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bmkarr 05-16-2005 11:11 PM

My 8 vs a SRT-4
 
My friend recently bought an Srt-4 and i was wondering how these stand up against the 8 in the 1/8 and 1/4. I am a slightly better drive than my friend, but we are pretty close. thanks for the help

army_rx8 05-16-2005 11:19 PM

um...you could just google "rx8 specs" and "srt4 specs" and see how they stack up :D

i did and got this
http://mazda.jbcarpages.com/RX8/2004/index4.php
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...mid=-1&src=GBT

rx8 Performance*

0 - 60 mph [secs] 5.9
0 - 100 mph [secs] 15.9
1/4 mile [secs at mph] 14.5 at 96

srt4 Performance
0 - 60 Time -- 5.91sec.
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Time ----14.48 sec.
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Speed -- 101.80mph
(mph) Braking 60 - 0 -- 115 (ft.)


note:times vary upon testing conditions..and driver ability (test scores range greatly for the cars....rx8 range from 14.5-15sec 1/4 mile srt4 range from 13.9 - 14.5 sec in teh 1/4 mile)

army_rx8 05-16-2005 11:21 PM

road and track had an article comparing the cobolt ss adn teh srt4..srt4 did the 1/4 mile in 14.3 secs's or so if memory serves correctly. so it'll do low 14''s fairly easy......high 13's if you are good and push teh car. I believe Polak got a 14.3 in the 1/4 mile when he draged it...so low 14's are possible in a stock 8. so ther eyou have it hope i helped out.

bmkarr 05-16-2005 11:23 PM

thanks i appreciate it

crossbow 05-17-2005 11:01 AM

The new SRT4's put down about 230-240 WHP stock. Its a really really fast car. SRT4's compete against evo's and sti's in terms of forward acceleration.

Here's a BONE STOCK SRT4 dyno from flyingmiata.net.

http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/dyno_runs/Neon_SRT-4.pdf

khtm 05-17-2005 11:14 AM

He should be faster unless you're *that much* of a better driver. You'll also have to abuse your clutch...

Gambit 05-17-2005 11:44 AM

You'll lose. Just accept it now and don't bother making excuses to him. But then remind him that he's driving a neon, and it's ugly.

SRT-4 is faster than the RX-8, but that is the ONLY category it wins.

smrx8 05-17-2005 11:50 AM

wow never new they were that fast 230 to the wheels i always thought the advertise the hp around 220

tiggerlee 05-17-2005 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Gambit
SRT-4 is faster than the RX-8, but that is the ONLY category it wins.

LMAO, how true that is.

Dark8 05-17-2005 12:04 PM

Unlike Mazda, Dodge usually understates their car's real HP number.

crossbow 05-18-2005 06:36 AM

Dodge underrated the neons engine for insurance purposes. If you just click on that flyingmiata.net dyno...you'll see where some of the "gem" srt4's dyno stock.

Thats an 03 too...which has less power then the 04's (generally).

249 whp and 289 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels is utterly rediculous for a FWD car weighing 2,970 lbs.

I keep waiting for a rich mazda 6i owner to try and swap a SRT-4 motor and drivetrain in :).

DARKMAZ8 05-18-2005 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by crossbow
Dodge underrated the neons engine for insurance purposes. If you just click on that flyingmiata.net dyno...you'll see where some of the "gem" srt4's dyno stock.

Thats an 03 too...which has less power then the 04's (generally).

249 whp and 289 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels is utterly rediculous for a FWD car weighing 2,970 lbs.

I keep waiting for a rich mazda 6i owner to try and swap a SRT-4 motor and drivetrain in :).

Can't the mazda6 4cyl. handle boost?

SHOWOFF 05-18-2005 04:26 PM

Or you could just wait and get a MAzdaspeed 6.

274 HP and AWD. NICE.

crossbow 05-18-2005 06:09 PM

Dark,

Not particularly. It can handle small amounts. Its the rod stroke that limits its maximum power. 5-6 psi is about max before you start encountering issues with the transmission, over 9 psi and you gotta start watching the bottom end.

The MPS 6 solves this problem through direct injection and a lower compression ratio (slightly lower). The DFI makes a huge difference in temperatures by having a cooling effect on the combustion temps, lowering EGT's. The MPS 6 also has an oil cooler, and minimal piping between the turbo and intercooler, so it doesn't need the same level of psi to reach its expected power output.

Its a nice system.

Matt RX8 05-19-2005 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Gambit
SRT-4 is faster than the RX-8, but that is the ONLY category it wins.

Only faster in a straight line, not on a road course.

RotaryManiac 05-19-2005 05:17 PM

www.dragtimes.com for all the your 1/4 miles times.

High Revving 05-19-2005 06:11 PM

im not impressed at all with the srt-4 its just a boring car made for a driver with tunnel vision. srt-4 is faster who cares has a engine twice as big and a turbocharger

Booosted 05-19-2005 06:51 PM

My Boys Got an 04 SRT-4 Stage 1 Turbo exhaust and Intake, i kno this aint a kills forum but i beat Him,In 2nd gear i just pulled on him winded up about a car ahead of him, were gonna Vid tape our next run, there fast but match them up against a Boosted 8 and were in the runnin

10kRPMS 05-21-2005 12:08 PM

You need to remember the RX is a highway and turning monster. The neon is not It jumps off the line quick but handles at high speed like a Neon, you are comparing different beasts, he will step on you in the 1/4 mile

Icemastr 05-21-2005 07:49 PM

SRT4 Beat an RX-8 at the autocross today, both drivers was there first time. An instructor drove them both too and he turned a faster timewith the SRT-4, not saying it handles better, and I was pretty surprised myself but don't understimate the car as racing is a lot about the driver.

red_rx8_red_int 05-21-2005 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Icemastr
SRT4 Beat an RX-8 at the autocross today, both drivers was there first time. An instructor drove them both too and he turned a faster timewith the SRT-4, not saying it handles better, and I was pretty surprised myself but don't understimate the car as racing is a lot about the driver.

Wow! My first autox this year is tomorrow. I know the SRT4 is faster in straight accel, but I thought the 8 was better in the twistys, I may need to rethink things.

REMillers 05-21-2005 09:39 PM

Tough to say which would be faster on a autox, a few factors to play in there.

Is the course a small tight one? Long sweepers etc.

But the truth is and something few understand is that the SRT-4 can handle extremely well, more so than its apperance lets on. In a 04 or above with the LSD it handles extremely well.

frankcastle123 05-26-2005 05:40 AM

the srt-4 is defenetly faster than the rx8 in a 1/4 mile, but in the other hand the rx8 can drop a pair of panties in 3.2 seconds vs the srt-4 wich usually takes about 2-3 years untill the owner saves enough money to buy something other than a fast toy car...........

kikker 06-03-2005 11:34 AM

Don't hate me, I'm new to the board and have both!!!
 
First off all, I would like to say thank you for letting me be a part of this site. I haven't read that much, but from what I gather, I see enthusiasts rather than punks trash talking each other.
Anyway, I have an 04' SRT-4 and my wife and I just traded a 98' GTP for a left over 04' RX-8, (the RX-8 is her car). :mad: So now I can say my family has both!!!!! (both Red by the way)
My observation has been:
The SRT-4 is a bunch of fun in a RAW kind of way. Aggressive, loud, nasty, and it does handle better than you might think. Obviously it is wicked fast in a straight line.
The RX-8 is an outstanding car all the way around. Quiet yet forceful, sophisticated, yet juvenile, and handling.....WOW!!!!!
No the SRT can't compete stock for stock in that department.
I just think the demographic for each vehicle tells the story.
I'm 32 and all the kids look and give me thumbs up, etc. The RX-8 gets those appreciative looks and almost envious stares from an older crowd....usually.
Every time I drive them, I see/ feel differences. One pulls you, the other pushes you.
I hope this helps any of you with comparisons.
Thanks again,
KIKKER

smrx8 06-03-2005 11:41 AM

very well said


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