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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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SCCA El Toro ProSolo

Nothing to see here, move along: http://www.scca.com/popup/raceresult...12314&file=244
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Thanks for some real results and congrats on another El Toro win. Was it as fast as last year?
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Yeah, Congratulations Jason, nice driving!

It didn't feel as fast as last year, I liked the courses this year much better myself.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Thanks for some real results and congrats on another El Toro win. Was it as fast as last year?
Jim T
The SD tour and El Toro Pro were the slowest Socal events I have seen. Only on one run, in the challenge, did I ever see the rev limiter. I thought last year was more fun.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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It wasn't straight down and back like the previous events. We used a different area that allowed the courses to turn out and loop back around more like a traditional solo event on a large site. Runs were in the mid 40s, which is long for a dual-course Pro event. I enjoyed this year's courses more than last years

Sadly, the El Toro site will soon become a victim of yet another housing development project ...

and hopefully Jason will have something to see later in the year
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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congratulations!
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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hehe, i see this

T 1 11 Erik Strelnieks 1993 Mazda 3-Rotor RX7 Hoosier 43.846 49.849(1) DNF 42.395 RL 42.101 83.417
Cedar Park, TX Jungle Cat Racing/Hoosie Lone Star 42.352 41.893 42.846 43.795(1) 42.068 41.316 20

3 rotor rx7 repping the rotary XD
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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the 2 rotor on his heels is no slouch either
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8

and hopefully Jason will have something to see later in the year
Like you getting a CLEAN fast run.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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I'm just getting my R tire legs under me after being on street tires for the last 18 months, my timing at the higher pace will improve

not to mention we were only running on those skinny 225 tires
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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I think James, who is quite a good driver, showed that the Team set up is going in a positive direction...now if only the car owner could capitalize, as well

I'm bummed we missed the Pro. I think we could have done well in Prepared, but maybe not well enough to overcome the Lotus' launch advantage...I haven't seen 60', but I'll bet the turbo Elise on big slicks must have been well below 2 seconds...maybe 1.8 or so, on that surface?
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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OT but... hmm.. makes me wonder wat nissan GTR will run under... (can't wait to see em out)
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mwood
I'm bummed we missed the Pro. I think we could have done well in Prepared, but maybe not well enough to overcome the Lotus' launch advantage...I haven't seen 60', but I'll bet the turbo Elise on big slicks must have been well below 2 seconds...maybe 1.8 or so, on that surface?
Damn, is El Toro slippery?

1.8 60' isn't very fast for a mid-engine car.
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no, there is a lot of grip off the line, at least on Hoohoos

however, I wouldn't put much faith on the accuracy of the 60 ft light positioning, I'm fairly confident that it varies significantly from event to event. I was getting great launches/lights and only running 2.2 times at El Toro, but have seen 2.0s at other events. That said, I do plan to get an engine compression check very soon

We're still sorting the car for sure, made some reasonable changes that were possible at the event with more tuning to come. I'm pursuing a different configuration with Nationals in mind, that's the end goal. James' feedback confirmed my own feelings from SD and DKNV also having good improvements on the V710s shows that we've still got some work to do to get the car to take full advantage of whatever size/brand tires we're using.

I'm very impressed with Jason's times and driving skill. He's in a very enviable position of of being confident in his car and himself.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
no, there is a lot of grip off the line, at least on Hoohoos

however, I wouldn't put much faith on the accuracy of the 60 ft light positioning, I'm fairly confident that it varies significantly from event to event. I was getting great launches/lights and only running 2.2 times at El Toro, but have seen 2.0s at other events. That said, I do plan to get an engine compression check very soon

We're still sorting the car for sure, made some reasonable changes that were possible at the event with more tuning to come. I'm pursuing a different configuration with Nationals in mind, that's the end goal. James' feedback confirmed my own feelings from SD and DKNV also having good improvements on the V710s shows that we've still got some work to do to get the car to take full advantage of whatever size/brand tires we're using.

I'm very impressed with Jason's times and driving skill. He's in a very enviable position of of being confident in his car and himself.
Yeah, I'd heard the El Toro 60' times were high, so that's why the 1.8 guess for the turbo Elise...on a surface like Atwater, maybe 1.65 or so? Regardless, the car must launch awfully well!

Mark, try to stop tweaking on the car when it's working, this time

I also agree, Jason's in a great spot...great skills, lots of seat time in the same old friend/RX8 and resultant confidence and consistency...it's going to be a hard combo to beat, at least on two consecutive days
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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it's going to be a hard combo to beat, at least on two consecutive days
Could prove impossible for you... Quitter.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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Here's a link to photos taken by Mako on Sunday: http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/200...osolo-el-toro/

Only one of a BS competitor -- which happened to be Jason.

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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Btw, congrats on beating 'The Stig' by ~1 second Jason.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Here's a link to photos taken by Mako on Sunday: http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/200...osolo-el-toro/

Only one of a BS competitor -- which happened to be Jason.
I am sure he will get the rest of the pics out soon, he is working on stuff for us and GRM first.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Btw, congrats on beating 'The Stig' by ~1 second Jason.
If you mean Ryan.... I might have gone faster, but having to follow him meant sliding in the sand that was leaking out of his trunk.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Congrats Jason!

Fast forward from 1977 to 2008, my beloved MCAS El Toro is now an RX-8 stock racer’s haven. Whoda thunkit?

In ’77 I had a Celica GT/LB and the canyon road north of the air station was all mine!
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
The SD tour and El Toro Pro were the slowest Socal events I have seen. Only on one run, in the challenge, did I ever see the rev limiter. I thought last year was more fun.
Congrats on the win Jason.

Our first race with the new Miata. It is good to see how far off the pace we are, but overall, we were content with the performance given the cars current prep....just waiting to hear that Phillip has purchased his new suspension and is ready to let us at the Konis (hint/hint).

The Miata is definately more challenging to drive. On the rev limiter at four spots on each course, having to shift into 3rd on that first long slalom along the back.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
If you mean Ryan.... I might have gone faster, but having to follow him meant sliding in the sand that was leaking out of his trunk.
Correct. I think he still might have gotten you (by Pro Solo Index), but that was a solid time difference over an amazing CS driver.

LOL @ sand leaking out of his trunk!
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
Could prove impossible for you... Quitter.
Yeah, I have a feeling I'm going to miss B stock...but, the lease is up end of July, which means the car has to be ready to turn in mid July, so running it this year didn't make a lot of sense.
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Some photos of the Hawk Super Challenge runs, in which ULLLOSE participated:

http://www.pbase.com/bryanh/eltoro08&page=all

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