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Old 03-17-2005, 05:39 PM
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AEM Cold Air

I didn't see much recent information posted about the AEM cold air induction. Has anyone made a purchase?

http://www.hopupracing.com/aemcoairinsy33.html
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AEM cold air

I am curious also. $309.00 looks alot better than the $416.00 I found earlier.
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correct me if im wrong but i don' think they are available yet...
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Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
correct me if im wrong but i don' think they are available yet...

thats why its a "pre-order" :p
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thats why its a "pre-order" :p
a pre order then..hmmm i guess 1 year is a pretty long pre order..
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AEM Cold Air

I checked back at performance center. The price is $316.00 with free shipping. No pre order mentioned there. K&n $176.00 close out.
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HP & Torque: 15 HP/12 lb ft Torque ???

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Yeah, thats why I thought i'd post something, it looks interesting. I question the 15HP and 12lb FT, i'd also like to see how it is setup. Anyone have any idea?
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wow that a stupid amoun tof power to expect off of an air intake for our car. i bet it doesn't ad anythign close to that. i'm guessing they missplaced teh decimal point on their calculations:p
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Looks like another filter on a stick to me...
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Cold Air Intakes make a HUGE difference compared to the regular intakes everyone seems to be buying. Remember - a drop of 10 degrees in ambient temperature can lead to a 1 percent increase in power - if you're sucking up 60 degree air from outside instead of 120 degree air from inside, that's a 6 percent increase in power.

Some examples - a Celica GT-S with only a CAI can gain 10 shp easily. An RSX-S with the AEM V2 CONSISTENTLY dynos an 18-20 whp gain. CAIs are the ****. Go to any other car forum, look at the dynos of before/after with a CAI and you'll see what I mean (and these dynos are inside a shop - imagine on the street, moving, with some nice cool air).
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I'll put it on my wish list maybe in 2 weeks.
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Originally Posted by cretinx
Cold Air Intakes make a HUGE difference compared to the regular intakes everyone seems to be buying. Remember - a drop of 10 degrees in ambient temperature can lead to a 1 percent increase in power - if you're sucking up 60 degree air from outside instead of 120 degree air from inside, that's a 6 percent increase in power.

Some examples - a Celica GT-S with only a CAI can gain 10 shp easily. An RSX-S with the AEM V2 CONSISTENTLY dynos an 18-20 whp gain. CAIs are the ****. Go to any other car forum, look at the dynos of before/after with a CAI and you'll see what I mean (and these dynos are inside a shop - imagine on the street, moving, with some nice cool air).
yea..but just not on the rx8...
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Our stock intake already gets cold air from outside the engine bay behind the nosepiece.
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Our stock intake already gets cold air from outside the engine bay behind the nosepiece.
That my thoughts exactly.Just put a cone filter in your stock box and you have the same thing like alot of us have done for much less $$..
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Does this CAI relocate the intake to the fender well?

Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
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At least its on AEM's website...

Mazda RX8 2004 21-485 Pending Coming Soon $440.00

http://www.aempower.com
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Originally Posted by cretinx
Does this CAI relocate the intake to the fender well?

Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
Our stock intake already has a cold air path to the nose, even though it's not sucking directly from in front of the radiator. You can easily modify that though to suck straight down into the high-pressure cold air coming in from the nose, as I have done.

Wherever this thing goes, it's not going to add more than a couple of HP, if at all. Since we already have a tuned intake tract with the VFAD + S-DAIS, a filter on a stick will likely end up hurting performance instead. The only company making an intake that is taking the existing intake tuning into account is Racing Beat, at least that I've heard about.
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
Our stock intake already has a cold air path to the nose, even though it's not sucking directly from in front of the radiator. You can easily modify that though to suck straight down into the high-pressure cold air coming in from the nose, as I have done.

Wherever this thing goes, it's not going to add more than a couple of HP, if at all. Since we already have a tuned intake tract with the VFAD + S-DAIS, a filter on a stick will likely end up hurting performance instead. The only company making an intake that is taking the existing intake tuning into account is Racing Beat, at least that I've heard about.

thats why i call them every week and harass them about it
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Originally Posted by cretinx
Does this CAI relocate the intake to the fender well?

Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
The stock intake is fully enclosed from the engine bay air. It receives air from in front of the engine bay. What does it matter if this is behind the bumper or in the fender well? Way away from the engine bay doesn't mean that it is necessarily and better. My car is in Houston and Jamaica is way away from my engine bay. This doesn't mean it's better air. The air that the stock intake is receiving is from upwind of the engine bay air. All of the hot air isn't even flowing this direction. Way away from the engine bay suddenly doesn't have any relevance. The stock intake system is plastic. It doesn't absorb heat very well. All of the aftermarket intakes have aluminum piping going through the intake. Aluminum conducts heat very well. even if this system placed the filter outside the engine bay somewhere, it's got a heat absorbing aluminum pipe running through the engine bay.

Intakes don't do much on the RX-8. A couple might gain a little, some might keep you the same, and a few others probably lose a few horsepower. I'm waiting for the Racing beat intake. While I don't expect miracles out of it either, it will do something. If they add a ram air duct to their box (injection molded, not aluminum), it will probably benefit at higher speeds. This can't be done by just placing a filter in the air stream btw. This isn't a Celica, RSX, or any other car. The RX-8 intake system was designed very well. Those other cars intakes apparently were not.
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Beg to differ on one point. The stock air box is indeed well designed. However it DOES soak up heat at speeds lower than 50mph. Do a pre filter air temp measure on a 90 degree day at speed under 50. Mine was (in Georgia) 121 degrees! I was city driving with speeds 35-45 mph for 20 minutes with a/c on. At speeds above 50 then the pre filtered air temp does indeed go to ambient temp. Its easy to reroute the intake to say behind the front rotor symbol and I think its a good inexpensive mod. If people want to play with the filters well then go ahead. like you say its not going to make much differance performance wise.
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Mine was (in Georgia) 121 degrees!
Interesting. Thanks for the data. Maybe a little thermal insulation is in order.
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I'm sure it does pick up some heat but which intake won't? Run some foil on the bottom of it.
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Foils good for cooking hamburgers ! I like cold fresh air!
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AEM is a ricey *** brand anyway, i doubt it will be any different, show me some diagrams that put the intake clearly out of the way of the engine bay with some sort of decent amount of direct air exposure and then i will put it on the top of my list of intakes, right now HKS is at the top for overall quality, sound, 4-7hp gain(one of the best gains from any of the intakes out there) and the fact that there are ZERO problems associated with it.


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