Tein S Tech's...........
I just got these put on so i thought id share....they have only been on a few days and i have only done about 250-300 miles so theyre still dropping.........
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/IMG_2238.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/IMG_2243.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/IMG_2234.jpg |
looks sweet. i envy you guys not having any worries with dropping your 8. what rims are those btw?
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theyre enkei rp-03 with powder coating finish.
What worries do you have? |
pot holes, lots of bad roads, elevated driveway. i should convince my parents to redo the driveway...
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well i live in vegas and there are always loads of problems with the road here, im always going up elevated areas to get intp parking garages etc, so far no probs tho
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looks good anthony...
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thats anet :)
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Yeah it looks good. you should have done a before and after position of your car in the same spot so you can see what the difference is. I'm still deciding if i want the eibachs or the tein S techs.
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i love those rims though. i don't think many people have them too. Nice pics.
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Did you "preload" the suspension first. This is my car right after the install, pulled it out of the garage. Tein S-Tech on stock struts.
http://www.altspace.com/rx8/rx_tein1.jpg http://www.altspace.com/rx8/rx_tein2.jpg |
iwas just going to ask that.......doesn't look like you preloaded......my car look identical in hieght to altspace' car.
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The blue 8 doesn't look that low. It looks like it's still sitting on stock springs. But then again....it's still dropping right? hope it drops atleast about 1.5 inch or so. atleast! The red one sits pretty low.... it's perfect! :)
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what kinda spoiler is that?
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Nah it wasnt pre loaded. I am only looking from my phone but yours looks nice and low altspace. You have 18's in that pic too. My wheels are 19's so i was expecting a more dramatic look. The spoiler is the euro lip spoiler. I'm just hoping it drops more soon.
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donjuan: glad you posted pics, lookin' good!
The height isn't as low as it probably should be. My S-Techs look much closer to Alt's (possibly even lower) Pics are on my laptop at the office, I'll post tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212511)
donjuan: glad you posted pics, lookin' good!
The height isn't as low as it probably should be. My S-Techs look much closer to Alt's (possibly even lower) Pics are on my laptop at the office, I'll post tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by ProjectSE3P
(Post 2212515)
your hella scrapin huh with your s techs!! but its not as low as sprint springs!!!
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haha, gotta boast. lol
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212517)
I'm fully aware they're not as low. A very good friend of mine Speeddemon32 had sprint springs on his RX-8. How does that have anything to do with this thread?
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can you send me ANYTHING that says you shouldn't preload springs?
You say only S-Tech people talk about preloading? REALLY??? Here is one of THE most frequently used Spring install DIY's from March 17, 2004
Originally Posted by synthtk
(Post 287580)
After a long hiatus of messing with the RX8 because of my Eclipse I had a chance to finally install my Tanabe GF210 springs.
Here is a short write-up/pictures of the process. This is my first how-to so sorry if it’s a bit rough ;) Ill try to get a full side shot this weekend after I wash the car ### IMPORTANT NOTE ### If you don’t want to read the whole thing it goes pretty much like any other spring install or syntrix's JIC install how-to but with one catch.... Before tightening the upper front control arm bolts (but after screwing them in most of the way) put the car back on the ground so the suspension gets preloaded and then tighten it down I even took a quick trip round the block before tightening them down |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212524)
can you send me ANYTHING that says you shouldn't preload springs?
You say only S-Tech people talk about preloading? REALLY??? Here is one of THE most frequently used Spring install DIY's from March 17, 2004 |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212524)
can you send me ANYTHING that says you shouldn't preload springs?
You say only S-Tech people talk about preloading? REALLY??? Here is one of THE most frequently used Spring install DIY's from March 17, 2004 i have a buddy it tanabe gf's and he didn't preload his spring and it came out fine!! ask him his name is dominion on the forum!! |
Don: sorry I had to hijack your thread with this nonsense but I honestly feel that if you took 10 minutes to pre-load the springs you might see faster results. Just trying to help.
Obviously Project refuses to listen to me or anyone else on this forum who thinks it's a good idea. (despite it having worked for dozens of fellow forum members) I know exactly who Dom is. Gilbert is a good guy, my buddy even knows his GF. (not sure if they're still together) That doesn't change anything Project. Just take some time to SEARCH around this forum and you'll find plenty of people who agree with my method. Maybe your method worked for you and Dom; that's actually good to hear. (honestly) However, it does NOT change the fact that people are looking at DonJuan's setup and wondering why it didn't drop as much as it was supposed to. Will it drop to it's appropriate ride height after a few weeks or months? Maybe... Neither you or I know the answer to that. What we do know of is a proven method that could help your friend. By continuing to post you're only proving to the rest of this board how ignorant you are in not being able to accept a proven technique or even be open minded enough to consider trying something different. |
i have RB springs and i belive the instruction manual tells to preload the springs. i think the manuel is uploaded on the site some where.
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seriously... not to bring out another s-tech intro, but my friend who i sold my springs to didn't preload after his install. he didn't believe tightening with preload would do anything. his car was left at the h-tech height that he previously had on. it wasn't until 6 months later that i took a wrench and preloaded it. guess what. it dropped.
lets listen to teamrx8 on this one. he knows a thing or two about suspension. the control arms bushings have to be reset to the new ride height or else they'll preload the springs to try and maintain the old ride height |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212531)
Don: sorry I had to hijack your thread with this nonsense but I honestly feel that if you took 10 minutes to pre-load the springs you might see faster results. Just trying to help.
Obviously Project refuses to listen to me or anyone else on this forum who thinks it's a good idea. (despite it having worked for dozens of fellow forum members) im not refusing i just don't see the point!!! how do you preload the rear if you can't get access to the bolts on the upper a-arms!! i could understand the front but the rear!! fuck i guess you have the fucking lowest 8 on the forum because you decided to take 10 minutes of your time to preload lol.....lol...thats just funny to me!! |
HAHA!!!
Project; now you're just proving your inability to read. I never said you had to preload the rear; in fact it's actually impossible. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212535)
HAHA!!!
Project; now you're just proving your inability to read. I never said you had to preload the rear; in fact it's actually impossible. so whats the point if you can't preload the rear jedi!! |
Project: look at a stock ride RX-8.
Where is there bigger wheel gap? The front of the rear? The rear will settle on its own, the front needs help eliminating that god awful gap that most owners hate. (hence why MOST people buy lowering springs; for the looks) |
Originally Posted by ProjectSE3P
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so whats the point if you can't preload the rear jedi!!
do me a favor why don't you come to vegas and preload don's car i wanna see this in person |
damn were just repeating things on this thread....obviously your not gonna change my mind about the preloading shit....and i really don't care but its my buddies car donjuan were talking about....eventually his car will get lower once it settles....i guess its gonna take time....i would like to see this preloading in person to actually believe it!!
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Originally Posted by ProjectSE3P
(Post 2212541)
damn were just repeating things on this thread....obviously your not gonna change my mind about the preloading shit....and i really don't care but its my buddies car donjuan were talking about....eventually his car will get lower once it settles....i guess its gonna take time....i would like to see this preloading in person to actually believe it!!
Stop posting, stop arguing, and take 10 minutes to try it on Don's car. Report back your findings. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212538)
Project: look at a stock ride RX-8.
Where is there bigger wheel gap? The front of the rear? The rear will settle on its own, the front needs help eliminating that god awful gap that most owners hate. (hence why MOST people buy lowering springs; for the looks) believe me i know how how a stock height rx8 looks like...it actually looks stupid...i'm not saying that preloading doesn't work...its just hard to believe when i have a buddie with tanabe gf's that didn't pre load and his car settled good withing 3-5 days.... |
Direct from manufactuer: Racing Beat
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...prings+install
Originally Posted by Racing Beat Inc
(Post 443325)
One more item…. let me address an item that was brought up in a previous message.
Ride height drop – It is VERY important that the suspension components be tightened with the car on the ground – not suspended from a lift with the suspension at full droop. (Since the installation instructions were not supplied, it is logical that you were not aware of this step.) Step 8 from the installation instructions reads as follows: “8. Reassemble the suspension in reverse order, with one exception! Do not fully tighten either of the upper A-frame inner ends, or the shock lower attachment bolt - just install the nuts “finger tight”! Lower the car to the ground and perform the final tightening after pushing down on the chassis to settle the car. This method of tightening is difficult but important - if you tighten the rubber bushings with the suspension in “droop”, the bushings can be over stressed and the ride height will be incorrect.” If you have already installed the springs, simply loosen the attachment bolts and perform step 8. Thanks again for the feedback, your comments are highly valued. Jim Langer Racing Beat, Inc. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
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wanna see it in person?
Stop posting, stop arguing, and take 10 minutes to try it on Don's car. Report back your findings. |
the thing is im getting impatient with it not lowering.....it still seems high and if i can speed the process up ill do that i think, jedi do you have a link to what i need to do again please.........and what i exactly need to do it, like what tools etc ill do it and then finally end this ongoing debate...........
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2212543)
wanna see it in person?
Stop posting, stop arguing, and take 10 minutes to try it on Don's car. Report back your findings. your actually think i'm arguing!! thats funny !! |
...you sound like it
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Originally Posted by ProjectSE3P
im not saying that preloading doesn't work..
Originally Posted by ProjectSE3P
we can discuss that preloading bullshit your talking about!!
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WOW, there you have it Project. Jim Langer himself is telling us we need to preload.
Tomorrow morning, call Racing Beat's headquarters and tell them preloading is bullshit. Here's Jim Langer's phone number 714-779-8677 |
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DonJuan
Turn your wheel completely to one direction. Get in there and loosen the two upper control arm bolts. (very easy to do, no need to go back to the shop) I think it's a 17 mm??? Loosen then 80% of the way, let sit for 30 minutes, retighten and BINGO, your car will lower slightly and the springs will settle within a few days / week depending on how much you drive. You'll need to go to the other side of the car, turn the wheel the other direction and repeat the previous step. Here's a pic: |
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Your car looks good donjuan. By the way i have RB springs, had Tein S, and I belive my car is lower then yours, for sure in the back.
The first image is with RB Srpings the second image is with Tein S-techs |
and lesper is riding on 19's so it's a pretty fair comparison to your car.
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Spring really don't "settle" anyway. If the control arms are tightened (to spec) while in the air, there's no reason the car should get any lower until the rubber bushings start to wear out, or if the bolts weren't tightened correctly. When I did mine, I had the car on jackstands. I installed all the springs and then preloaded them one at a time. I jacked each control arm until it lifted off the stand and the spring was supporting the weight of the car, and then tightened the bolts. My ride height came out perfect and my car has never gotten any lower.
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Ride height also depends on what struts you have. We installed Koni yellows with Tein S-Tech in my friends WB 8. Here's a comparison photo to my OEM struts with Teins. He's much lower than I.
http://www.altspace.com/rx8/ap/ap_7.jpg http://www.altspace.com/rx8/ap/ap_8.jpg |
Originally Posted by ProjectSE3P
(Post 2212544)
i'm not saying that preloading doesn't work...its just hard to believe when i have a buddie with tanabe gf's that didn't pre load and his car settled good withing 3-5 days....
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Jedi54,
Don't confuse me with facts. :lol: Thanks for the pictures, altspace. I'll be putting on some S-Tech's next weekend hopefully. |
Originally Posted by MikeTyson8MyKids
(Post 2212807)
Jedi54,
Don't confuse me with facts. :lol: Thanks for the pictures, altspace. I'll be putting on some S-Tech's next weekend hopefully. |
i, in my morning stupor, couldn't follow who was saying what, but whoever thinks that you shouldn't preload, or whatever you want to call it, it a bit too stubborn and ignorant. the op's car, although it looks good, is NOT lowered like it should if you have tein s. i have those same springs, and my is a lot lower, AND there is NO reason to let the front "settle", especially after a few hundred miles!!! if they were put on correctly, and the bolts were tightened with the car ON the ground, there is no need to let it settle, it "settles" right away. mine was done "settling" after the install, and it has NOT continued to drop a couple hundred miles after the install.
i had a similar fender gap up front after the shop did the install, b/c they tightened it all up on the lift, so i loosened those bolts like jedi posted, and the car immediately dropped, i had measurements -- before it only dropped 3/4 of an inch, and then the front dropped the other 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch. the gap was gone within minutes. seriously, it's simple, takes only a few minutes, and it will give you the look/handling you were trying to get ... if you're willing to pay for springs, pay to get them installed (or take the time to do it yourself), why on earth would you not take the few minutes now to get it right? the op's fender gap is not consistent with tein s springs.... |
Every time I see a sexy WB I think, if only for a second, "would I have been better off with blue?"
Looks awesome Don. I like the symmetrical height, myself - mine's at that height permanently. Yours should settle a little more. Here's mine on 18s, tho this pic was w/in a week of install and it's settled (even with pre-load ;)) a little since then. Install was may 06, and the black on black + shadows makes the spacing a little tough to see clearly - but I think it's easy enough to see there's about the same amount of space between my tire & body as yours right now on 19s. http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...s_rims_003.jpg |
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