Group buy on Microfiber towels
09-18-2003, 08:58 AM
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Group buy on Microfiber towels
Info in the thread below. If you like keeping your car clean, and don't have a stack of microfiber towels, you don't know what you're missing! You really do need some.
http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=224749
http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=224749
09-18-2003, 03:09 PM
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Re: Group buy on Microfiber towels
Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
Info in the thread below. If you like keeping your car clean, and don't have a stack of microfiber towels, you don't know what you're missing! You really do need some.
http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=224749
Info in the thread below. If you like keeping your car clean, and don't have a stack of microfiber towels, you don't know what you're missing! You really do need some.
http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=224749
09-18-2003, 04:15 PM
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I've bought four of them and they are GREAT to use with Zaino. I purchased four Luxury soft yellow 16" X 16" towels. They are made with 221,000 tpi. These will not damage the car. Anyone in the Greater Toronto Area can PM me for my sales contact. I believe he ships.
Here's some things to watch for from my sales guy:
There are 2 processes needed for making a microfibre cloth.
The First is to make raw microfiber thread. This is the relatively cheap and easy part.
Typical microfibre is 80% polyester and 20% polyamide (high end stuff is 70/30). It's intended to be super-fine, with a standard denier of < 0.2. The "good stuff" is about 0.13 denier. Denier is a measurement based on the mass of 9000 meters of thread. 1 denier means 9,000 meters has a mass of 1 gram. The smaller the denier, the finer the threads.
To put it into comparison, extemely fine silk has a denier of about 1.25. This makes quality microfibre about 10 times finer than silk. Smooth and Soft!
Cheap Factory Trick #1: There's no real laws set on how fine microfiber has to be. A blend with a 0.9 denier is still "microfiber". A cheaper cloth is likely to be coarser. Granted, it's still finer than silk.
2nd part of making a cloth. Process it into a cloth.
Now, the neat thing about microfibre is that it's superfine, and thus can be super-tightly woven. If you weave microfibre thread into a towel, it forms a barrier that is practically waterproof! For a car... this is worthless. You probably bought a microfiber cloth to lift wax or remove water. A water resistant cloth is just going to smear stuff around.
The expensive part is what the industry just calls "splitting". Individual threads are split out and exposed like hooks so that they can absorb water and grab dirt and wax. A split microfiber cloth will happily suck up to 7 times it's mass in water, or burnish 5 cars before it needs washing.
Cheap Factory Trick #2: Don't split the fabric. No laws that say you NEED to. If you bought a cheap towel, you are running 80%+ odds that it's NOT split.
A good 80/20 cloth generally costs about $5-8 USD each ($15-$20 US for a 3-pack). The 70/30 blend "Magic/Miracle Towels" cost about $15 US for just one.
There is a huge difference between a cheap microfiber and a good one. If in doubt, stick to cotton
Here's some things to watch for from my sales guy:
There are 2 processes needed for making a microfibre cloth.
The First is to make raw microfiber thread. This is the relatively cheap and easy part.
Typical microfibre is 80% polyester and 20% polyamide (high end stuff is 70/30). It's intended to be super-fine, with a standard denier of < 0.2. The "good stuff" is about 0.13 denier. Denier is a measurement based on the mass of 9000 meters of thread. 1 denier means 9,000 meters has a mass of 1 gram. The smaller the denier, the finer the threads.
To put it into comparison, extemely fine silk has a denier of about 1.25. This makes quality microfibre about 10 times finer than silk. Smooth and Soft!
Cheap Factory Trick #1: There's no real laws set on how fine microfiber has to be. A blend with a 0.9 denier is still "microfiber". A cheaper cloth is likely to be coarser. Granted, it's still finer than silk.
2nd part of making a cloth. Process it into a cloth.
Now, the neat thing about microfibre is that it's superfine, and thus can be super-tightly woven. If you weave microfibre thread into a towel, it forms a barrier that is practically waterproof! For a car... this is worthless. You probably bought a microfiber cloth to lift wax or remove water. A water resistant cloth is just going to smear stuff around.
The expensive part is what the industry just calls "splitting". Individual threads are split out and exposed like hooks so that they can absorb water and grab dirt and wax. A split microfiber cloth will happily suck up to 7 times it's mass in water, or burnish 5 cars before it needs washing.
Cheap Factory Trick #2: Don't split the fabric. No laws that say you NEED to. If you bought a cheap towel, you are running 80%+ odds that it's NOT split.
A good 80/20 cloth generally costs about $5-8 USD each ($15-$20 US for a 3-pack). The 70/30 blend "Magic/Miracle Towels" cost about $15 US for just one.
There is a huge difference between a cheap microfiber and a good one. If in doubt, stick to cotton
09-18-2003, 05:02 PM
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What's up with coming into my thread and posting info about the sale of your own (or your guys) microfibers? That's kinda rude ...
Anyway, that link does work, try it again.
Anyway, that link does work, try it again.
09-18-2003, 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
What's up with coming into my thread and posting info about the sale of your own (or your guys) microfibers? That's kinda rude ...
What's up with coming into my thread and posting info about the sale of your own (or your guys) microfibers? That's kinda rude ...
Cross-border shopping, shipping and customs is sometimes a pain when we order stuff from the states. A lot of companies in the states will only ship to the continental USA. I'm just providing an opportunity for Canadian members to have access to a good product for their cars.
I'm not making a penny on this, and Canadian users can choose the best deal for them. This may be a lot cheaper than your "group buy". Don't you want the best deal for RX-8 members?
10-11-2003, 02:18 PM
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Re: Group buy on Microfiber towels
Why not just post the information in THIS forum?
10-29-2003, 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by Kap
Is there someway to get in on the group buy without having to register as a member of the rx7 forum?
Is there someway to get in on the group buy without having to register as a member of the rx7 forum?
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10-29-2003, 01:43 PM
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Group buy on Microfiber towels
I personally own a ton of these, and LOVE them. I use them for cleaning everything on my cars. I even use them for cleaning around the house. Having a stack of them really will make cleaning your car much easier, and the results will be better.
Enough of my testimonial, here are the details.
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Towel info can be found at http://www.pakshak.com
Group Buy prices are:
$2.25 for each 16" x 16" micro fiber towel (colors available: lightblue, mint green, and dark green)
$4.75 for each 24" X 24" micro fiber towel (colors available: light blue and mint green)
$12.00 for each 25" x 36" waffle weave micro fiber towel (color: light blue)
$3.95 for six (6) - yellow foam wax/polish applicator pads
*Plus shipping and handling via USPS Priority Mail (Zone 8) with Delivery Confirmation. Most international orders are shipped via USPS Airmail Letter Post or USPS Airmail Parcel Post.
If you have any questions, write Ranney Pak directly or call at the info below.
MICROPAK LLC
Email: ranney@pakshak.com
Ph: (808)783-6006
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I personally own a ton of these, and LOVE them. I use them for cleaning everything on my cars. I even use them for cleaning around the house. Having a stack of them really will make cleaning your car much easier, and the results will be better.
Enough of my testimonial, here are the details.
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Towel info can be found at http://www.pakshak.com
Group Buy prices are:
$2.25 for each 16" x 16" micro fiber towel (colors available: lightblue, mint green, and dark green)
$4.75 for each 24" X 24" micro fiber towel (colors available: light blue and mint green)
$12.00 for each 25" x 36" waffle weave micro fiber towel (color: light blue)
$3.95 for six (6) - yellow foam wax/polish applicator pads
*Plus shipping and handling via USPS Priority Mail (Zone 8) with Delivery Confirmation. Most international orders are shipped via USPS Airmail Letter Post or USPS Airmail Parcel Post.
If you have any questions, write Ranney Pak directly or call at the info below.
MICROPAK LLC
Email: ranney@pakshak.com
Ph: (808)783-6006
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Well, I was just about to break down and buy some, but Zio, you've got me wondering. THESE are the towels you've been using? Is there anything else you think might have been responsible? I've been using the 100% cotton white towels for some time, but am getting a little tired of the fibers they leave after drying, even after many washes.
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ive only seen scratches on the hood, and the roof; none on the doors, fenders, bumpers, or trunk so I don't think they are scratching it. It may be from normal use of the car.
04-22-2004, 09:02 PM
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Zio I may be time for new microfiber cloths. Even running them though the wash can't was the tiny dirt particles out of the fibers. About 10 uses a cloth and its done. I have 5 of these tiny scratches but I can only see them under intense direct sunlight.
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Sorry, these towels rule ... but the group buy is over 
I have about 100 of them and just cycle through, ALWAYS using a fresh clean one. Never use one more than once before washing.
I have about 100 of them and just cycle through, ALWAYS using a fresh clean one. Never use one more than once before washing.
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Microfiber Towels - Forget Group Buy
this is insane, I had to register because I can't believe the prices that these guys and websites are trying to push on these microfiber towels...
We've been selling them here in California for quite some time for around $20-25 for whole dozen!
***GODedit*** You may not advertise you product here unless you pay a advertsinging fee.
We've been selling them here in California for quite some time for around $20-25 for whole dozen!
***GODedit*** You may not advertise you product here unless you pay a advertsinging fee.
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I don't know if this deal is at all Targets, but the Target near me has 6 MF towels for $2.88. 70/30 blend. No mention of the thread count, but no scratches so far on my 8 (er, at least, not from the towels).
11-04-2004, 12:09 PM
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ChemGuys sent you a PM you can't advertise here unless your a authorized vendor.
Beside I wouldn't touch my paint with anything other then an all natural microfiber cloth I've been told the synthetics pours (fibers) shrink when you wash them with any standard detergent.
I even have ones from crystal guard that cost $15bucks a cloth that are made out of the fiber they used to clean camera lenses.
Think about it logically I bought Micropaks cheapest kit which is all you really need (1 to wash, 1 huge waffle weave to dry, 1 to apply zaino, 1 to whip off zaino, and one ultra fine (baby soft) to apply the gloss enhancer.
Cost me $40 bucks and I take extra care hand washing them with non-fabric softened detergent and they'll last me 6 months. And when I can use them on the paint anymore then I have a "underbody cloth" a "wheel cloth" a "engine bay cloth" etc.....
You car cost 30k give or take you can afford to spend $40 bucks to take care of it right!
Beside I wouldn't touch my paint with anything other then an all natural microfiber cloth I've been told the synthetics pours (fibers) shrink when you wash them with any standard detergent.
I even have ones from crystal guard that cost $15bucks a cloth that are made out of the fiber they used to clean camera lenses.
Think about it logically I bought Micropaks cheapest kit which is all you really need (1 to wash, 1 huge waffle weave to dry, 1 to apply zaino, 1 to whip off zaino, and one ultra fine (baby soft) to apply the gloss enhancer.
Cost me $40 bucks and I take extra care hand washing them with non-fabric softened detergent and they'll last me 6 months. And when I can use them on the paint anymore then I have a "underbody cloth" a "wheel cloth" a "engine bay cloth" etc.....
You car cost 30k give or take you can afford to spend $40 bucks to take care of it right!
