Clutch drops and burnouts
I've never done one in the 8. I'm too afraid of breaking something. Sure, a stock 8 shouldn't have much problem, but I'm still gun shy. The rear end doesn't look much beefier than the stock one that was in the Miata (Now has a TII back end). When I pulled the stock one, the turning gears felt and sounded like a bicycle chain half engaged.
What RPM are you guys dropping the clutch at? |
1500.
I think I've only dropped the clutch higher once, and that was about 3500 rpm. |
Launching at high RPMS isn't a problem just make sure you basically sidestep the clutch and don't feather it or you will do some damage. As long as the tires spin and the shock isn't going to the driveline you'll be ok. The S2000 is famous for the same thing, most people break rear diffs launching at 3000 rpms and bogging rather than high rpms.
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Sidestep?
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I drop it from wherever.
http://www.mazdamaniac.com/Backwards%20Drag%20Race.htm Its a car. Drive it. If it breaks, don't do that again. |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 1966215)
I drop it from wherever.
http://www.mazdamaniac.com/Backwards%20Drag%20Race.htm Its a car. Drive it. If it breaks, don't do that again. WHat the fuck are you doing!! |
With the doors up. It'll look like a scene from "Transformers".
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YES!! haha. You could dub it so Optimus Prime says, "Transform and roll out" and then we burn rubber. I see an academy award already!
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Originally Posted by evilmiata
(Post 1964910)
I've never done one in the 8. I'm too afraid of breaking something. Sure, a stock 8 shouldn't have much problem, but I'm still gun shy. The rear end doesn't look much beefier than the stock one that was in the Miata (Now has a TII back end). When I pulled the stock one, the turning gears felt and sounded like a bicycle chain half engaged.
What RPM are you guys dropping the clutch at? duh,, na, ~ 4500 rpm. and a bit of a feather works pretty good.. beers :beer: |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 1966215)
I drop it from wherever.
http://www.mazdamaniac.com/Backwards%20Drag%20Race.htm Its a car. Drive it. If it breaks, don't do that again. Let me know if you still need that. |
I do need it. That is just a low-res capture of the YouTube entry.
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Originally Posted by yiksing
(Post 1966108)
Sidestep?
+1...??? |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 1966215)
I drop it from wherever.
http://www.mazdamaniac.com/Backwards%20Drag%20Race.htm Its a car. Drive it. If it breaks, don't do that again. I always wondered how you got all the chicks in your avatars!!:bowdown: |
Haa haa...nice...reverse drag racing...so THAT's why our car doesn't do well drag racing forward...makes sense meow...
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Um... did you just say meow?
Side step: 1. - Put the clutch to the floor. 2. - Rev engine. 3. - Slide left foot to the left side (as opposed to lifting your foot straight up). You should go try it meow. |
Its a pretty common technique. Its call "burning the clutch".
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 1967351)
Its a pretty common technique. Its call "burning the clutch".
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sidestep anywhere from 4000 - 7000 rpm depending on the tire/surface grip
not aware of any SCCA Pro Solo drivers having any issues breaking from the launch abuse |
Well, 7k clutch dumps are not a typical launch for SCCA, seeing as how you will be turning before you have traction!
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 1967456)
Well, 7k clutch dumps are not a typical launch for SCCA, seeing as how you will be turning before you have traction!
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Ahh. Gotcha! Cool!
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 1967365)
Sorry.
WICKED FUNNY PIC HERE... Touche... |
Originally Posted by mp5
(Post 1967474)
Team is referring to Pro Solo events, in which we do launch the car hard. We have a side-by-side drag race start with a short straight before we get to start turning.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 1967456)
Well, 7k clutch dumps are not a typical launch for SCCA, seeing as how you will be turning before you have traction!
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At 7k?
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on high grip concrete with DOT-R tires, yes
I launch at 5500 on asphalt with the Advan Neovas and minimal wheelspin :dunno: it's not what you launch at, it's how you manage the throttle immediately following ... |
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
(Post 1967758)
it's not what you launch at, it's how you manage the throttle immediately following ...
How many trannies are you on (I'm not being facetious). Is this the second or the third? How about the diff? I usually dump around 6200 or so and then modulate the throttle to keep the wheels just above the "grabbing point" until the two meet at 3500 RPM or more. I'm still on my first tranny and diff, so I'm wondering why some have lost one or both with such "drag" type starts. |
3rd, but the issue has been blowing out 2nd gear on the 1-2 upshift, never on the launch
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
(Post 1968202)
3rd, but the issue has been blowing out 2nd gear on the 1-2 upshift, never on the launch
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yeah, I take it a bit easier now on that upshift :uhh:
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I take it, in your racing class a tranny swap is a no-starter?
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yes, must be 100% OE except for fluid
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
(Post 1968202)
3rd, but the issue has been blowing out 2nd gear on the 1-2 upshift, never on the launch
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out of pocket, they broke while racing, my bad ...
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