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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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What if you get beat by 1 tenth? Will you change to 285's then?


I like the 285's so far but I can not compare since I have never been on the 245's.




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That would just mean I drove a tenth to slow. Now if it was a second......
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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How do you squeeze 285 in an 8 in rim? It will look funky
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
That would just mean I drove a tenth to slow. Now if it was a second......

unfortunately you have no way of knowing if also he drove 9/10ths slow too, that's why you can't read anything from the results except who happened to be faster, the why's and wherefore's aren't easily obtained ...
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mwood
People are going fast on the 245...
A totally agree with Wood, why add more weight for no benefit. If the top guys in the class can do so with 245's, I would suggest sticking with a proven setup.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mwood
People are going fast on the 245...
and still are ...

we'll see what this weekend brings
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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this weekend should be fun. It will be my first opportunity to meet a lot fo you guys. Unfortunately, I won't be in my own 8, but codriving in the yellow BSP car owned by Speeddemon32....we'll be the ones on the 285's
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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you mean the ones on 285's going slower then the BS cars!
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kwescott
this weekend should be fun. It will be my first opportunity to meet a lot fo you guys. Unfortunately, I won't be in my own 8, but codriving in the yellow BSP car owned by Speeddemon32....we'll be the ones on the 285's
This post is about 285s on BS cars, so 8" wide wheels. You BSP/SM guys with big wheels need not concern yourself, at least not until you can beat those BS cars.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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So baghead, let's hear you chime in. Saw in the other thread that you went back to 245s from 285s on Sunday at El Toro... care to explain why?

We ended up ordering a set of 245s, but we'll be buying another set before Walnut Ridge. So far it looks like we'll be going with another set of 245s. Seems to work for Jason....
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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The 285 Kumho V710s felt a whole lot better than the 285 Hoosier A6s, but it would be kind of foolish to say they're faster/better/best given the results so far. The car was rotating much freer on the 245s for me and I managed to get in a few clean, but slow, runs but I was also tail sliding a lot more and giving it up to avoid spinning in the same turns I had previously

there's still the issue of finding a tire shop that's equipped with four 300lb tire mounters each with 8 ft long crow bars and 200 psig air supply pressure to get them mounted on an 8" wheel ...

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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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That has got to be a joke, ducks don't even have mammaries.
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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try again:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=duck+butter
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Feigned ignorance is difficult to display in writing. Perhaps I should have used a smiley.

Any discussion of duck butter and semi-stiff hose gets a little bit touchy...not that there's anything wrong with it.

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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Any discussion of duck butter and semi-stiff hose gets a little bit touchy...not that there's anything wrong with it.
Now you know why you do not want to share a cabin at the Packwood tour with any of the locals.
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
Now you know why you do not want to share a cabin at the Packwood tour with any of the locals.
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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we now mount 245s no problem on an 8" wheel, no NW duck butter lovers required
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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The shop I used had to resort to Bead Seater and Tire Donut Ring to mount Kumho 245/18 V710 on 8'' rim. Not sure if it is due to the Motoforge rim or the shop itself. In any case, it was anything but a walk in the park.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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it's all in the installer's skill, early on I had places that couldn't get them to seat and just gave up
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
it's all in the installer's skill, early on I had places that couldn't get them to seat and just gave up
The shape of the inside of the wheel has something to do with it too...way harder to get the 245 Kumho's to bead up on my Enkei's than it is on OEM's
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Cool The debate will continue

These results do not solve anything!

http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/2007/event1_class.html

Paul Chrt = 245 710s $257X4= 1028
Chris Harvey = 285 A6s $300x4= 1200
.014 difference in time = priceless
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer516
These results do not solve anything!

http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/2007/event1_class.html

Paul Chrt = 245 710s $257X4= 1028
Chris Harvey = 285 A6s $300x4= 1200
.014 difference in time = priceless
Both of those two got beat by D Stock - I don't think the tire difference was the limiting factor in this case.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by John V
Both of those two got beat by D Stock - I don't think the tire difference was the limiting factor in this case.
I was thinking the same thing, and 2 sec behind AS.... Was weather a factor?
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Paul and Chris are new to the RX-8. Paul coned away a real good run.

DS drivers were last years champ and his very fast brother. AS driver, Steve, is a several time national trophy winner.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer516
Paul and Chris are new to the RX-8. Paul coned away a real good run.

DS drivers were last years champ and his very fast brother. AS driver, Steve, is a several time national trophy winner.
Still does not change the fact they were off the pace, even with 5 runs, and that makes the tire size a non issue. imho


I could see once in a while AS whooping on BS with the right course. I can not think of any type of course where DS would beat BS if the drivers are equal. Weather would be the only reason for DS to strait time BS.

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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I'll keep you all posted once they get on pace.
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