monte

already know how to drive manual, i'm 17 and attending a boston college, so a stick isn't top priority. i have alot on my mind as it is and i often drift off so i would have no attention to it, i'm somewhat happy i didn't purchase manual becuase of this, however i don't want to lose TOO Much performance.

English

Follow the above directions for powerbraking. My buddy used to power-brake all the time....in an old *** Firebird. I remember I would collect the rubber that would come off his tires as he let 'em spin. Monte...you should do the same and take what you collect to your parents when you need new tires next month. That'll be funny.

monte

I've done this:
Pressed break slightly while on the gas pedal heavily, i move slow, and apply more break, yet i do not get the back tires to spin while the front are stopped.

It goes to 3.5 rmps at the highest, but no tire spinning, i've attempted this at least 6 times today, not 1 shot of luck

whats goin on?

Outlaws eXtreme

You're young, new car, and want to race with an 8... want to race?

An acquaintance of mine was pretty crazy when he raced this kids (possibly 18-19 at most, still had his High School Grad tassle in his car showing 2002) G35 on the freeway. Well this kid thought he was tough crap with his ride against my friend's 92 Prelude. Lo and Behold, my 'friend' could careless about his car, and so as I was following them on the freeway watching them race around, this guy "love" bumped him, and the kid spun to the left railing going about 80 I think. Great guy huh? Dickish I'd say.. notice I don't think he's a friend, but there are nuts out there like this.

English

3.5 rpm's....let's go to 7500....It'll break loose.

monte

yes i understand my actions, i'm not a crzy kid, i don't drive on average at 100, i'm a nice lil boy that on safe roads takes advantage and times myself, however attempting this didn't work well for me, the car wouldn't go PAST 3.5 .. tahts what i'm trying to say!

I'd go to 4.5-5 to test, but it won't go that high!


what m i doin wrong :-/

red_rx8_red_int

If you have the DSC off, then you're not doing anything wrong. It must be the smart electronics that the car has. The last time I power braked was over 20 yrs ago in my grand prix. It may be that this car won't allow it without messing with sensors (most likely wheel sensors). The physics are the same--simultanously apply a great enough stopping force at the front to prevent motion while providing enough torque to the back tires to overcome the rear brakes and the traction to break them loose. We all hear how difficult it is to dyno, it may be impossible to do a good power brake. Obviously the AT is rev limited to 3500 if there's no motion. But whether the motion is read from the wheel sensors (if so then probably an easy fix) or if read from the tail end of the transmission (I believe this is where the speedometer receives its information, and if so then probably no easy fix).

monte

damnit, i left the DSC on.. that could be it.. off i go for another test run : )


Damn you all and your sweet manual cars i regret it but i know that the a/t is what will be best for me because of my location/age/and future plans.

Btw i took the manual home for 2 days, yea it was love : )

sazebac

Maybe you've already explained, but why did you get an automatic? There are no tips that can be given if the car is auto. Only one that might help is the one ike mentioned about reving with hand brake on, but doing this a lot will likely wear it out. If you want to have any chance, you'll have to trade in for a manual and learn to drive manual.

monte

thanks, i am a beginner at manual, however i'm not looking to be a racer, just the occational.

Due to location, weather, etc etc etc many many reasons
I didn't purchase manual

SDFLY

Hey Monte, I've read this whole thread and confess that your desires to drive fast/race responsibly are not new to some of us here on the boards remembering back to when we were young and well, not so wise (some of us never grew up either) ...However with the negative visibility that street racing has garnered over the past decade, there are smarter/better ways to get your kicks as mentioned earlier here, that said, please think about how long you want to be "seen" in such a beautiful car and think about all the people out there who would die just to "ride" in a car like that, take it easy, be smart and good luck.

Gord96BRG

What a load of crap. If you have no self-control, then I suppose that's true - but then that also means it's false when you claim that you only race "responsibly".

Anyway - for ADD reasons or whatever the hell you're trying to claim are the reasons why you bought the auto instead of the manual , your answer is simple when people challenge you to a race. You say "I deliberately bought the less powerful, less fast, automatic version of the car. It's a cruiser, not a racer. If I wanted to race, I'd have bought the manual. Sorry." Simple, isn't it?

Regards,
Gordon

monte

ahk, it wasn't my decision for manual, yes i have a lil bit of regret but i'm very happy with this auto.

Location/parents/beginner/age is reasons i didn't get manual.

Anyways, whats this about ebrake o_O? i thought it was pedal break

red_rx8_red_int

Well Monte, have you done the foot brake thing with the DSC off? Inquiring minds want to know. I thought about getting the auto, my commute is 33 miles and takes on average 1.1 hours, so a lot of stop and go highway. I thought long and hard, it was a close call (I will not disparage an auto driver, we all have different needs), and have no regrets on choosing the MT, but I am curouis as to what the auto can do.

monte

well auto so far for me is just dandy, except for its shamefull off the line/start up performance.

After 4 rmps u feel the juices and at 5 it rockets, which is excellent, i love it.

However i don't have to keep my mind on a clutch (i always always always have things on my mind, even when i'm on tiptronic mode i sometimes forget to shift :-/ ).

Its an excellent car, love the engine sounds .

I've had both manual, and auto (manual for 2 day test drive).
Auto was the joice of the parents (cuz i'm new/young/beginner @ clutch) and didn't want the expensises to pile up since i'm going to a quite expensive college (also not so great to learn stick in snow ).

Anywho, its an excellent car, the reason i want to learn how to get off the line better is so that i will feel 10x more confident that not only am i driving a beautiful car that people drop their jaws at but a peice of metal that isn't to be messed with on the street .

Again i'm not a racer, i don't often go to drag tracks (only 2 times in my life) and i don't street race. But friends pull up at stop lights u have the earge to just go about 80 to the next light. I need that off the line to make sure i can boost a head of them a bit.

I've heard the manual is much much better off the line. But when i had it i wasn't able to test that, i was worrying about learning how to drive :p.

TiTaniumRX8

o.k. man im prob. in the same position as you... minus the auto thing (what were ya thinken haha).
Seriously though, I just read through this and sounds like your gunna have issues either way you go.

MY ADVICE is first don’t bring up street racen' here because there are very very few here, and this forum does NOT support it... Ironic they/we/STR's are def. the younger ones on the forum. I know your feelin, and I know what your friends are probably saying... And there are two ways of handling it....
1. race, but what the hell are you doin in a school parking lot! not safe man! Nor is street racen, but find an old closed road/parking lot or sumthen.
2. Find away around it and speak about how cool your car looks :D

YOUR ONLY OPTION IS #2 since you can barely handle the tiptronik mode and you dun care to trade in for a manual T...

The only last thing I think you can do is upgrade, allot. But if you are PAYEN FOR THE CAR like me, it’s near impossible to afford any upgrade while payen it off. And im also not sure if all upgrades are available for the AT because I know Canzoomer's mod. Is for MT only (yay for those who had commonsense when buyin the car!)

AT=slow (so don’t race)-Glow under the dash and box=nice (do it)

If u need to race, then upgrade the car... but research 1st since it sounds like you haven’t a clue about... cars

Who said you need to think about shifting, it’s all reflex to me... if you mind is wandering you need ADEROL. Last.... im 17 in a month. ALSO KNOW on this section in the forum Judge IT did run a bomb *** time... be sure to ask him, he'd know.

Ike

Just a little food for thought...

****no shouting please :p, and don't bash the car so harsly or him/his family*******

lease, just take the car to the dragstrip and see how you do, notice all the other cars there with you and what times they run...

TiTaniumRX8

Why make him go to the strip, and waste gas and money ? Dun be dick Ike, this guy sounds like he obviously knows very lil' bout cars in general since he's racen w/ a AT 8, cant do tiptronik, ect.

I think there's been enough rippen here. monte, just ask judge ito what to do... he has MT though so not so sure.

ALSO turning off the DCS not totally disable the TCS. try doin this man:
1. push and hold the DCS button for about 5 sec
2. look and see if the Car with squigly lines apears... It's the light that comes on when your tires slip.
3. once it has apeared, you have TCS off... Have fun man

G8rboy

Monte-

Not to beat a dead horse here, but you're not going to win many street light challenges with the AT RX8. I drove an auto Mustang GT in high school many, many moons ago, and my dad taught me the power brake method of launching. The rear brakes were crap back then so it was easy to overcome the friction and get them lit up and staying relatively stationary. That's about the only safe (for your tranny) way to launch an auto, but be prepared to by a lot of rear tires.

I'll skip all the street racing "is bad" commentary, cuz you probably have heard it enough... but hopefully you'll keep an open mind about the following. Take my advice and find out where the local sports car clubs meet for autocrossing (you'll often find Porsche, RX7 and Miata clubs running these things) and start attending... but not just to race. Talk to the other drivers, ask to go on practice runs as a passenger, and watch others go around the track to learn the basics. I guarantee you after a couple runs through the cones you'll be hooked, and street light dragging will seem like childs play. My little 133hp Miata can embarass a lot of cars with much more muscle- instead of racing punks on the street, I'd tell them where the track was and invite them to get schooled

More importantly, you'll become a much, much better driver with skills you'll be able to use on the street (emergency cornering, braking, obstacle avoidance, etc), not just how to go fast in a straight line.

-Sean

monte

Indeed, i know little about cars in general. I'm not looking to street race.. i say it over and over.

Thank you TiTaniumRX8 for at least some damn help!


when i turn of the tcs, how do i reenable it (pending turning it off works)?

TiTaniumRX8

haha its snow here so i havent tried it, but if you hit the button again once ( or hold it in maybe) it will turn back on. or turning off the car will too...

as for my advice from earlier... a nice thing that goes both ways (speed and looks... well sound) is a nice new exhaust, check out the stuf on Rotaryextreme.com or any other place... your local Car Custom Place thing can help you here too, give them a visit.

red_rx8_red_int

If you turn off the dsc using a single short push, you can turn it back on with another push. But if you turn it totally off with the long press, the only way to turn it back on it turn the car off and restart it.

TiTaniumRX8

and then there's also "limp Mode"... but you dont have to wory bout' that in a AT i think

RX-jimenez

i just have to say this....i understand the kid cuz at his age, damn....i love to race, by then in Puerto Rico the track Race was to far away and yeah...just one, so every one knows what happend, and yes it was iresponsible but damn was fun....so in this days they are many options, they have like fridays street knights in race tracks, invite your friends and if you want to kill the 8 is yours do it, in a safe place.. but then we have to pay the consecuences if it brakes.. and remember don't tell your friends everything you do to your car...have fun and be safe..

sohcpunk

any updates? did you attain wheelspin with DSC off?