WTB: used Interceptor-X
05-11-2008, 06:58 PM
#1
The Man
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WTB: used Interceptor-X
I am putting together my Greddy kit and looking for a used Interceptor-X for FI application. Let me know if you're looking to sell or have leads.
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UPDATE:
Ok Folks. Call of the dogs.... I found my Interceptor and a dash display included!!!
yeahhhh boyyyyyyyy!
Ok Folks. Call of the dogs.... I found my Interceptor and a dash display included!!!
yeahhhh boyyyyyyyy!
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Last edited by RXtreme8; 05-15-2008 at 02:56 PM.
05-11-2008, 09:48 PM
#6
The Man
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I believe the Interceptor is the superior EMS for Turbo'ed RX-8's.
I think the AP might be great for a N/A car, but I personally don't trust it for tuning with a turbo. I don't want to have to rely on the MAF that's giving everyone fits, because a MAP will be more accurate for turbo tuning. The IntX has proven time tested results, the AP is still new and no one really knows how to really tune them yet.
The AP works for some people; some people love it and some people regret buying it.
Besides I live 5 miles from Mazsport so I know where to go if I have problems.
I think the AP might be great for a N/A car, but I personally don't trust it for tuning with a turbo. I don't want to have to rely on the MAF that's giving everyone fits, because a MAP will be more accurate for turbo tuning. The IntX has proven time tested results, the AP is still new and no one really knows how to really tune them yet.
The AP works for some people; some people love it and some people regret buying it.
Besides I live 5 miles from Mazsport so I know where to go if I have problems.
Last edited by RXtreme8; 05-11-2008 at 10:15 PM.
05-11-2008, 11:08 PM
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I believe the Interceptor is the superior EMS for Turbo'ed RX-8's.
I think the AP might be great for a N/A car, but I personally don't trust it for tuning with a turbo. I don't want to have to rely on the MAF that's giving everyone fits, because a MAP will be more accurate for turbo tuning. The IntX has proven time tested results, the AP is still new and no one really knows how to really tune them yet.
The AP works for some people; some people love it and some people regret buying it.
Besides I live 5 miles from Mazsport so I know where to go if I have problems.
I think the AP might be great for a N/A car, but I personally don't trust it for tuning with a turbo. I don't want to have to rely on the MAF that's giving everyone fits, because a MAP will be more accurate for turbo tuning. The IntX has proven time tested results, the AP is still new and no one really knows how to really tune them yet.
The AP works for some people; some people love it and some people regret buying it.
Besides I live 5 miles from Mazsport so I know where to go if I have problems.
Well, at least the last sentence made sense.
05-12-2008, 07:14 AM
#8
The Man
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Wasn't trying to offend anyone. Jason wanted to know my reasoning. Perhaps I was too blunt about it.
Not looking to argue about, just looking to find one.
Not looking to argue about, just looking to find one.
05-12-2008, 11:04 AM
#9
You certainly weren't "blunt".
Its just that your argument is completely illogical and based on incorrect assertions.
"(A) MAP will be more accurate for turbo tuning"?
A MAF-based system is WAY more accurate than a MAP-based system. There is a reason that the OEs are using MAF, not MAP.
"(T)he AP is still new and no one really knows how to really tune them yet"?
That's just plain uninformed.
I presume that you are unaware that the Int-X is a Microtech, right?
Have you ever tuned a Microtech?
05-12-2008, 02:04 PM
#10
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Look. I know you guys have your reasons for liking in the AP.
I just don't feel the same about it.
I know it's a Microtech. And no I don't know how to tune it yet and I don't have to know how either. That's why you pay people to tune it who know the system inside an out, like Scott. At some point I would like to learn the basics, but it's not a necessity for me to know right now.
I just don't feel the same about it.
I know it's a Microtech. And no I don't know how to tune it yet and I don't have to know how either. That's why you pay people to tune it who know the system inside an out, like Scott. At some point I would like to learn the basics, but it's not a necessity for me to know right now.
05-12-2008, 05:45 PM
#15
There's a fine line between being rude and stating facts without sugar coating it.
MAF is far more accurate, and clearly the AP is usable for the RX-8.
So what's the problem?
If RXtreme8 wants the int-x, I am not going to try to convince him otherwise. It's up to the end user to research what they want and if it does the job, so be it. And for the accessport detractors, if the AP didn't work, Scott wouldn't be in the process of gearing up to sell them.
....and my engine would have blown up a few weeks ago. I've been pushing 11 psi without issue.
MAF is far more accurate, and clearly the AP is usable for the RX-8.
So what's the problem?
If RXtreme8 wants the int-x, I am not going to try to convince him otherwise. It's up to the end user to research what they want and if it does the job, so be it. And for the accessport detractors, if the AP didn't work, Scott wouldn't be in the process of gearing up to sell them.
....and my engine would have blown up a few weeks ago. I've been pushing 11 psi without issue.
05-12-2008, 08:02 PM
#17
Finally Boosted!!!!!!!
There are valid points from both sides. MM is right in that MAF based tuning is more accurate. That is why I am busting my a$$ to try and make it work on my car. However, the OP is right in that a MAF based system may not work for everyone.
Currently, the AP doesn't work with the PTP turbo kit, the Esmeril turbo kit, the SFR turbo kit, or any of Mazsports turbo kits that I know of. Thats because these kits were built to be used with MAP based EMS's. On June 7th we will find out if the AP can be made to work on my modified PTP kit. Hopefully, it works and works well. But until then, I will be holding onto the Interceptor-X that I have because I KNOW it will work with my turbo kit.
Currently, the AP doesn't work with the PTP turbo kit, the Esmeril turbo kit, the SFR turbo kit, or any of Mazsports turbo kits that I know of. Thats because these kits were built to be used with MAP based EMS's. On June 7th we will find out if the AP can be made to work on my modified PTP kit. Hopefully, it works and works well. But until then, I will be holding onto the Interceptor-X that I have because I KNOW it will work with my turbo kit.
05-12-2008, 08:32 PM
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The Cobb should work quite well on the Mazsport Turbo kits with the new Cold Air Intake. The problem is getting someone to tune it. I am not about to plunk down 1500 or whatever it is for the protuner software, and both Jeff and Scott are way to busy to get over here and make it work with my car (maybe something screwy with the harness).
The Int-x works thats a fact, and if you live in FL, I will attest that my car ran freaking awesome with Scott's tune and the tank of Florida gas I had in my car when it arrived.
The IntX has its quirks and nitpicks, but overall it runs the car pretty well. I am still running mine now =).
The Int-x works thats a fact, and if you live in FL, I will attest that my car ran freaking awesome with Scott's tune and the tank of Florida gas I had in my car when it arrived.
The IntX has its quirks and nitpicks, but overall it runs the car pretty well. I am still running mine now =).
05-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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It does. Already done it.
However, in cases like Slavearm, there are other gremlins to be chased.
A MAP-based system lets you get away with a lot of, for lack of a better term, ghetto engineering.
Mis-staged injectors, vacuum leaks, improper tubing sizes, unbalanced tubing diameters, bad/missing/mis-sized MAF housings, etc.
Understand - the AccessPORT doesn't care which turbo system you have.
However, it absolutely requires that you have put at least as much thought as Mazda into the engineering of the intake path and fuel delivery.
Mazda got it right.
If you start changing things without regard to what Mazda did to make the car work properly, you are just going to spend a bunch of energy back-tracking to return proper functionality to all of the engine sub-systems.
However, in cases like Slavearm, there are other gremlins to be chased.
A MAP-based system lets you get away with a lot of, for lack of a better term, ghetto engineering.
Mis-staged injectors, vacuum leaks, improper tubing sizes, unbalanced tubing diameters, bad/missing/mis-sized MAF housings, etc.
Understand - the AccessPORT doesn't care which turbo system you have.
However, it absolutely requires that you have put at least as much thought as Mazda into the engineering of the intake path and fuel delivery.
Mazda got it right.
If you start changing things without regard to what Mazda did to make the car work properly, you are just going to spend a bunch of energy back-tracking to return proper functionality to all of the engine sub-systems.
05-12-2008, 09:18 PM
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It was funny as hell though when Jeff and I were chasing through every damn wire in the harness only to discover cobb shipped out some dongles with bunk firmware on them.
Thanks for trying to get it up BTW Jeff. I don't know if I ever thank'd ya.
Still would like to know what is causing the AP to not work on my car.
PS: Sorry for the thread hijack.
Thanks for trying to get it up BTW Jeff. I don't know if I ever thank'd ya.
Still would like to know what is causing the AP to not work on my car.
PS: Sorry for the thread hijack.
05-12-2008, 09:18 PM
#25
I wasn't trying to pwn anyone.
Scott knows that I know that his kits are absolutely first-rate.
There isn't, in my estimation, a better looking kit than the Mazsport stuff.
Its just that it was engineered for a particular EMS and consideration was not given to the OE intake system.
Fortunately, it is easier to address the issue on the Mazsport kits than some of the competition.
Just look how long it took to get something functional for the Pettit system.
The point is, many are blaming the AP for the difficult task of tuning it for the various turbo systems out there.
That is like blaming Levis because you can no longer fit in your high-school jeans.
I'm still willing to put money on the injectors.
I might have to drive out there just to get it right for my own sanity.
Scott knows that I know that his kits are absolutely first-rate.
There isn't, in my estimation, a better looking kit than the Mazsport stuff.
Its just that it was engineered for a particular EMS and consideration was not given to the OE intake system.
Fortunately, it is easier to address the issue on the Mazsport kits than some of the competition.
Just look how long it took to get something functional for the Pettit system.
The point is, many are blaming the AP for the difficult task of tuning it for the various turbo systems out there.
That is like blaming Levis because you can no longer fit in your high-school jeans.
I might have to drive out there just to get it right for my own sanity.