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Old 02-07-2012, 07:12 AM   #26
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You should take a look at World's Best Wax, they have very high quality wax with 36% and 46% of carnauba wax and natural oils, and a new wax is in the works with close to 90% or carnauba. this wax will not leave white residue on plastic trim. actually i use a bit of this wax on the plastic trim as well.
this wax also very durable

http://www.worldsbestwax.com/main.htm
This is with thr 46% carnauba, i know you cant really tell cause i shot this with my iPhone but you can somewhat see? i've seen my neighbours cat slide off the hood with this stuff LOL
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:27 AM   #27
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If you haven't done it, you might want to claybar first, then follow up with 3M machine glaze, then finishing glaze with a buffer, and then one of these waxes above. They are all good. Give the wax a nice clean surface first.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:53 AM   #28
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There is no best type.. just what you prefer. This thread will fill up with nothing but opinions. Go on Autopia and find out what seems to be the most popular. /thread
Autopia is the last place to go to get unbiased credible information, They will have you buying a porter cable and one of their sponsors "hard to make shine & hard to remove" wax.

Opinions based on experience is more helpful than going to a web site dedicated to sell their sponsors products.

What seems to be the most popular is rarely the best. They are the results of non stop infomercials, via available media.

If you really want to get the brutal truth about a product you can't rely on biased web sites designed to push the product.

Venues like ebay, amazon,sell.com, bonanza, google and others record customer feedback.
Scanning those types of sites will give you a better chance of getting an unbiased opinion of a product.

Also Autopia.org has a history of using malware and virus attacks on visitors , " You can verify this by searching Google".
In conclusion, I agree "it is what you prefer" but I would never advise anyone to trust Autopia, or trust any information found on it.
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^Wow, harsh review. Todd is a pretty upstanding guy, and offers great discounts on great products all the time. Check out the sale going on with dodo juice products there right now, by far the best deals available on that line atm.

I can't speak for everyone on autopia forums. but the reviews Todd has done on products I've used have been spot on. The times I've asked for recommendations on products, he's never gone on recommending the most expensive crap, or tried to upsell me on more stuff.

That being said, my last few purchases have been from OCDetailing.us but only because it's a startup ran by a personal friend IRL, one who's detailing advice I trust 100%.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:53 AM   #31
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I recently got ahold of this stuff. It's a spray foam sealant. Unfortunately I had to test it's hard water spot resistance shortly after (Vegas rain is hard water). Fortunately I can report it really does prevent hard water etching! Unfortunately this stuff odds very difficult to get ahold of currently (only available to pros in Germany atm).

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Old 11-10-2012, 07:31 AM   #32
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Zaino system for dark paint.



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Old 11-10-2012, 07:47 AM   #33
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LOL this is going to be worse than the oil thread.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:16 AM   #34
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Zaino is a synthetic sealant not so much a wax. It will offer great shine, depth and clarity but is more "blingy" than a generic wax type product. The benefits of using a system like Zaino is anti static (dust does not stick to it) longevity (can last up to 8 months between applications with the correct care) and the ability to successfully layer the products on the same day (up to 3 layers a day with ZFX curing agent).

The system takes a few days to do the first time and involves many steps that must be adhered to, however this is first time only. Subsequent applications are much easier and take less time.

I highly recommend this approach due to or soft paint. This will help a little with swirl resistance.



If you are after a true wax then you cant go past Naviwax Dark. Awesome depth and shine and great longevity for a wax. Will last up to 6 weeks or longer with the correct maintenance. Proceed it with Prima Amigo and you will be on a winning combination.

To put it into perspective, Meguires Ultimate or NXT only lasted on my cars for 3 weeks before the protection completely wore off.

The above photo was taken after a wash and QD with Zaino Z8. 6 months after detailing the car with the Zaino system. The water still beads amazingly and sheets even better.

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Old 11-11-2012, 01:32 PM   #35
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I find the paint on my MSM to be rather hard. Taking more passes with the DA polisher to remove swirls than other cars I've worked on.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:35 AM   #36
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i bought a pot of swissvax best of show, i now own a hell of a wax!
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:23 PM   #37
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Mazda Brilliant Black is notoriously soft, almost as soft as Honda Nighthawk black. This is why I went with a sealant to help give the paint a harder shell.

1 pass with Menzerna SF4000 on orange CCS pad with a DA is enough to remove 99% of swirls from mine.

The paint is also quite thin so a polish with some fillers is also a good idea so as not to continually be removing clear with a machine. Prima Amigo is probably the best at this. Zaino Z5 has a very minor filling ability as well.
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I have a small, and I mean very small sample of Swissvax crystal rock. Still debating what to do with it. Only half enough for half a hood, or the trunk.

If you want a really good filler. Try chemical guys glossworkz glaze.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:08 PM   #39
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Wolfgang's paint sealant.
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The best wax product is fw1 it is great 😜
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:08 AM   #43
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Pinnacle Paint Cleansing Lotion with Menzerna Power Lock Sealant on top.

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I've (carefully) used many of the widely recommended brands: Zaino, Meguiars and Mothers. They all worked quite well, and while I never compared any of them side by side, they all did a more than satisfactory job, IMO. That said, Consumer Reports recently did extensive side by side testing and found that Nu Finish NFP-80 car wax came out atop their past wax ratings with an overall score of 71. Turtle Wax Ice finished second with a score of 68. In liquid or gel waxes, the winner was Meguiars Next Generation XT 2.0, which scored a 69. Zaino was not tested. Also note that they haven't retested since 2011. CR tested for the following factors:

Nu Finish NFP-80
  • Gloss improvement - good
  • Durability - excellent
  • Ease of removal - good
  • Ease of application - very good
  • Cleaning - Excellent
  • Scratching/hazing - excellent
  • Compatibility with plastic - very good
  • Price per oz (0.57)
  • Ounces per bottle (14)
I've used Nu Finish in the past and was quite pleased with the results. Zaino might have been a bit better, but considering the difference in price and, especially, ease of application, I'd go with the Nu Finish.

"Before buying a car wax, be aware that premium car wax brands don't necessarily hold up any better than lower-priced alternatives, based on our latest tests. In fact, some moderately priced liquids scored near the top of our Ratings—better than some products costing twice as much.

Still, none of the 19 products tested were good enough to be Rated excellent, with most showing signs of deterioration within a few weeks.

We also found that pastes performed no better than liquids overall, though the two top-scoring pastes were the only waxes to rated excellent for durability. Both wax types had similar scores for ease of use.

We did not evaluate spray-on/wipe-off products this time, because earlier tests have shown them to be less effective for cleaning, to be ineffective against weather, and to rate the worst for durability. They're best only for newer finishes and if you wash and wax frequently.

Thanks to today's clear-coat finishes, our testing shows that even the best wax will probably not improve the shine on a new car. Regular washing is still the most important step to protecting your car's finish. But a coat of wax can add a layer of protection against tree sap, bird droppings, and other contaminants—at least for a while. Most products we tested showed a significant loss of protection within about five weeks. For this reason, we recommend waxing even new cars every two or three months. And if your car is older or the finish has begun to dull, the effects can be even more dramatic. Waxing can fill minute finish imperfections, and waxes that scored highly for gloss improvement removed oxidation and made paint appear darker and more vibrant.

But be aware that the paint finishes on some darker-colored cars can actually be damaged by some of the more abrasive waxes, which can leave swirl marks. Check our Ratings for products that scored lower in this area.

Since this test was performed in 2011, the roll out of government regulations regarding volatile organic compounds (VOCs) has pushed the industry to alter its formulations. At last check, these tested products are still available for sale, but new variations are expected to appear on store shelves. When shopping based on our Ratings, be sure to match the exact product with those tested. We are monitoring the market to determine when it would be best to test a new batch of products."


Finally, as I'm sure most know, CR is completely independent and has never accepted nor run any paid advertising. When testing, they have no horse in the race. So about as objective as you can get.
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Consumer Reports is a redundant dinosaur rehashing the same products year after year as if there are no new products or alternative methods to putting a shine on a car to the problematic application of wax. New finish has been around for 40 years or more and it is not a wax it is a glaze, however it out performs wax on ease of application and endurance. The 60 had Astro Shield, the predecessor to Nu Finish which appeared in the 70s In 2007 VaporWax came on the scene, not a glaze but a conditioner, It too out performed wax in ease of application and endurance with the additional advantage of the ability to use it on all colors of vinyl, plastic and rubber.
There was a time when consumer reports appeared to be unbiased but why they keep pushing the same old products our dads used which makes them obsolete to many us.
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No. Consumer Reports remains unbiased as ever. The test of car waxes dates from 2011, when all the waxes in that test were tested. Results are not "carried over" from prior testing. Hence, if it was ranked first in their last test, in 2011, it's because it was retested at that time along with the other waxes tested in 2011 and finished first in that particular test. Now, 2011 was six years ago, so it's certainly possible that, were CR to conduct a new test of car waxes, some other wax would score higher. But it finished #1 in their last test of nine waxes, ahead of Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 G12718, which came in second, and Turtle Wax Ice T-465, which was ranked third. And CR has no bias in testing. Accepting zero advertising from any products, where would said bias come from? They buy the products they test in stores or online the same as you or I do. Then they're carefully blind-tested in their own labs, and they report the results of those tests. They have saved me a lot of time and money in the forty years I've been a subscriber.

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NuFinish....................

Stains trim like nothing else. Smells like something that belongs in your fuel tank. I'll give the credit that it does protect to a certain extent but that's it.
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NuFinish....................

Stains trim like nothing else. Smells like something that belongs in your fuel tank. I'll give the credit that it does protect to a certain extent but that's it.
Hey, at the end of the day it's just car wax. The fact that you're waxing at all trumps which wax you're using, in the same way that, in the great oil debate, the fact that you're checking/changing oil regularly is more important than the grade you choose.

If you choose not-to-use/don't-like/have-had-bad-experiences with Nu Finish NFP-80, just use some other wax. Different strokes for different folks.
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You all should give one of the new coatings a try. Way less work, and last a long time. Wipe on, walk away.

McKees 37 is what I've been using.

We really shouldn't be talking about nu finish as a best "wax" in 2017.

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You all should give one of the new coatings a try. Way less work, and last a long time. Wipe on, walk away.

McKees 37 is what I've been using.

We really shouldn't be talking about nu finish as a best "wax" in 2017.
It's candle wax or nothing! Much more humane. Do you know how many carnaubas have to die to make enough wax to cover one car?
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