autoxd first time in rx8 today!!
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dizzy snake pilot
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autoxd first time in rx8 today!!
this car rocks! i didnt expect it to be fast, but it handles really well, and all the funniness i felt on the street was not a problem. there is a little lift throttle oversteer, but it is manageable and not more than i like. you can set up a tail out drift really easily and modulate it with throttle.
id like to see what the car would be like with a little more rear shock rebound and compression.
a nationals-competing DS IS300 was there and i was 3 seconds faster than both the (usually decent) drivers of that car, so i doubt there is any chance we will ever get moved to DS.
my fastest run was after the car got to sit for a little while so the tires cooled down- those street tires dont like heat. the difference between hot tires and cool tires was over 1 second. so bring your sprayers.
i dont see any place where it has an advantage over the S2000 though in BS. but regionally a well driven rx8 could beat lots of S2000's.
PUR NRG and i got to ride with each other... great fun!
james
id like to see what the car would be like with a little more rear shock rebound and compression.
a nationals-competing DS IS300 was there and i was 3 seconds faster than both the (usually decent) drivers of that car, so i doubt there is any chance we will ever get moved to DS.
my fastest run was after the car got to sit for a little while so the tires cooled down- those street tires dont like heat. the difference between hot tires and cool tires was over 1 second. so bring your sprayers.
i dont see any place where it has an advantage over the S2000 though in BS. but regionally a well driven rx8 could beat lots of S2000's.
PUR NRG and i got to ride with each other... great fun!
james
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We had our autocross shakedown run(s) Saturday and Sunday. We took a guess at the alignment settings, mounted the Hoosiers (roadrace compound), and went to see what she has....
The car slaloms REALLY well (way better than we thought it would), but sets up a push in a steady state corner. It turns in initially, then goes "pushy", so we think its "sitting down" on the bump stop, spring rate goes to infinity, and the push starts. We think this can be overcome by a significant front bar (higher spring rate), and a tad more tweaking on the alignment.
Overall, we think this is going to be a nationally competitive car in BS with a little more development.
By the way, two BS trophy winners from Nationals are in our region, so we feel like we have a good yardstick.
Saturdays Results: Houston Region SCCA Results Page
The car slaloms REALLY well (way better than we thought it would), but sets up a push in a steady state corner. It turns in initially, then goes "pushy", so we think its "sitting down" on the bump stop, spring rate goes to infinity, and the push starts. We think this can be overcome by a significant front bar (higher spring rate), and a tad more tweaking on the alignment.
Overall, we think this is going to be a nationally competitive car in BS with a little more development.
By the way, two BS trophy winners from Nationals are in our region, so we feel like we have a good yardstick.
Saturdays Results: Houston Region SCCA Results Page
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Sundays Results: Houston Region SCCA Results Page
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Originally posted by Chuck Clifford
Nice results. Some confirmation of what a lot of us RX-8 owners already felt. It does not appear that any 350Z's ran, but from some of the SCCA results I have seen, I can understand why. Need to post this in the general forum, since your results answer a lot of other question being brought up here.
Can RX-8 even compete in the BS class?
Is the RX-8 a real sports car?
Did Mazda sacrifice too much to appeal to a broader consumer group?
Can the RX-8 compete with the S2000?
Can anybody but Mazda get good times?
Its amazing what a couple of good runs will do to silence the critics.
Nice results. Some confirmation of what a lot of us RX-8 owners already felt. It does not appear that any 350Z's ran, but from some of the SCCA results I have seen, I can understand why. Need to post this in the general forum, since your results answer a lot of other question being brought up here.
Can RX-8 even compete in the BS class?
Is the RX-8 a real sports car?
Did Mazda sacrifice too much to appeal to a broader consumer group?
Can the RX-8 compete with the S2000?
Can anybody but Mazda get good times?
Its amazing what a couple of good runs will do to silence the critics.
Oh before I forget, congrats on the awesome times!
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Originally posted by Speed Racer
I'm just waiting for a few familiar people to start commenting about conspiracy theories: tpryor must work for Mazda, he has a jspec ECU, the competitors didn't know how to drive, a friend of a friend claims to have seen a LeCar at the same track making faster lap times... Need I go on?!?
Oh before I forget, congrats on the awesome times!
I'm just waiting for a few familiar people to start commenting about conspiracy theories: tpryor must work for Mazda, he has a jspec ECU, the competitors didn't know how to drive, a friend of a friend claims to have seen a LeCar at the same track making faster lap times... Need I go on?!?
Oh before I forget, congrats on the awesome times!
The "conspiracy" theorists are the exact reason I posted the URL for the results page, so they could browse the complete results (that was as much as I could post without exceeding the size limit). We were surprised, but we went faster than several Street Prepared classes, and even a Prepared class or two.
There was a former champ (Russ Wiles) in attendance in his BMW (running in BSP). He eventually ran approx. 2 seconds faster than us, but his car is sorted AND fast while we are still learning the car.
We felt that we left at least a second "out there" as neither of us got a run that was error free. We should get another second from car "dialing in" as we go, and we were on road race compound Hoosiers (all of the competition was on autocross compound Hoosiers) which is another .8 or so. Of course, ALL of this will be dependent on course design, weather, etc.
BUT, this car can be competitive in BS - we are convinced. I'll post the video as soon as I can figure out how to edit it down (new camera).
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Bested the S2000?
Bested the M3?
Heck, even bested an Evo?
And to top it all off, you bested the Vettes ?
TPryor, you are da man. Can't wait to see what you run once you do have your RX-8 figured out.
Great job !
Bested the M3?
Heck, even bested an Evo?
And to top it all off, you bested the Vettes ?
TPryor, you are da man. Can't wait to see what you run once you do have your RX-8 figured out.
Great job !
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fabulous!
we were VERY surprised at my times for a completely untested/tuned car. and i was very pleased with how the car was balanced and how eager it was throughout the course even on street tires.
that it still works well on r-tires is great news indeed.
rotaries rule!
james
we were VERY surprised at my times for a completely untested/tuned car. and i was very pleased with how the car was balanced and how eager it was throughout the course even on street tires.
that it still works well on r-tires is great news indeed.
rotaries rule!
james
