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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Talking Zaino noob needs help!!

I'm tired of using products from the convenient store (good, but not...), and want to do an very extensive detail of the exterior.

I've been doing some research on Zaino products for quite some time now, and am making sure I've everything in order, so I don't screw up.


Is this the process of cleaning

1) wash with detergent
2) Z-7 Car Wash
3) Z-18 Clay Bar
4) wash again?
5) Z-2 wax, buffer
6) Z-8 Grand Finale Spray Seal

What would be best for wheels and tires? I've been using Eagle1 for the wheels, and Black Magic Tire Shine, which work well but doesn't give the super clean affect.

Any tips, hints? towards making the car super shiny

Thanks
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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warm soapy water. dry. wax.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Message you should send to Jedi54. Resident Zaino Master he is.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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All the steps you have there are correct.


Make sure you use the zfx accelerant so that the Z-2 will dry faster.

You will need at least 3 coats of the Z-2 and make sure you use the Z-9 polish spray between coats or your Z-8 grand finale.
Vvvwwhhaallaaa mirror like finish.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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1) Wash car with Dawn soap. (this will help remove all the old wax)
2) Claybar (make sure you do NOT drop the clay. If you do, throw out, use a new one) When you are using the claybar, you need to make sure you keep the paint 'lubricated'.
- Wash car after you claybar. Z7 will do just fine.
3) Z2 w/ ZFX
4) Spray a THIN coat of Z6
5) Z2 w/ zfx
6) Z6
7 Z2 w/ zfx
8) Z6 or Z8 Grand Finale.

What color is your car?

If it's a dark color, I'd recommend doing your first two coats with Z5 instead of Z2. Z5 works much better with dark colors and can help cover up fine scratches.

Z2 has much better optical properties (aka SHINIER) so always make sure the last coat is with Z2. (always use zxf with either one)

Last edited by Jedi54; Jul 19, 2007 at 11:19 AM.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Never fear, Jedi is here!
haha, i so knew you were going to say that when you posted.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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haha, i so knew you were going to say that when you posted.
no you didn't....
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Cool Life is too short.....

So with three coats, that is NINE times you go over the car?

If I live to be a hundred I'll never have THAT much free time....

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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yeah, but look how SHINEY it looks...
(shameless plug)



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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Never fear, Jedi is here!

1) Wash car with Dawn soap. (this will help remove all the old wax)
2) Claybar (make sure you do NOT drop the clay. If you do, throw out, use a new one) When you are using the claybar, you need to make sure you keep the paint 'lubricated'.
3) Z2 w/ ZFX
4) Spray a THIN coat of Z6
5) Z2 w/ zfx
6) Z6
7 Z2 w/ zfx
8) Z6 or Z8 Grand Finale.

What color is your car?

If it's a dark color, I'd recommend doing your first two coats with Z5 instead of Z2. Z5 works much better with dark colors and can help cover up fine scratches.

Z2 has much better optical properties (aka SHINIER) so always make sure the last coat is with Z2. (always use zxf with either one)
Wow! How long does it typically take you to complete the car?
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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crap, I just spotted an error in my checklist. After step 2 (claybar), make sure you wash the car before applying any Zaino.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaJeff
Wow! How long does it typically take you to complete the car?
The first time you do Zaino, it's quite time intensive because you wash it twice .(Dawn soap and after Claybar)
That part alone can take anywhere from 1-2.5 hours depending on the person.


At this point, I've done it so many times that I can wash my car and do 3 coats of Zaino in about 4 hours.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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4 hours is pretty impressive. I can take up to two hours just washing my car.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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is there no pollen where you live? when i wash my car the hood already has crap on it by the time i'm done with the bumper
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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don't forget to make sure you dry EVERY water spot off the car before you apply any zaino.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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I can wash and dry my car in about 40 minutes.
I take about an hour per coat of Zaino + Z6
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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I see a 4 hour youtube video of Jedi "doing" his car in our future.......
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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approximately 2.5 hours of it will be a shot of jedi kicking back with boos and reading this forum while he waits to rub off the zaino. lol
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Dude follow the Jedi method and you can't go wrong it took me a while for the first time but it was so worth the end result.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Dude follow the Jedi method and you can't go wrong it took me a while for the first time but it was so worth the end result.
Another satifised Jedi student?
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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What Jedi said is exactly what I;ve done. Two weeks ago, I did use Z-AIO and Z-CS.

1)Wash
2) I had no marring, so I went with Z-AIO. It'll remove anything that is down already. If you have marring, go with a Z-PC polish.
3) Z5-Pro Z-fx'ed then Z-6 after wipedown
4) Z-2Pro Z-FX'ed then Z-6 after wipedown
5) Z-CS THINLY. Do not apply to hot car or in sun. Let cure for two hours. Then, Z-6 wipedown.
6)Z-8

Personally, I like this method better than the one Jedi used...and I've done exactly what he did before. This one just was quicker.

Jedi,

Have you tried CS or Z-AIO yet? AIO adds such a warm look when its the base. It rocks. CS just adds that extra bling like Z-8 does, its just stonger.

ZAINO !
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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I used the Z-CS with my last Zaino session...I keep forgetting to write a review on that stuff.

The method I described above, should only be done if it's the first time using Zaino OR once a year or so. (since I recommend doing clay bar once a year)
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Never fear, Jedi is here!

1) Wash car with Dawn soap. (this will help remove all the old wax)
2) Claybar (make sure you do NOT drop the clay. If you do, throw out, use a new one) When you are using the claybar, you need to make sure you keep the paint 'lubricated'.
- Wash car after you claybar. Z7 will do just fine.
3) Z2 w/ ZFX
4) Spray a THIN coat of Z6
5) Z2 w/ zfx
6) Z6
7 Z2 w/ zfx
8) Z6 or Z8 Grand Finale.

What color is your car?

If it's a dark color, I'd recommend doing your first two coats with Z5 instead of Z2. Z5 works much better with dark colors and can help cover up fine scratches.

Z2 has much better optical properties (aka SHINIER) so always make sure the last coat is with Z2. (always use zxf with either one)
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Thanks Jedi
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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crap, I just spotted an error in my checklist. After step 2 (claybar), make sure you wash the car before applying any Zaino.
After clay bar, you use zaino car was correct?


Thanks
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Wash with Dawn.
Clay bar.
Wash again with Z7 car wash.
Three coats of Z5 with light coats of Z6 in between.
Call it a day.
Three coats of Z2 with light coats of Z6 in between.
A final coat of Z8 Grand Finale and your done.
It took eight hours over 2 days, but you've never never seen depth of shine like this.

Smokin' hot paint job, envy of all other... a Jedi seeks these things.
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