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Old May 25, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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NASA-Carolina Motorsports Park - July 12-13

I don't think a lot of folks are going to this one.
I am planning on going and OnRails will be there.
Anyone else?
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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na not me i wont do another one until the weather cools---i will visit at ra though!
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Old May 25, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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na not me i wont do another one until the weather cools---i will visit at ra though!
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Not much left after the weather cools! Rockingham Sept and RA in Dec is all for NASA. I am going to have to find some miata friendly clubs, do another SeatTime, or get on TGPR again.

Or all of the above..
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Unless something weird happens I won't be there. I would like to, but June is going to drain me on multiple fronts, won't be able to swing a track weekend in July. BMP may be my last for the year.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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I will be. I have a track set of wheels, looking for tires...

I think the 8 will be double-timing again.

I look forward to meeting those who are there also sportin' 8s.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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We'll have just relocated to Charlotte before this, so maybe we'll come to check it out if nothing else. I'll look for the other 8 drivers while I'm there. We're still not sure we want to run with NASA, they seem a bit conservative/strict than what we're used to.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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We'll have just relocated to Charlotte before this, so maybe we'll come to check it out if nothing else. I'll look for the other 8 drivers while I'm there. We're still not sure we want to run with NASA, they seem a bit conservative/strict than what we're used to.
Interesting. What org have you been running with? What are the differences that you see that you don't like?

Have you checked out the Charlotte club site : cltrx8club.com
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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We run with SpeedVentures out here in SoCal, and have spoken with a lot of other drivers who run with NASA as wll, and they all say NASA is very conservative and strict. For example, I don't know if they would let us give references or anything to not have to start in HPDE1 our first event with them, even though we have 2 years of track experience. And from what I understand their HPDE4 rules are equivalent to running with the intermediate group with SpeedVentures, as opposed to equivalent to an advanced group. So it might be good to come out and check them out to see what they have to say. I certainly don't want to pay to come out and be forced to run HPDE1 and do lead-follow all day like a newb, you know? That's a waste of money IMO.

Have you run with them before? What are your experiences?

Oh, and yes I have checked out that site, but I need to remember to frequent it more now.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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hpde 1 doesnt have a lead follow.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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We run with SpeedVentures out here in SoCal, and have spoken with a lot of other drivers who run with NASA as wll, and they all say NASA is very conservative and strict. For example, I don't know if they would let us give references or anything to not have to start in HPDE1 our first event with them, even though we have 2 years of track experience. And from what I understand their HPDE4 rules are equivalent to running with the intermediate group with SpeedVentures, as opposed to equivalent to an advanced group. So it might be good to come out and check them out to see what they have to say. I certainly don't want to pay to come out and be forced to run HPDE1 and do lead-follow all day like a newb, you know? That's a waste of money IMO.

Have you run with them before? What are your experiences?

Oh, and yes I have checked out that site, but I need to remember to frequent it more now.
Each NASA region has slightly different rules for their HPDE groups. I think the NASA-SE HPDE 3 rules are pretty wide open, i.e., Open passing anywhere on the track with a point-by.

Just send an email to NASA-SE registration with your list of experience ( registration AT nasa-southeast DOT com ) and ask them which group you should sign up for. Free and easy. Group 2 is solo now but on track with group 1. Group three is advanced / intermediate combined. Group 4 is mostly instructors but anyone can take a checkride to move to group 4.

HPDE1 = An instructor rides with you, Passing only in the straights with a point-by.
HPDE2 = Solo, Passing only in the straights with a point-by.
HPDE3 = Solo, Passing anywhere with a point-by.
HPDE4 = Solo, Passing anywhere, Point-By not required but recommended

1 and 2 always run together. 3 and 4 are often combined.

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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KAtC10
We run with SpeedVentures out here in SoCal, and have spoken with a lot of other drivers who run with NASA as wll, and they all say NASA is very conservative and strict. For example, I don't know if they would let us give references or anything to not have to start in HPDE1 our first event with them, even though we have 2 years of track experience. And from what I understand their HPDE4 rules are equivalent to running with the intermediate group with SpeedVentures, as opposed to equivalent to an advanced group. So it might be good to come out and check them out to see what they have to say. I certainly don't want to pay to come out and be forced to run HPDE1 and do lead-follow all day like a newb, you know? That's a waste of money IMO.

Have you run with them before? What are your experiences?

Oh, and yes I have checked out that site, but I need to remember to frequent it more now.
LOL, no lead-follow even in DE1. Get good contact info for NASA-SE
hint (registration@nasa-southeast.com)
Ask them about your experience. Worst case, you do a check run in DE2 and get signed off to DE3 same morning.
DE 3/4 generally run together. And many of those are TT.

Am curious what you think might hold you back speed wise? Just the group you are in? Or the track rules? Not being insulting, but sometimes there are different here/
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OnRails
Each NASA region has slightly different rules for their HPDE groups. I think the NASA-SE HPDE 3 rules are pretty wide open, i.e., Open passing anywhere on the track with a point-by.

Just send an email to NASA-SE registration with your list of experience ( registration AT nasa-southeast DOT com ) and ask them which group you should sign up for. Free and easy. Group 2 is solo now but on track with group 1. Group three is advanced / intermediate combined. Group 4 is mostly instructors but anyone can take a checkride to move to group 4.

HPDE1 = An instructor rides with you, Passing only in the straights with a point-by.
HPDE2 = Solo, Passing only in the straights with a point-by.
HPDE3 = Solo, Passing anywhere with a point-by.
HPDE4 = Solo, Passing anywhere, Point-By not required but recommended

1 and 2 always run together. 3 and 4 are often combined.
Well that doesn't sound much different than what I'm used to then. Maybe it's just NASA out here that's more strict.

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LOL, no lead-follow even in DE1. Get good contact info for NASA-SE
hint (registration@nasa-southeast.com)
Ask them about your experience. Worst case, you do a check run in DE2 and get signed off to DE3 same morning.
DE 3/4 generally run together. And many of those are TT.

Am curious what you think might hold you back speed wise? Just the group you are in? Or the track rules? Not being insulting, but sometimes there are different here/
Yeah I'll definitely check into it with them. I'm mostly concerned about being held up by strict passing rules (only on certain areas of track) or dis-courteous drivers who don't give point-bys. Like anyone, I just want to make sure I can drive at my own pace, not someone else's. I'm just going on what I've heard from other drivers, I'll probably head down to this event to discuss it with them in person and see the track first-hand. Do they allow passengers that I might get a ride-along with someone here?

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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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I am signing up for this one, hope to see you guys there. The stang goes in the shop next week, hopefully, will be back with the new goodies . If not, I just hope to be back .
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 05:12 AM
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I just want to make sure I can drive at my own pace, not someone else's. I'm just going on what I've heard from other drivers, I'll probably head down to this event to discuss it with them in person and see the track first-hand. Do they allow passengers that I might get a ride-along with someone here?
There is always going to be the occasional butthead that doesn't wanna let you by, but the workers are pretty good about tossing the blue/yellow pass flag.
And yes, you can ride with an instructor. We usually have a fair number of our instructors (SE-club) but not sure who is going yet. Lots of folks did Roebling, and are just getting home from Barber, and then Road Atlanta is Aug. CMP might not be a big event for us since NASA has already been there a couple times this year.
Am sure we can find someone to haul you around though.

StopTurn - Good luck on the stang! Hope to see you there!
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Things are panning out, good news is the door is back on, bad is I need the quarter panel fixed. Other than that, things are good. Car is as strong as ever, which is to say underpowered, but solid!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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I signed up yesterday.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Excellente!
I was just coming here to bump this and see who else was going.

If TA can't make it, I may have half a hotel room for you. Am staying at Colony as usual.
If you haven't followed it, BRE racing is tossing a big *** party on Sat. Live music, free beer, etc. Nice guys, they were next to us at Barber.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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If you haven't followed it, BRE racing is tossing a big *** party on Sat. Live music, free beer, etc. Nice guys, they were next to us at Barber.
I lurk the NASA forums pretty regularly. Looks like it's gonna be fun Sat night!
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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I am signed-up and I should be there as well unless someting un-forseen keeps me.

If extra "Mustang Sauce" was good to me @ Barber then more must be better so I'll pack a little extra for CMP.

See ya there.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 04:10 AM
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Lol - mustang sauce
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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I am official now. w00t!

Did I just w00t?
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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I will be there with ROAR Racing, we will be bringing our new track prepped car and most likely one of our KONI Challenge cars.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:50 AM
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I am definitely not going to make this one as I have family obligations. I'll be doing Road Atlanta with BMW July 5 and 6 though so I'll get some close track.
Onrails - have fun in TT.
I'll have fun for sure!

Sorry you won't make it. I'll be sure to take some video.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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TA - won't be the same without you. Was hoping you could make it.

OnRails - TTC? Lol. I am paddocking with you and TA2 competing in TTC. Can't wait for the discussions!

I8U - you guys are easy to find!

Waldo - You getting there fri or coming in Sat morning?
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