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KINGShon 08-04-2009 07:07 PM

AEM CAI sponge?
 
I just got and installed a CAI from AEM...Mazda said it wont void my warranty if it is installed with the piece(a sponge of some sort) that stops water from entering the engine...What are they talking about and where can i buy it?

Mazurfer 08-04-2009 07:08 PM

First I heard of that!
Get it in writing, just for the hell of it!

Jon316G 08-04-2009 08:02 PM

I wouldn't worry about it.
If you have an issue (lets say the engine fails a compression test), Mazda can't say that because you had an aftermarket intake on, your warranty is void (though some will/have tried).
The dealer has to prove that the aftermarket component caused the failure before they can void warranty work.
A little water in the engine is not going to hurt it, but water on the MAF sensor can create problems because then the MAF is sending false information to the PCM.
And if that happens (which it has with me a few times before), simply remove the MAF and spray contact cleaner onto the wires.
Then remove the intake pipes and couplings and dry.

Irememberurface 08-06-2009 11:20 PM

check this link out. it's to AEM's Air Bypass Valve. I think this might be what they are referring to.

http://www.aemintakes.com/air_bypass_valve.htm

Jon316G 08-07-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Irememberurface (Post 3156293)
check this link out. it's to AEM's Air Bypass Valve. I think this might be what they are referring to.

http://www.aemintakes.com/air_bypass_valve.htm

I looked at the BOM for the AEM intake thinking that this could replace the hump hose at the very front before the pipe exits the engine bay.
Only coupling that is 3" is the reducer coupling to the throttle body.
Largest size at that link above is 3"
Attachment 143537

04RX8man 08-09-2009 01:53 AM

r they talking bypass valve or the "sock"?

ac3mastuh 08-10-2009 01:28 PM

Probably the sock, I know when I installed mine, it came in the package and just was a fine mesh sock that covers the filter

HackmaN 08-11-2009 06:01 AM

I'm seriously thinking of putting this intake on.
I want to be loud and it's extra nice too, but everyone here suggest me REVi for several reasons. The main reason is mentioned upper here and it's that my engine is more likely to "crash" with the AEM and I will not be supported by my warranty any more... What do u think?:dunno:

DarthRX8 08-11-2009 07:00 AM

As long as you are not driving through a foot of water you will be FINE!

I have never had my engine lock up/ sputter/ etc because water got sucked up into the engine. I have driven in hard rain/ snow/ puddles/ touchless car washs, etc and have never had one problem. Put the sock or a prefilter over the air filter and you should be fine.

myriadshalaks 08-11-2009 08:02 AM

helps to prevent pregnancy.

DarthRX8 08-11-2009 08:09 AM

LOL, put your prefilter on before you play, otherwise you may get a surprise in 9 months.... oh noes!

cidvicious831 08-11-2009 08:49 AM

lol ^ always practice safe sex!

cidvicious831 08-11-2009 08:49 AM

so trojan makes the sock?

Shijin-Kun 08-12-2009 10:33 AM

trojan + AEM = fun time with no worries

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 12:19 PM

Trojen mannnn!!!

rodjonathan 08-12-2009 12:22 PM

i got my aem used and was wondering where i could get the sock too coz its starting to rain and i really need it now ...

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 12:25 PM

is thier a specific name for it or is it just called cai "socks"

rodjonathan 08-12-2009 12:27 PM

its just the sock it goes over the filter i think even the part list says sock ...

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 12:31 PM

searched yahoo...nothing. searched google....nothing....searched ebay.....nothing

myriadshalaks 08-12-2009 01:12 PM

call your local mazda dealer. talk to the parts people. tell them you need the sock that goes on the ms intake. i'm sure someone here can find you the part number if you need it.

i needed a new reducer hose for mine. she called some dealerships and they had one just laying around from a broken kit. i got it for free. maybe your luck will be similar. if not, i'm sure they'll sell you one.

rodjonathan 08-12-2009 01:13 PM

^ k cool thanks im on it :) i forgot theyre the same i get anything i want from mazda for free pretty much coz if legal issues i had a few years back so i should be able to get it :)

DarthRX8 08-12-2009 03:54 PM

I bought my AEM intake used and it didn't come with the sock. I went to the dealer to get just the sock and they told me that they can't order the sock separate.

End result. I went to Checker and ordered a pre filter. Link below. Can't remember exact size.

http://www.knfilters.com/airforcewraps.htm

Later I found these which looks to be exactly what comes with the AEM/MS Intake:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/wrap.aspx

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 03:56 PM

nice darth!! so its filter raps not socks!

Shijin-Kun 08-12-2009 03:57 PM

do these effect they way the intake breath?

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 03:59 PM

it says its will by 2% read it.

DarthRX8 08-12-2009 05:03 PM

I had the same thought when I put mine on. I monitored the MAF with my AP and the reading was exactly the same with and without the prefilter....

Jon316G 08-12-2009 05:45 PM

I think its funny that people are questioning the "sock" term and if that is what its really called.
But if you look at the 5th post, I attached the AEM build of materials and it says 9" Filter Sock!
And it even has the AEM part number so you might be able to call them and order the sock separately.

rodjonathan 08-12-2009 06:03 PM

does anyone know the dimensions (top diameter bottom diameter and height) of the filter i cant measure mine coza my bumper so i need those to order the filter any help would be appreciated thanks

Jon316G 08-12-2009 06:07 PM

^You can remove the filter without removing the front bumper.
Just remove the screws for the undertray (just the front screws), loosen the hose clamp for the filter, and lower the filter out the bottom between the undertray and the bumper.

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 06:10 PM

^thank you jon.

Jon316G 08-12-2009 06:13 PM

^That little trick came in handy the couple times I cleaned the filter. ;)

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 06:14 PM

lol, how often do you clean it?

Jon316G 08-12-2009 06:20 PM

I cleaned it after two years, then cleaned it again after water saturated the filter.
I've since sold my AEM, but every other year should be fine unless you live in a real dusty part of the country or just want to keep the filter really clean.

I'm lucky to have SummitRacing right down the road so I bought the AEM cleaning kit there, but you can also order it online:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AIS-21-110/
And its really easy to do, just takes awhile to air dry.
So cleaning it once a year isn't a pain unless you're really laze ;)

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 06:23 PM

lol. whats the diff between the aem and the one that mazda speed has?

Jon316G 08-12-2009 06:24 PM

Probably nothing.

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 06:26 PM

yeah thought so. they say its legal in cali (so they say)

Jon316G 08-12-2009 06:26 PM

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AEM has a nice little guide that I like on how to properly clean the filter:
Attachment 143872

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 06:32 PM

nice. im hopeing to get the k&n Typhon . but i heard its really loud.

E.M.S. 08-12-2009 06:33 PM

I have blown a motor from sucking in water but on a different vehicle/intake design. The way the MS/AEM intake is it won't have a problem with water you'll be fine. If anything happens to the motor just put the sock on before you bring it to the dealer. The motor that blew, the filter was 6 inches from the front tire getting splashed on all the time and about 4 inches off the ground. Only blew when I entered a flash flood area and I blew a connecting rod out the side. Wasn't cool.

rodjonathan 08-12-2009 06:38 PM

^ dam that sucks ...

as for the typhoon i wouldnt recommend it the aem concept is better you just have to have the balls to put it on there and not be scared of water lol

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by E.M.S. (Post 3166438)
I have blown a motor from sucking in water but on a different vehicle/intake design. The way the MS/AEM intake is it won't have a problem with water you'll be fine. If anything happens to the motor just put the sock on before you bring it to the dealer. The motor that blew, the filter was 6 inches from the front tire getting splashed on all the time and about 4 inches off the ground. Only blew when I entered a flash flood area and I blew a connecting rod out the side. Wasn't cool.

right by the tire? did they say anything?

Jon316G 08-12-2009 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by rodjonathan (Post 3166443)
as for the typhoon i wouldnt recommend it the aem concept is better you just have to have the balls to put it on there and not be scared of water lol

I agree. You'll be much happier with the AEM.
Shouldn't be scared of water with the AEM.
Worst thing is some water reaches your MAF and your engine will make a bogging sound (which is scary the first time you hear it).
Don't be scared of rain or car washes, just avoid spraying directly at the filter.
You can play it safe and put a plastic bag over the filter when you was the car.

cidvicious831 08-12-2009 07:22 PM

cool.

Shijin-Kun 08-13-2009 10:09 AM

i have a typhoon and i like the sound of it, its the only sound mod i have since i still have the stock cat/exhaust. I think it sounds good.

rodjonathan 08-13-2009 10:11 AM

^ listen to my aem youll like it better ;) lol jk i just like the concept of aem better no hot air

Shijin-Kun 08-13-2009 10:14 AM

my car came with the typhoon, i would love listen/try other ones when i have the money.

cidvicious831 08-13-2009 04:23 PM

hows the Typhon? ^ like it?

StormyWankel 08-17-2009 03:21 PM

Pre-filters (or "socks" if you will) don't really help with water since they aren't very absorbent (they'll absorb a splash from a puddle but is that really going to hurt your engine anyways? Doubtful)...that being said...on all CAI's I have EVER used on pretty much EVERY car I have owned (except my Navigator), I have NEVER used a pre-filter or a bypass valve...and I have never even had a close call in any of them(even the Focus SVT, that had a CAI that put the filter about 5 inches from the ground).

rodjonathan 08-17-2009 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Shijin-Kun (Post 3167752)
my car came with the typhoon, i would love listen/try other ones when i have the money.

we should meet up you can see how my aem sounds

Shijin-Kun 08-17-2009 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by rodjonathan (Post 3174499)
we should meet up you can see how my aem sounds

that would be cool, i wonder when the next houston meet up will be.


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