BlueRenesis82

Hey all, I am going to be taking my RX to the track quite a bit in the upcoming year. I was wondering with all the experiance we have on this board if I could get a recommendation if I'm good with what I have done, or what else I would need.

Motul DOT 4 brake fluid
StopTech Stainless Steel brake lines
Racing Beat Front/Rear sway bars
Hawk 470N brake pads
BFG KDW tires
Redline Synthetic Gearbox/Differential Fluid
Rotary Performance Stainless Steel Clutch Hose

Thanks in advance for the advice!

RotaryZZ

Well, I think that depends a lot on your own track experience. How many track days you've done before? I suspect you're pretty new to track event from the kind of questions you've just asked.

Personally, I think you should take you car to the track in its stock form unmodified at least for the first season. This way you got to feel what your car can do right out of the box as well as the various dynamics and feedbacks that the 8 will give you in its most natural form. But the utmost reasons among all is that it will allow you to concentrate on other more important things, like your line, your basic driving skills and how to be smooth at speed. This may sound easy but it'll probably take someone a while in order to reach a more competent level. And only after you can extract the most of the stock car then you should start looking into upgrading it.

Having said all that, I think you should bleed the brake just before the track event for safety reason. Changing the gear oil to synthetic is recommended too if you want the extra protection for the equipment.

BlueRenesis82

That list is things that I've already done to my car. I have been at track days three times so far this year and have been very impressed with the stock abilities of the car. I just want more. The event that I had gone to is speed limited to ~70 mph. The ones this upcoming year are unlimited speed with the option for a track instructor to ride with you if you want. The sessions are 20 min at a crack, with 5 of them in 1 day.

PUR NRG

Unless it's something you forgot to mention, the most important thing everyone should do is get the car accurately aligned. I don't trust dealerships to do it correctly.
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BlueRenesis82

I was planning on getting the alignment done when I switch the tires this winter. Just taking it to a tire place is what you would recommend?

RotaryZZ

>I have been at track days three times so far this year and have been very >impressed with the stock abilities of the car. I just want more.
Learning to drive it at speed is probably what you'll need now.

>The event that I had gone to is speed limited to ~70 mph ......
What kind of a track event is that!?! I can do it on highway myself :-)

BlueRenesis82

It was the touring event at Road America, it was speed limited because 90% of the people there had no idea how to drive at anything near or above freeway speeds. It was more a safety thing than anything else. The ones I'm going to next year are unlimited in speed, and I'm looking forward to opening it up with a lot less people on the track.

Ophitoxaemia

1. if you have brake fade or heat problems, and after you have installed a good track pad, add brake ducts, especially to the front. dryer hose or similar to direct air to the caliper will do it. this is lots cheaper than new brakes and is very effective.

2. save your pennies cuz often people wreck at least one car learning to drive on the track.

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RotaryZZ

Actually the stock brake is very good. Much better than I would expect. You probably will only need to swap in a set of good high performance or track pads and you're good to go ;-)

PUR NRG

Track pads aren't even necessary. I drove at Laguna Seca in near-record heat on stock rotors and pads without any brake fade. Murix has reported similar results at Thunderhill.
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BlueRenesis82

So the consensus is that I need to get my alignment done at a shop and that's it?

takahashi

Depends on your budget.

Motul DOT 4 brake fluid - I will go RBF 600 (it is only AUD$60/L in OZ)
StopTech Stainless Steel brake lines - hmm it does not stop any better
Racing Beat Front/Rear sway bars - highly recommended, best of the lot
Hawk 470N brake pads - if you want to do 20+ laps, but the renesis is good for a BBQ then.
BFG KDW tires - nice choice, last 3 track days?!
Redline Synthetic Gearbox/Differential Fluid - ok, how many gear change will you do?
Rotary Performance Stainless Steel Clutch Hose - better feeling, IMHO, I will do it but not the first.

BlueRenesis82

I'm not worried so much about the money, I just want really good stuff for my car that will last and get me better performance than stock.

Plus I already have all that stuff that I listed, I'm just looking for suggestions on stuff I might have missed or not thought of.

murix

That is just dumb. If you are driving within your limits like any person should be then this should not be an issue. It is a track day and not a race.

The car is fine with what you have. Have fun.

takahashi

These people do not deserve a sports car. Sounds like he is one of those 50+ bold head with a Ferrari 360 driving 40kmh on the road :D

BlueRenesis82

Lol. I'm also looking at doing a gauge cluster on the center of the console, with the gauges from the mazdaspeed cluster. I was thinking oil temp, oil pressure and water temp. Good/bad?

takahashi

Good... if you want. Collect some information on a hot day.

Best Motoring Japan is doing that in their video. RX-8 is included.

I think you should take the advice of the first reply of taking the stock car to track, learn the track with RX-8 and you will appreciate the mod more. That is what I did.

BlueRenesis82

Well, I did do 3 touring secessions with the car bone stock, and I liked it, I just want more grip, more power and more info about my mad mouse motor. More is better right?

BlueRenesis82

gauges

takahashi

Just like sex, the more the better.

Good luck dude and we want feedback and product review.

BlueRenesis82

Will do. The gauges I'm piecing together over the winter, each gauge is $200+, plus then I have to fabricate the pod for 'em, but it should look badass once I'm done. Hopefully my work will have me beating on those f-bodies and mustangs on Road America.

takahashi

suggestion: Fujita engineering case for 3 of them goes to top, R magic case host 2 down in the smoker box, or just buy MazdaSpeed.

The box/gauge cases from Japan, looks good, but expensive. US$200-300.

AlexCisneros

The tires and brake fluid wouldn't have been my first choice...

The tires, I'd go with Kumho MX, or if you really like the BFGs then the KD

Fluid, you'd be better off with Motul RBF600

About the pads... N470? that sounds like the back end of the part# (like HB###N470) what pad are you running? HPS, HP+, HP Superduty or a full race compound?

Like the other members said, you are really only missing a good performance alignment. Coil over suspension or even springs (and another alignment) will no doubt improve performance on the track, but like was said... Even the stock car is great on track

Have fun and be safe

murix

My setup

Kumho Ecsta MX - 245/40-18
Hyper Blue brake fluid
Mazdaspeed pads
RB swaybars/endlinks
RB springs
RB exhaust


Works great for me except I would have used Hawks if they were available and will next time.

PUR NRG

murix, is that "hyper blue" or "super blue"? 'Cause the stuff we put in at my place was super blue.

AlexCisneros, I'd disagree regarding brake fluid. Yes Motul has a higher boiling point than Super Blue, but even the OEM fluid doesn't boil on the track. So why spend twice as much for the Motul?
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