Spin9k

Not sure is this is new or not but it had 12-25-05 date. Unfortunate result w/too little horsepower.. but a nice vid anyway.

Tsukuba Battle -Mazda vs Honda vs BMW vs Mercedes vs Lotus


http://www.racingvideoz.com/other/ts...edes-vs-lotus/

XDEEDUBBX

the 8 almost always gets owned in best motoring.. =(

terrypk1

lack of horsepower. yeah. and torque. they need to take a mazdaspeed rx8 to the track.

BlueEyes

The CSL is a sweet machine.

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2

I just got a video of the tsukuba battle between mazdaspeed rx8, integra type r, s2000, gti r32 and an alfa. And the mazdaspeed rx8 well, you got to find out. haha, i'll send it to anyone that wants it because it cant be viewed online for some reason. Well, give me an e-mail and i'll send it over.

Macius8

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Thats cool I'd like to see it tajger8@yahoo.com
Thanks

allmotorRX8

www.step-hen.com, a site by a fellow member, has some videos

Catspaw

I wonder why the 8 always gets pizzowned on Best Motoring, but on Top Gear the 8 can keep with an E46 M3 on the track...

JeRKy 8 Owner

Why wasn't the Elise was able to pass that S2000 towards the end? I guess the North America Elise must have more power than the ones over seas, because as far as I know, the Elise should have easily out muscled that S2000.

BlueEyes

Because the Top Gear time is an anomaly. Times set on different days, in different conditions mean little to nothing. While Best Motoring isn't perfect, it's better than Top Gear in the sense that the cars get multiple appearances, multiple laps, and when competeing, do so in the same conditions. You can argue driver skill, but lets face it, they're all good drivers if they're racing. Sometimes some of them seem to get a little drift happy.

terrypk1

i love that video. i have it too. that is why i said they need a mazdaspeed rx8 to kick some serious asses. after that video, i am totally convinced to buy mazdaspeed parts lol.

JRichter

They do in Best Motoring Volume 17, FR Faceoff. I believe the Mazdaspeed 8 V-II and the Shinka (Sport Prestige Limited) come in the last 2 places against Fairlady Z 35th Anniv., Honda S2000, and G35 350GT Coupe. I'll half to watch it again to refresh my memory.

I wouldn't say these little races on Best Motoring are very accurate - they race in the rain half the time and the drivers often cheat and block each other.

canaryrx8

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if you're talking about the older "revenge battle" then the Rx8 in that one was built/tuned/whatever by Feed (Fujita Engineering), I don't remember them using any Mazdaspeed parts but then again it's been a long time since I watched it too.

IZoomZoomI

I never knew that, I think the advans neovas help more than anything else.

lazi

the battle royal vid with the FEED rx8. won the touge 300 battle. it was awesome. he almost broke the sector time for the course with only 200hp!. it was underpowered yet, the handling was effortless, as they say. but yea. as they keep devolping the rx8 parts. its gonna be awesome.

r0tor

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they may be all good drivers, but its fairly obvious by just looking at their shifting that some are driving to win and some are not even trying...

usually the normal psychological effect is if your given a better car you will try harder then if you have a car with no shot of winning - compare the s2000 shifting and rx8 shifting and its fairly obvious that the driver efforts are not all equal

BlueEyes

Yeah, I said they're all good drivers IF they're racing.

XDEEDUBBX

a lot of its mental, they probably go into the race knowing they have an underpowered car and don't try as hard. but who knows... even when keichi drives it, he cheats! haha

lazi

he cut the freakin track!

cas2themoe

That's exactly why I don't like Best Motoring. If I recall correctly one of the first times they took the 8 out on the track, the guy driving it sucked bad. He wasn't even switching at redline! I'd like to see one driver go through all of the cars and then let me see the times.

cLLcLe

The top gear track is extremely technical with extremely short straightaways. Pretty much, that track is to test the handling of the car.
Tsukuba has a crazy long straight away which explains why the RX8 cant keep up.

BlueEyes

I'm not too familiar with Tsukuba, but I have raced it in video games. It's a short technical track as far as I recall, with two short straights, the longest being maybe a quarter mile. I think it was originally designed for motorcycles. I don't know where this crazy long business is coming from.

RX4life

i agree with a few members.. IMO the 8 is more an autoXer than a full out track car...on small tracks with little to no straights the 8 will shine.. like the custom top Gear track that was more technical to test balance and handling.. but with ACTUAL tracks the Rx-8 pretty much gets creamed because of the LACK OF POWER!!!!!!!!!! now if that car was turboed and had handling mods equivalent to the CSL ( a modified M3) ... then the race would be fun...

i wonder when TG tested the RX-8 and the M3 whether or not the track was wet on both occasions or dry??

Spin9k

RX4life I'd frame it a different way based more on driver skill.

With 'real' race car drivers, like these vids, and on longer tracks, the 8 will get beat, lacking power to sprint between corners, and being equaled by others driver's skill in braking & navigating corners. On shorter tracks, even w/skilled drivers it's closer to even the 8 can make up for many of its deficits. We just can't make mistakes or it's over.

With more average track drivers, who don't know how to really push 10/10s, the 8 will likely be in the top range on anytrack as it is much easier to brake late and corner 8-9/10th, and momentum being what it is, it's pretty hard for others to make up for bad corners / weak braking lost time w/sprinting on the straights. IOW many other cars take more skill to do their best vs. the 8, which has an easier time, even w/its limitations.

Perhaps we're like the bumlebee that shouldn't be able to fly but amazingly does ( I know they recently figured it out, but anyway).