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chiketkd 07-28-2009 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by PedalFaster (Post 3140354)
Are you sure? More grip means more body roll means picking the inside rear wheel further off of the ground, which generally translates into more wheelspin, not less.

Set-up could dial out some of that inside rear wheel spin. Get some custom moton shocks and run some good rebound in the rear, in combination with a stiff FSB and that problem could be greatly reduced.

FWIW, the car Piccione drove was on stock shocks with a big FSB.

PedalFaster 07-29-2009 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by chiketkd (Post 3140565)
Set-up could dial out some of that inside rear wheel spin. Get some custom moton shocks and run some good rebound in the rear, in combination with a stiff FSB and that problem could be greatly reduced.

I'm sure it could, but the comment you made that I was questioning was that wider rear tires would reduce wheelspin. That hasn't been my experience, although I'd be interested in hearing experiences to the contrary.

chiketkd 07-29-2009 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by PedalFaster (Post 3140906)
I'm sure it could, but the comment you made that I was questioning was that wider rear tires would reduce wheelspin. That hasn't been my experience, although I'd be interested in hearing experiences to the contrary.

I gotcha. I would agree that wider, stickier tires *could* cause more wheelspin issues compared to the same car on less grippy rubber. I imagine the same could be said about a grippier surface compared to a less grippy surface.

The real question is, can a 370Z be set-up (within the confines of the stock class rules) to put the power at corner exit on concrete? Either way, looks like we'll all find out first-hand in the next 6-7 weeks... :rofl:

chiketkd 07-31-2009 10:24 AM

I still haven't heard back from Learic, but I'll talk to her this weekend. I did ask Piccione another question and got a response...


Originally Posted by chiketkd
In your opinion, is it A-stock fast (S2000, Solstice GXP, etc) or just top of the BS heap fast?


Originally Posted by leepic
Not AS fast....


chiketkd 07-31-2009 11:07 AM

I heard back from Learic...


Originally Posted by chiketkd
Hey Learic,

I had a question regarding fuel load in the 370Z.

How low have you (or a co-driver) been able to run the fuel load in your 370Z, without experiencing fuel cut? Btw, do you remember what your fuel level was in Toledo when you weighed the car?

Thanks.


Originally Posted by spoolio
Hi Chike - Well, l had a bit over half a tank of gas at Toledo and Mark said there was one time that he thought he experienced fuel cut off going around the backside sweeper. I find that hard to believe but I suppose it's possible. I didn't expereince it myself....probably because I wasn't driving hard enough :)


TeamRX8 07-31-2009 05:52 PM

Do you talk to yourself when nobody else is around?

chiketkd 07-31-2009 06:00 PM

http://jcnot4me.com/images/pot_calls_kettle_black.bmp

See you in Lincoln jackass! :kiss:

TeamRX8 07-31-2009 06:22 PM

sorry, forgot the "j/k" smilie :lol:

mwood 07-31-2009 06:23 PM

Looks like the Vail Tour BS class went from "possibly interesting" to "nobody's home"...:mdrmed:

TeamRX8 07-31-2009 06:33 PM

I thought about hitting it on the way out to the Lincoln Divisional trip, but the bills are hitting for the knee surgery ...

mwood 07-31-2009 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3146067)
I thought about hitting it on the way out to the Lincoln Divisional trip, but the bills are hitting for the knee surgery ...

Too bad...I liked your odds to take the win...:yelrotflm

JK, hope the knee is doing ok. :)

chiketkd 07-31-2009 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3146046)
sorry, forgot the "j/k" smilie :lol:

No worries. Give me some credit though...I try to at least steer my posts away from random, wild accusations made solely to "add to the chat"! :yelrotflm:yelrotflm:yelrotflm

TeamRX8 08-01-2009 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by chiketkd (Post 3146349)
No worries. Give me some credit though...I try to at least steer my posts away from random, wild accusations made solely to "add to the chat"! :yelrotflm:yelrotflm:yelrotflm

:squint: :squint: :squint:


srsly, try harder ...:eyetwitch

rx3oldschool 08-29-2010 04:50 PM

Resurrection
 
Hehheh...I'm bringing this back from the dead. As an old RX-3 owner I'm interested in any feedback on the 370Z in Xcross, this was an entertaining thread, and if it is any indication of the Forum as a whole, it's an indicator of some quality members, so :beerchug:

tmak26b 08-30-2010 09:30 PM

It all depends on the course, the RX-8 might have an advantage, but probably not as big as you think. Still, isn't Solstice the car to beat at the nationals this year?

For the track, forget about the RX-8

TopGear8 08-30-2010 09:59 PM

^Nope..

chiketkd 08-30-2010 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by TopGear8 (Post 3694053)
^Nope..

Agreed. The MX-5 MS-R is definitely the car to have in CS.

rx3oldschool 08-31-2010 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by chiketkd (Post 3694084)
Agreed. The MX-5 MS-R is definitely the car to have in CS.

So the Nissan is still crap on Xcross, then. It is heavy. It looks like the braking and overheating issues have been sorted out on the track, though. Nissan should have had an oil cooler on that thang from the start.

tomsn16 08-31-2010 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by rx3oldschool (Post 3694366)
So the Nissan is still crap on Xcross, then. It is heavy. It looks like the braking and overheating issues have been sorted out on the track, though. Nissan should have had an oil cooler on that thang from the start.

Yes the 350 and 370's are heavy....check the table at the start of this thread.The 350 and 370's are not crap at autoX....Nationals results next week will tell us much more cause there is a good 350/370 showing this year. With the right driver and right course the Nissan could do very very well next week.

tmak26b 08-31-2010 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by rx3oldschool (Post 3694366)
So the Nissan is still crap on Xcross, then. It is heavy. It looks like the braking and overheating issues have been sorted out on the track, though. Nissan should have had an oil cooler on that thang from the start.

It's course depended, I have owned, autox and tracked all 3 of the cars. The difference isn't as big as you think. I can tell you the RX-8 is the easiest but also least thrilling to drive.

TopGear8 08-31-2010 06:40 PM

^I disagree with pretty much everything this guy says...

tmak26b 08-31-2010 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by TopGear8 (Post 3695367)
^I disagree with pretty much everything this guy says...

That's fine. I still have owned all three cars and have driven enough to have an idea on each car's strengths and weakness.

TopGear8 08-31-2010 07:22 PM

Not thrilling to drive would not be considered a strength or weakness...That would be personal opinion.

tmak26b 08-31-2010 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by TopGear8 (Post 3695415)
Not thrilling to drive would not be considered a strength or weakness...That would be personal opinion.

I never said it was, they are just different. I still have owned and raced them all.

TopGear8 08-31-2010 07:55 PM

Just because you have owned them and raced them does not make the 350z faster than an RX8...The 350 might have suited your driving style better...maybe you can't keep the momentum up through the corners with the RX8..So you need the power of the Z to pull you out of corners...

Just a thought.


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