No More Oldsmobiles

First off, I've since read on this board, bettercarcare.com and other places that I shouldn't have done this. So I provide this disclaimer:

YES, I KNOW I'M A NOOB, A DUPE, A DUNCE AND THAT I GOT PWNED.

So now that this is out of the way, no need to tell me again. But I do need some serious advice.

First off, the paint sealant is by a company called Commodore Coatings, which is not a national brand. Here is the webpage describing the product. Here is my main concern: They claim you never have to wax your car. I know (now) that this is bunk. But I don't know what to do with this sealant.

For example, their webpage says this:

(And they've got a lot of other stuff like, "The proprietary high mass sealant molecules using mass attraction technology actually bond the wax to the painted surface. In addition, electrical attraction technology takes advantage of the fact that the automobile, because of it's electrical system has an over all negative charge and by using positively charged molecules in the product it also sets up the product to bond with the negative painted surfaces of the vehicle. This is accomplished through the use of two types of Dow Corning silicones, an amino functional siloxane and an Amino-alkoxy dimethylsiloxane.")

With this stuff, I don't know if I'm good to just go with another product like Zaino or Meguiars.

Also, they provided me with a bottle of "renewer" that says I should apply it only twice a year, once in the spring and once in the fall. My dilemma is that I don't know if I want to go that long without doing something more than washing.

Should I just ignore all this and go with something like Zaino or NXT? Or what?

And yes, I know I'm a noob, a dunce and I got pwned. Serious replies appreciated.

markd

Sounds like a bunch of retarded words put together to over-hype a product. It reminds me a lot of all the fitness nutrition products out there that try to slap together a lot of pseudo-scientific phrases to make you think they have an army of dorks in white lab coats toiling away at their beacons and test tubes to find some miracle formula.

If you think about it, a lot of the mumbo jumbo is so nonsensical. Using the engine's negative electrical field to get the sealant to bond to the paint?? That's f'ing hilarious. If that was the case, we'd experience electrical shock everytime we tried to open the door of a running car.

By the way, as I've been told here, Teflon in anything doesn't work unless you bake it onto the paint, and pure carnauba wax isn't as durable as synthetic wax (it melts in the heat), so don't count on these quality ingredients actually doing any good in the area of durability.

That aside, I checked Autopia and couldn't find any hits on Commodore Coatings. You probably haven't done any damage to your paint per se, but I would either strip the whole thing (wash and paint cleaner or, eek, Dawn wash), or even try topping whatever you hve on it now with NXT or Zaino. You might want to post pics to show us what results you got out of this mysterious sealant.

quack_p

I don't know why you're beating yourself up so much. Does it make the car shiny? If you like it, keep using it. If you want to switch, I personally am very satisfied with the results from Zaino.

No More Oldsmobiles

Yeah, I had the same reaction to the "scientific" explanations.

I think I'm just going to wash it with Meguiar's Crystal and then use something like NXT. My main concern was their claim that you did have to wax it -- I didn't want to do something incompatible. But since the no-wax claim strikes me as bunk, I'll just try some of the products mentioned here once it warms up a bit outside.

No More Oldsmobiles

Thanks. I'm basically beating myself up for doing all my research on pricing and options and then not researching the stuff they always hit you with in the finance room.

mikeschaefer

I'd hate to resurface this really old thread but, I bought my 8 a couple months ago and was "scammed" into buying the commodore coatings sealant. I was wondering if anyone else that has had their car longer than I has had any problems with it. I got the full car deal: paint sealant, interior sealant, and undercarriage sealant. The person that sold it said that waxing is bad because it leaves swirls and that armorall is bad for the interior because it dries it out. So any updates?

Coop '04

Whats funny about the statement is the one about combining Carnauba, Silicone and Teflon...Chemically those (or several combinations there of) are like oil and water...

JonsToy

Armorall is bad for the interior because it dries it out. Try 303 Aerospace Protectant instead. Waxing only causes swirls when applied incorrectly. Make sure the car is clean, use clean applicators for the wax, and when removing the dried wax residue use a clean towel.