them.

Christ in a hatbox you suck.
whoa slow down tiger, where did you come from????? i work at a GM dealership idiot.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Yes please - in support of what CRH just wrote above me - understand that I am the one that doesn't care what the customer thinks.
Abuse of the customer is MY department, so please feel free to come to me when you want a good brow-beating.

CRH, Easy and Flashwing are in control of the flow of the product and the relationship with the suppliers and the customers.

My job is to try my best to make stupid a painful condition.
whoa, jeff getting alittle brave there online. come on now what happen to good business practices?

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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c'mon guys, let's just calm down here a bit. This is getting out of hand.

The information is out there regarding these coils, as well as the alternatives. Take some time to research and make your choice. If you do, I'm sure you will make the right decision.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
whoa, jeff getting alittle brave there online. come on now what happen to good business practices?
I am significantly more brash in person. I tone it down for teh InterWebz.

As I noted, "good business practices" are CRH's department.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I am significantly more brash in person. I tone it down for teh InterWebz.

As I noted, "good business practices" are CRH's department.
we've met at Gils job when you were out here, i was talking to you and Easy E and Ray.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
i dont know about being false he's just trying to watch out for himself just like the stuff you say about mazsport coils. i can tell you that you have no idea what your talking bout. and everything in your post is false.
Had you or your buddy actually taken the time to read up on both of the coils you would realized that your concerns are indeed quite misguided. I know sifting through those posts to find the info that is needed is a bit of a headache but if you would truly like to educate yourself, the info is out there.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WantedTwo
Had you or your buddy actually taken the time to read up on both of the coils you would realized that your concerns are indeed quite misguided. I know sifting through those posts to find the info that is needed is a bit of a headache but if you would truly like to educate yourself, the info is out there.
whats your point???
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