TurboEight

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am i doing it wrong?

while wet
Spray
wipe/buff

this stuff stays on!!...the car looks like it's been wiped with oil afterwards....

comments?

Teach me how to use it ?

edblor

I have found, that if you skimp on a wax product, e.g., anything that says you get a better result with less work, that it is just not true.

I tried the TW Ice and Liquid Clay bar products, and you just do not get as good results than with a quality wax, and a real bar of clay.

As for EA Wax-as-u-dry, I honestly do not know. I googled it and could not find any kind of instructions on its use.

Cheers fellow Richmond Hill'r

Ed

rg200amp

there is no such thing as wax as you dry. its all crap

wax has to be applied dry, then it has to haze, then you buff it out.

dont use that junk. go get a meguiars, or mothers wax, and enjoy.


or do what i do--- spend the cash and reap the rewards with zaino.

TurboEight

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damn..it...should have made clear i was NOT trying to avoid waxing and polishing.

I DO clay my car...polish and used zaino...and alot of OTC waxes as well

I am just using this as a QD.....after wash touch up sorta thing....

rg200amp: don't tell me you wax your car everytime you wash your car once.....

Targatheory

True. It's not convenient to put wax on after you wash your car, if you wash your car periodically that is. Don't they make wash soap with wax in it? I swear there used to be this stuff called RainDance, which was just that.

TurboEight

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loll

i rather use wax as u dry

lots of guys over on autopia use this stuff.....

and works well as a QD.....

rg200amp

NO NO NOOO i wax once a month, i do wash my car 2x a week, and after each wash i use a non abrasive polish.

wax is just that- wax, it distorts your cars clear coat if you use to much to often. you should wax 1 time a month, polish whenever you wash. wax as u dry is not giving a real protection, nor is the wash and wax, cause as you know wax has to dry and haze and cure. how is that done if the car is wet, and your drying it?

if you want to get on a great program do this___

1 wash car with dawn.
2 polish and buff
3 polish and buff
4 wax and buff
now your set - wash(thanks casedogg for pointing that out)with a good car wash like meguiars 1-2 times a week, and polish after(if you dont polish everytime its ok, try to polish atleast 3-4 times a month)
and wax 1 time a month.


-make sure you use a non-abrasive polish
and not a cleaner wax.

this is my method, im not saying i am a god of carwashing, but im good friends with a lot of detailers, and i have tried EVERYTHING including the wax as you dry,
this is by far, imho the best way to do it.
but to each his own

GuyWithRx8

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From the Zaino website:

rg200amp

only wash with dawn once, to get a deep clean, and to take off the old wax, then polish and wax.

then when you wash after tht, use a good car wash like meguiras, ardex, or zaino.


you just use dawn the first time to start the program



thanks casedogg for pointing that out, it did look like i said wash everytime with dawn

ndtechie09

Hey RG I saw you the other day in Oxford Valley Area, you were making a right by Olive Garden. I wasn't in the 8 I was in the Subaru at the time. I was digging the rims, did you get them powder coated?

Targatheory

So whats a good "non abrasive" polish. You can't use regular car polish, like Megs Deep Crystal Step 2 everytime you wash. Eventually you will polish through your clear. Am I correct? Wouldn't something like a paint cleaner be better?

rg200amp

yea i do recall the subaru.

na, there not powder coat, there just duplicolor wheel paint and clear.

im saving for new wheels and tires, so in the mean time i wanted to see how the stock wheels looked gunmetal. i like them, i think my aftermarkets will be either black or gunmetal. im still up in the air.

rg200amp

you have to look for it, ardex makes it, and some places online carry it, its hard to find cause there usally light abrasives it them. if you cant find them, use a cleaner wax, a cleaner wax will do the same thing, but it will not get the most wettest look out of the paint

Astral

I wonder what you're doing wrong. Others have used Wax-as-U-Dry with decent results. I mean, it is what it is, just a bit of natural wax.

Are you buffing it off entirely? Or are you leaving it wet? Maybe your buffing towel is getting too wet? Maybe you're spraying too much product?

Try using an extra towel that you keep dry for that final pass (as your normal drying towel may be getting wet).

Astral

It would take you an insanely many applications of Deep Crystal Step 2 to go through your polish. You will junk your car before it happens. Hand polishes such as Deep Crystal Step 2 contain very light abrasives (if it contains any at all). To really eat thru your clear, you'd have to do many applications of an aggressive polish by machine. By hand, you can barely remove minor swirl marks.

Astral

Whoa now, where have you heard that? Why would wax distort your clear coat? It's just stuff on top of your clearcoat. Sure, waxes bond to the paint, some a little stronger than others, but it's nothing at all that would cause any distortion or anything like that. You can wax every day and while you would be wasting product, you aren't gonna distort anything.

It is not a requirement for wax to dry and haze and cure. It depends completely on the type of wax. For example, Zaino Clear-Seal is a wax (ok, technically sealant) that requires no buffing whatsoever. You literally wipe it on. Jeff's Werkstatt Acrylic Jett Trigger requires no hazing/drying/waiting time, yet is a durable wax that lasts up to 6 months. Optimum Car Wax is a nice wax that requires no waiting, no buffing. Both of those products are literally spray-and-wipe (well, more like spray-and-buff).

Consider Wax-As-U-Dry--it's basically spray wax that's pretty concentrated. So you want to use it very sparingly. As you dry your car, the you dilute the wax with the water, and as you move the towel around, you are essentially buffing it in.

What non-abrasive polish do you use? If you're using a polish designed to clean the paint, you're taking off the wax that you had.

To each his own for sure.