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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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2007 SCCA Nationals B-Stock Weights

Since you guys are talking about them all the time here is what I recorded from the SCCA impound weight log. I hope someone finds it helpful.
Kenny B. @ 2858
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Many thanks. Looks like two cars - Isley's and Thompson's just squeaked under 2,800lbs.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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I know when Jennifer ran, in heat 2, the car was not under 2800... When we weighed this year in TX, and in 05'-06 at various pros and tours, I was right around 2830, not sure what the deal was in KS.

The real scary part is Thompson was on 285 V710 VS my 245s, that alone is another 8 lbs less he had. His car must have been on E. I was under a 1/4 after my last run.

I wonder how 92/192 gained/lost 100 lbs between drivers. Seems like this data is as good as the camber numbers from natls.

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Carter's TeamRX8 exhaust is 9 or 10 lbs lighter than yours

drive-on scales are notoriously suspect ...
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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In other news, check out this hot new photo I found of the 350Z:

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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I know at least 25lbs or so of the difference between my car and Jason's is purely a function of "liquid weight", as we finished with a bit over a quarter tank of gas. There's also about 6lbs or so attributable to the wheel/tire combo, as we were on heavier SSR's and the 285 Hoosiers (which actually weigh pretty much exactly the same as the 245 Kumhos).

How Carter, on the heavier 285 Kumhos, was lightest is beyond me...must have filled those fat boy tires with helium

I don't know if the scale was light, heavy or correct, but I think there's much more information in the car weights than in the "camber measurements"
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Great place for my new questions.

A sport tips the scale from the factory at under 3000lbs?
What is the actual weight?

What are people doing to cut weight?

Where is the weight coming off from? front/rear . . .left/right . . sprung/unsprung?
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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The only modifications allowed in B stock that would change weight from stock are wheels, tires, shocks, front swaybar, catback exhaust, and fluid levels. Feel like I am forgetting something...?
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mwood
I know at least 25lbs or so of the difference between my car and Jason's is purely a function of "liquid weight", as we finished with a bit over a quarter tank of gas. There's also about 6lbs or so attributable to the wheel/tire combo, as we were on heavier SSR's and the 285 Hoosiers (which actually weigh pretty much exactly the same as the 245 Kumhos).

How Carter, on the heavier 285 Kumhos, was lightest is beyond me...must have filled those fat boy tires with helium

I don't know if the scale was light, heavy or correct, but I think there's much more information in the car weights than in the "camber measurements"
Your "heavier" SSRs are 16.5lbs VS 16.3lbs. The other item people often don't think about is your magnetic numbers, I bet your stack of stuff was 10 lbs.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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The only magnetic stuff were the numbers and class letters...maybe 2 lbs max?

If you did have all the contingency decals and other stuff on magnetic backing, maybe you could get to 10lbs. or so, I guess.

Which day did we weigh the cars? Day one or day two? We did run the heavier Whiteline bar on one day...
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Some Typos in thar...
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ChopsMcgraw
Some Typos in thar...
Elliot, did you and Rowse weigh in at identical 2,809lbs? I figured a typo got in there to make his weight exactly 100lbs heavier than when you weighed in...
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Elliot, did you and Rowse weigh in at identical 2,809lbs? I figured a typo got in there to make his weight exactly 100lbs heavier than when you weighed in...
Pretty obvious typo. Each car was only weighed once (per class). All the co-driven cars should have identical weights for both drivers.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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Yeah, both at 2809. Silly typos.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Opps! Sorry about the typo. It should have been 2809 for car #92.

Originally Posted by ChopsMcgraw
Yeah, both at 2809. Silly typos.
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Opps! Sorry about the typo. It should have been 2809 for car #92.
Does anyone have an idea what Piccione's '03 Track model 350Z weighed in at? Looks like Glenn Austin got his down to a svelte 3,200lbs which is pretty darn good.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Does anyone have an idea what Piccione's '03 Track model 350Z weighed in at? Looks like Glenn Austin got his down to a svelte 3,200lbs which is pretty darn good.
3151 http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322791
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Thanks Jason.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Our weight data:

2004 RX8 HPT '07 2792 approx 1/8 tank
2005 Z HPT '06 3165 approx 5/8 tank,Track model Z
2003 Z P'burg Pro '04 3038 approx 1/4 tank,Enthusiast model Z

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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 04:21 AM
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Post Thank to you for the help me!

Thank for the help me.
Now I have no problems

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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Please forgive the ever so ignorant question...

How are the car weighing at or under 2800LBS with Mazda listing the car at almost 3100??

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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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The base and sport model 6MT RX-8's weigh under 3,000lbs with a full tank of gas. In SCCA 'stock class' autocross the main weight savings come from running light-weight wheels, single exit catback exhaust and as low as a fuel load as possible w/o fuel starvation.

FWIW, a 6spd automatic RX-8 with nav and almost every available option probably weighs in around 3,100lbs.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wiggum
Please forgive the ever so ignorant question...

How are the car weighing at or under 2800LBS with Mazda listing the car at almost 3100??

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Mazda also said the RX-8 made 247 hp when it came out.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
Mazda also said the RX-8 made 247 hp when it came out.
Yeah...

I wish you could get sand leather on a "sport" without the moonroof...

I'm guessing Shinka's weigh quite a bit?
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
Mazda also said the RX-8 made 247 hp when it came out.
it did have 247 HP when it came out, just not when it came out HERE with revised emissions tuning
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