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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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My Auto-x Setup.... For now

Finally got everything mounted, put together, ect.-

OEM wheels - Thanks again teamrx8

Khumo V700's - Thanks again ulllose

K&N drop in filter

Alignment - this is what it is, not sure how its going to drive yet...
camber - -1 deg front -1.5 deg rear
(the guy said that was the most he could do in front)
caster - 6 deg
front - 1/8 total toe out ( 1/16 each)
rear - 1/8 total toe in (1/16 each)

I am basing the alignment specs on my experience with the miata and my neglecting to do a search here. My tire guy recomended an alignment guy this morning, since he(the tire guy) was a little backed up, I went ahead and got the alignment.

This may not be the best BS setup, but it has to be better than bone stock. I'll see this weekend.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Sounds good.... Our car only had -1 front on the first alingment, car had about 500 miles on it. Took it back after a few months and a few thousand miles and we were able to get more.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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What camber were you able to get in the front. In the rear the guy was able to get 2.1 deg.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Don't feel too bad, I was only able to get -.8 in the front and I think around -1.9 in the back. A few people have reported being able to get more with a 2nd alignment or after putting shocks on. I've only had it done once... will probably have it done again in a few months to see if I can get more front camber.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
Sounds good.... Our car only had -1 front on the first alingment, car had about 500 miles on it. Took it back after a few months and a few thousand miles and we were able to get more.
was that after the koni shocks?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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was that after the koni shocks?
Got a -1.22ish with stock shocks after a few thousand miles and some events. With the konis I was -1.28ish. The shocks made less difference than some miles.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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-1.6 LF and -2.1 RF
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Wierd... I guess it will be kind of case sensitive.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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sometimes the details count
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
Got a -1.22ish with stock shocks after a few thousand miles and some events. With the konis I was -1.28ish. The shocks made less difference than some miles.
But your Konis still have the gas charging, correct?
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
sometimes the details count
I see... not trying to pry.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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I'm at -1.3 on both sides with Konis and the car properly weighted. -1.2 with no weight. Car has 42k miles on it. The Konis are unmodified.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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But your Konis still have the gas charging, correct?
Yes, stock konis.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Well... Our event got canceled today due to "military operations". I suppose that's what we get for trying to run on an airstrip.

So a bunch of us decided to go out for a test n tune. Like I have said before, we have a venue that has a skid pad and a mile or so road course. I had some interesting results. We set up a 50 ft. diameter circle the measure g forces. I went ahead and threw on the v700's, which were quite slick at first. I am thinking since ulllose used them for rain tires, they probably were not shaved. Again, I don't know. After I got a little heat in the tires, I averaged 1.02 g's on the circle. The concrete isn't perfectly level, so I averaged going left and going right. 1.04 turning right, 1.0 turning left. That was running tire pressures of 42psi in front, and 38psi in the rear. I tried several different tire pressure combos, this was the most g's. I was suprised at the cars tendancy to push. All in all, it was an educational day.

The body roll of the car was pretty bad as well. I think that some new koni's will help that problem a bit.

The camber setup seemed to work, there was only a 10 degree at most difference from inside to outside of the tires. The tires fit great, no rubbing issues.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by whiterex
After I got a little heat in the tires, I averaged 1.02 g's on the circle. The concrete isn't perfectly level, so I averaged going left and going right. 1.04 turning right, 1.0 turning left. That was running tire pressures of 42psi in front, and 38psi in the rear. I tried several different tire pressure combos, this was the most g's. I was suprised at the cars tendancy to push. All in all, it was an educational day.
Were you using a g-tech to measure g-forces?

If so I wouldn't put much stock in those g-numbers.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Didn't use the actual "g tech". It is similiar though. Not an accurate way to do it? I am very open to suggestions. With those tire pressures, the wear was good, and the temps were good.

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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Any G-meter that just uses accelerometers without cross-correlation with a GPS receiver (e.g. Geez, GTech) is going to get confused by body roll and sliding; this will introduce error into the data.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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That makes sense. Is there anything in the market that can give accurate data without the use of a gps?
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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a stop watch, tape measure and driving the exact radius with a little math sprinkled in will tell you
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