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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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Just because one uninformed dude says that the leather seat is "vinyl coated," everyone automatically believes him...ROFLMAO. No, the whole seat is not leather, but it ain't leatherette/pleather/vinyl, either. To use my red/black seat as an example, the red seating surfaces where my butt and back touch are real leather. The black side bolsters where my thighs and backsides touch are leatherette. Sure, some of the cleaners/conditioners are formulated specifically for either leatherette/vinyl or leather. But some leather conditioners/cleaners may be used on leatherette as well. Just read the label on the container. I personally use Meguiar's leather cleaner/conditioner on the whole seat and have had no problem.

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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Before someone complains that Mazda cuts corner and puts cheap leatherette in their cars, just know that it's actually a standard practice. Even high-end brands like MB, BMW, etc., do this--unless you go for the full leather option, which will also give you real leather on the door panels. Heck, Audi and BMW even give full leatherette interior instead of cloth on their A3/4 and 3-series respectively.

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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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^I was told by a guy who works in upholstery repair (had my drivers seat fixed) that this is standard practice as well.. often used for the bolsters since it is more durable than leather

Heck, even the S2000 has ALL leatherette seats

I use Four Star conditioner... it is a bit pricey, but it does a good job and does not leave the seats all shiny and slippery like some others do

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Old May 6, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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Same here, I use Meguair's Leather Conditioner on my 8's and wife's is250 leather seats and my daughter's Mazda6 pleather seats. The Jeep doesn't get anything; don't want to spoil it.

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Just because one uninformed dude says that the leather seat is "vinyl coated," everyone automatically believes him...ROFLMAO. No, the whole seat is not leather, but it ain't leatherette/pleather/vinyl, either. To use my red/black seat as an example, the red seating surfaces where my butt and back touch are real leather. The black side bolsters where my thighs and backsides touch are leatherette. Sure, some of the cleaners/conditioners are formulated specifically for either leatherette/vinyl or leather. But some leather conditioners/cleaners may be used on leatherette as well. Just read the label on the container. I personally use Meguiar's leather cleaner/conditioner on the whole seat and have had no problem.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bassy
Just because one uninformed dude says that the leather seat is "vinyl coated," everyone automatically believes him...ROFLMAO. No, the whole seat is not leather, but it ain't leatherette/pleather/vinyl, either. To use my red/black seat as an example, the red seating surfaces where my butt and back touch are real leather. The black side bolsters where my thighs and backsides touch are leatherette. Sure, some of the cleaners/conditioners are formulated specifically for either leatherette/vinyl or leather. But some leather conditioners/cleaners may be used on leatherette as well. Just read the label on the container. I personally use Meguiar's leather cleaner/conditioner on the whole seat and have had no problem.
That's a good point - now that you mention it that way, it was always those ribbed (for her pleasure!) sections along the sides that made me think that the seats were not leather. Perhaps maybe the real problem is that I didn't really give the leather product enough time to do its thing. I will say it worked way better than Black Magic leather wipes, but just didn't blow me away like other Meguiar's stuff did. I think it's time for round two.

Of course, I just laid out the $140 for the Mazda seat covers because I dislike leather, but that is neither here nor there...
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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I think the meguiars leather wipes/goop/sprays suck. I hate the shiny look to the leather. It doesn't come shiny from the factory, so why would I want it shiny? I just got some Zaino leather in a bottle for my birthday, and it is GREAT. It smells like leather, softens the seat and smooths out the wrinkles, and it doesn't look shiny at all. It looks like a clean matte black, which is what I want. And it's safe for vinyl. Give that stuff a shot sometime if you're not in the mood for shiny, slippery, greasy seats like you get with the Meguiars
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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But my seats are Parchment leather. I don't want them matte black.

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I think the meguiars leather wipes/goop/sprays suck. I hate the shiny look to the leather. It doesn't come shiny from the factory, so why would I want it shiny? I just got some Zaino leather in a bottle for my birthday, and it is GREAT. It smells like leather, softens the seat and smooths out the wrinkles, and it doesn't look shiny at all. It looks like a clean matte black, which is what I want. And it's safe for vinyl. Give that stuff a shot sometime if you're not in the mood for shiny, slippery, greasy seats like you get with the Meguiars
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Old May 8, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Old May 9, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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The zaino stuff isn't black. it just doesn't leave the seats shiny and greasy. Also, Zymol stuff is very nice too. No greasiness there either. I think I'm giving up on the "Major" brands. I've heard very good things about Lexol, too, but I've never tried it.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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This stuff performs miracles.
http://www.leatherique.com/
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Old May 10, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Almost all products will leave the seats with a shine. It's how much you wipe down after you let the product permeate that you will have a matte look.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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4star really doesn't leave a shiny finish, from what I have seen, as long as it is applied correctly.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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WTF.....it's not leather?????? Actually, I really did think it was leather...cheap leather but leather...so it's really "naugahide" damn...
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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I'm pretty sure only the ribbed portion isn't leather. It's pretty obvious which parts aren't leather.
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Why do people keep insisting the seats are vinyl or leatherette? Its leather people! At least the parts that touch your back, butt and thighs. The sides are probably vinyl and so are the door inserts.
Mazda would probably be sued if they were advertising that their seats were leather trimmed and were actually made of vinyl.
btw Griots leather conditioner works really well and leaves the seats matt. I use to use on my MX5 GTs leather seats. There is no sticky residue too.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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I've just started using Griot's Garage leather conditioner on mine and there's no shine. Great product!

Originally Posted by altspace
Almost all products will leave the seats with a shine. It's how much you wipe down after you let the product permeate that you will have a matte look.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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^ link? i need some of this stuff
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Here you go.
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...C+16+ounces.do
expensive, but well worth it.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Huey52
Same here, I use Meguair's Leather Conditioner on my 8's and wife's is250 leather seats and my daughter's Mazda6 pleather seats. The Jeep doesn't get anything; don't want to spoil it.
I used that before and found it to be completely useless and much too thick to apply. Switched to Leatherique and will never look back even though leatherique is a few times more expensive. I gave my bottle of Meguiar's away
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Meguiar's was ok (the pre-wetted wipes), and still decent in a pinch, but Griot's Garage is now my go-to.

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I used that before and found it to be completely useless and much too thick to apply. Switched to Leatherique and will never look back even though leatherique is a few times more expensive. I gave my bottle of Meguiar's away
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Here you go.
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...C+16+ounces.do
expensive, but well worth it.
thanks you get what you pay for so im gonna try this one
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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^^anytime. Tell me what you think after you try it out. Just follow the instructions and it works great. Just apply it lightly-don't soak the seats with it- just a moist layer and let it sit and buff it out in a little while.
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 02:55 AM
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Meguairs Gold Class leather cleaner leaves a lot of shine. You really have to do some fierce wiping to get the shiny-ness to fade a bit. I don't like the product, but with enough elbow grease it comes off. Definitely not one of their best products.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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A bit expensive, but as all Griot's products a little goes a long way.

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expensive, but well worth it.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Lexol works fine for me. Doesn't get shiny either.
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