Accessport - "HP GAIN?"
 

I've been trying to find the answer to my question for a long time. Do any of you guys know for sure how much HP gain I would get from an Accessport? Is there a difference in gain between an MT and AT? Thanks.

it would vary by your current tune and how capable your tuner is.

The 'performance' tune that Cobb sends with the AP is kind of sad......

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Isn't that why MM gives you 6months of free tunes? So you can get the most out of what you have? The preloaded tunes are one size fits all tunes are not for your specific vehicle and that is most likely why you are unhappy with it. If you have had the 6months of free tuning through MM and are still unsatisfied, please let us know and explain why.

yes, but still better than stock.

OP -- see my see sig.

Also, with the CobbAP, you could tweak the AFR's yourself, if you know what you are doing. How does the CobbAP with MM's final tune compare to these?

I would like to see some data on that too.

If anyone has a Non FI RX8 with CobbAP and a final tune from MM, could you share your AFR for comparison?

i'm sure the afrs will be comparably good and likely better looking. I'm interested in the timing maps and the VE tables. But we'll never see them.

I have seen 10 hp on 100% stock motor.

15 to 20 on modified. These are Dynos.

Main thing is other benefits.

Runs leaner at idle so you don't foul plugs and flood engine. fans come on sooner.

More oil is injected to seals etc...........

depends on how good your tuner is, how well your car runs now, and yes there is a difference between MT and AT. (MT's can make power at higher RPM's)

All of the above. Worth the money when you consider an exhaust will get you 2-3 HP for the same amount of money.

but my exhaust sounds WAAAAYYYYY cooler then my AP.

Best mod for the money IMO.

Gut your cat = Free and then you get to be loud too.....

Can lean out the tune with the AP(better if you are catless) to make more power since these things run pig rich to help keep out kitty CAT happy!

yes!

but I still need to breathe. I can't stand Cat-less cars like my rx7, it came with full RB race setup. Awww cant stand the smell. gotta spend another 900 bux to buy a new Mangaflow cat and RB Exhaust(cost almost as much as the car lol)

Thinking should I get AP or Exhaust for my 8 ...

i was also trying to decide between the cobb from MM or an exhaust. i decided on getting the exhaust firstand other mods, that way when i do get the cobb from MM itll be more specific to my most current setup.

you might want to contact me about this. :)

beers :beer:

so.

ap

or

exhaust ?

:mchase:

not getting it yet, no money :(

the damn FC cost me almost 4 K in parts :( the car doesnt even worth that much rofl :(

but its always good to get some 2nd opinion before hand :)

turbonator baby.

send me a pm. when you have time..

btw, i think the honda fit is hot!

beers :beer:

AP?
LOL hasn't done anything for me.
free post

Question. Are functions such as early/constant fan operation, AFR adjustment, more oil on startup, etc doable by regular customers? Or must a professional handle those?

I know I can find it by reading through a hundred pages of threads, I just need a brain jogger. I think it's no...

you can do it using the racetuner software available from cobb.

Did you buy the AP from MM or somewhere online? I'm guessing you did not get 6 months of tunes free.

sarcasm ... not always understood.

^sarcasm is hard to express over the internet! haha

What he said....
I've seen the best improvements made on 8's without a cat.

I do, and I will.
Just gimme a couple minutes to scan them and get'm uploaded.

Mmmm ya sorry about that. I must have a few too many pops when I did that. I generally start doing the free post thing if I've had too many.
Some people drunk dial, I free post. We all have our crosses to bare.

To be honest I would NOT recommend to anyone that they buy the AP if the only thing they were going to do with it was use the Cobb Stage 1 tune.
That tune really isn't that good IMHO.

My car actually throws a Lean Condition cell when I use the Cobb Stage 1 tune.
I can't remember the P# right now, I will try and find it.

Anyways the Cobb is some much more than that, its a tool and a good one at that.
I bought it because I wanted to monitor all the things that it can, and eventually make my own tunes using the Access Tuner Race software.

(myriadshalaks I haven't forgotten about trying your free tunz. I'm on holidaze this week, I hope to get around to trying them out)

I also knew that I would be getting MM to tune my car, more specifically I knew I would be getting him to tune it for my nitrous setup.
With that being said, you will notice my AFR's are on the rich side in the dyno's.

First Dyno (ever)
Bone stock, car was only 4 months or so old.

Date Summer 2005

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Second Dyno. Drove to Chicago for this one.
Zex 55 shot, Cobb AP, RB CAI and Ram Air, Under drive pulleys, lightened flywheel,

MM's first tune on my car.

Date = Summer 2008 (however the dyno says 2007, it couldn't have been that long ago)


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Third Dyno. Back to the same place as my first one.
Mods = Added a High Flow cat, and up'd the nitrous to a 65 shot.

MM's second tune on my car

Date = Fall 2008


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Congrats! That is a kick ass dyno. Nice and smooth lines! :)

Thank-you or should I say MM thanks you.
Clean plugs, new wires and coils helps as well.


The cell that the Cobb Stage 1 tune causes is (mention in post #29)

P2270 Rear HO2S signal stuck lean ON 2 HO2S ´ (See DTC P2270 )

I was thinking about posting something about this in the Cobb forums however with all the modifications that I have I don't think it would go well, but meh I will do it anyway.

http://forums.cobbtuning.com/forums/...362#post614362