Kumho vs. Hoosier on 8" Wheels
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Kumho vs. Hoosier on 8" Wheels
Looks like from the National Solo results in B and C-Stock with the V710s on top I should be able to pick up a set of used A6s pretty cheaply, huh?
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As bad as I was, I believe that I was faster on the 285's than the 245 v710s. If it weren't for coning on day 2, my nationals finish would have been almost respectable. So, I would be interested in your 285's if Barry doesn't want them.
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Originally Posted by Cito
As bad as I was, I was faster on the 285's than the 245 v710s. If it weren't for coning on day 2, my nationals finish would have been almost respectable. So, I would be interested in your 285's if Barry doesn't want them.
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c'mon Jason...'mo tire is 'mo better, right?
I really thought the A6 compound was going to be better at HPT, but I'm starting to realize the more I think I know about this autocross stuff, the less I actually know...if you follow my reasoning.
I'll start running my RX8 on the 245 Kumho and see where it leads...
I really thought the A6 compound was going to be better at HPT, but I'm starting to realize the more I think I know about this autocross stuff, the less I actually know...if you follow my reasoning.
I'll start running my RX8 on the 245 Kumho and see where it leads...
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Jason,
That was poorly worded on my part. I should have written, "I believe I was faster." My times relative to known quantities were much better at Nationals, well at least raw times. They still sucked, but less so. I should strike my earlier comment given that my opinion regarding these matters really should hold little if any water and the comment was not based on data. The results speak for themselves, and your success has proven the goodness of the Kumhos.
I have had multiple sets of Kumho V710's, and they are fast and wear amazingly. At Topeka, they also probably warmed up more quickly. When I buy new in the future, it will be Kumhos, but I really like the Hoosiers in 285's, and if I can get in on a cheap set that'd be cool.
Congratulations on your repeat in BS. You were amazing both days, and I only wish I would have been able to see your runs.
That was poorly worded on my part. I should have written, "I believe I was faster." My times relative to known quantities were much better at Nationals, well at least raw times. They still sucked, but less so. I should strike my earlier comment given that my opinion regarding these matters really should hold little if any water and the comment was not based on data. The results speak for themselves, and your success has proven the goodness of the Kumhos.
I have had multiple sets of Kumho V710's, and they are fast and wear amazingly. At Topeka, they also probably warmed up more quickly. When I buy new in the future, it will be Kumhos, but I really like the Hoosiers in 285's, and if I can get in on a cheap set that'd be cool.
Congratulations on your repeat in BS. You were amazing both days, and I only wish I would have been able to see your runs.
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I ran on the 245 Hoosiers for the first time at Natls. My times for the runs in which I didn't choke were pretty much in the range of where I normally run relative to Jason at our local events on my 710s. Given that the 710s supposedly last longer, I'd probably stick with them.
You didn't miss much, he's boring to watch.
You were amazing both days, and I only wish I would have been able to see your runs.
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Originally Posted by Cito
As bad as I was, I believe that I was faster on the 285's than the 245 v710s. If it weren't for coning on day 2, my nationals finish would have been almost respectable. So, I would be interested in your 285's if Barry doesn't want them.
I can't pass up Jason offer on one of his eight sets of (winning) V710s. Icing on the cake, he's on the Left Coast too so shipping is better.
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Originally Posted by mwood
c'mon Jason...'mo tire is 'mo better, right?
I really thought the A6 compound was going to be better at HPT, but I'm starting to realize the more I think I know about this autocross stuff, the less I actually know...if you follow my reasoning.
I'll start running my RX8 on the 245 Kumho and see where it leads...
I really thought the A6 compound was going to be better at HPT, but I'm starting to realize the more I think I know about this autocross stuff, the less I actually know...if you follow my reasoning.
I'll start running my RX8 on the 245 Kumho and see where it leads...
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The A6 definitely accelerated and braked harder than the V710s on DC's surface, which is admittedly nothing like HPTs but it wasn't because they were 285's, the construction of the tire just seems to have more longitudinal grip. The 285 was something we just wanted to try out. Obviously we had our reasons to run the 245 Kumho at HPT, and the Boxster will be on Kumhos next year.
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Has anyone back-to-back tested the 245 Hoosier and the 245 Kumho on asphalt?
I can't imagine they are close to the bang for the buck of the 710, but am curious as to how they compare, given that the RX8 is an application where the sizes are the "same" in both brands...
I can't imagine they are close to the bang for the buck of the 710, but am curious as to how they compare, given that the RX8 is an application where the sizes are the "same" in both brands...
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Originally Posted by mwood
Has anyone back-to-back tested the 245 Hoosier and the 245 Kumho on asphalt?
I can't imagine they are close to the bang for the buck of the 710, but am curious as to how they compare, given that the RX8 is an application where the sizes are the "same" in both brands...
I can't imagine they are close to the bang for the buck of the 710, but am curious as to how they compare, given that the RX8 is an application where the sizes are the "same" in both brands...
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I ran the Hoosier 245s for most of last year. My opinion is that the Kumhos & Hoosiers
are even. Your driving style will determine which one is better for you. YMMV.
are even. Your driving style will determine which one is better for you. YMMV.
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We tried it on the Solstice. Get the Kumho.
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Not only saves me the extra $$ of the Hoosiers, but also saves me the hassle of changing stickers on the car and trailer
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
The Rodert Davis Racing cars, top two, were on 245-40-17 Hoosiers. I am 99% sure they were on A6s as were many of the top SS/T cars due to the cold temps.
"Any wheel not exceeding the specified diameter and rim width on the vehicle’s specification line may be used"
That's a pretty liberal allowance, but certainly helps control tire costs.
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Originally Posted by Sparky
Thanks, I started to ask how the heck they're allowed to run 17" rims, then checked the rules and found this one new this year under Touring:
"Any wheel not exceeding the specified diameter and rim width on the vehicle’s specification line may be used"
That's a pretty liberal allowance, but certainly helps control tire costs.
"Any wheel not exceeding the specified diameter and rim width on the vehicle’s specification line may be used"
That's a pretty liberal allowance, but certainly helps control tire costs.
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