elisemk1

Hi,
check out

http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/neuhe...2f5082dfb4332#

for some new pics of the yellow RX8


Stefan from Germany

zoom44

the rx-8 in these pics is the show car from a year ago. the close up of the tailight doesn't have the key hole for the trunk that can be seen in the recent "spy pic" also the taillight is a slightly different shape. did anyone notice the pedal placement in pic #6? the photo has been reversed from the negative, the pedals are the wrong way around. it is still great to see those cars together, even though the "in-motion" pic is just an effect.

Hercules

I did us all the favor of translating the article:

The third caper is called Renesis:
We thread ourselves times elegantly to tax: If vorstrecken link foot to behind the clutch, plumpsen then with the back to the half on the cross-hatched material, to the center slip, vooorsichtig the right leg pull tight and the feet sort. The needle eye is called Mazda Cosmo, is year of construction 1968 and has, as common in Japan, right-hand turn.

The first serienwagen of the world with two-disk wankel engine seems also inside conceived according to Japanese standard: Central Europeans sharpens the wooden steering wheel at the thigh, the two single seats are completely outlineless. Of possible seat belts only two threaded bushes remind. If the engine lets two rotors exult loudly its, a schlabbriges vierganggetriebe 110 HP to the rear De-Dion-axle passes on, then we knock ourselves mental again on the shoulders: Such a technology can come only from the country of the autoinventors, was pleased we complacently in the sixties.

At that time the future of the almost vibration-free circling pistons seemed boundlessly. Today we are more intelligent. And it can be proud on the fact that Mazda files still patient as a world-wide only mass production manufacturer at the Wankel principle. Renesis is called the newest development, sits down together from Rotary engine (RH) and genesis (Greek origin; Biblically creation history). Renesis drives the new Rx-8, a danger yellow in the wahrsten sense starting from the next year. The prototype wankelt yet correctly, is not co-ordinated at present in Hiroshima.

Four doors, but no B column
First basic data: 240 to 250 HP from twice 654 cubic centimeters chamber volumes are to create speed 250. And - you fasten yourselves on - as base price 35,000 euro are focused. That is on the level of the BMW Z3 3,0, which is however clearly more filigraner built, evenly only for two.

Into the Rx-8 against it four persons who besides an entrance of the size of a small car garage enjoy can, fit. Here none must fold, here can one occur. Okay, the head must draw in you something on the flounder-flat 1.33 meters. But the b-column is missing evenly completely, like that the Americans partly still into the seventies made or to Lancia in former times times with the Appia Berlina. A missing column reduces however stability. That should be balanced in the Mazda case by reinforcement, also the seitenaufprall bears the two doors very well: They support themselves simply above and down in the framework off.

But only times the curiosity grows. Yellow-black one dominates inside, on the cast on-comfortable bowl seats just like at the steering wheel. The tachometer leaves the out earlier Wankel admitted rotation Orgien to suspect: broken danger zone starting from 9000, full red only starting from 9500 routes, over it rings again a warning bell. In the same instrument also the digital Tacho hides itself. The short club of the six-course switch lies griffig on the Kardantunnel, under which one brings manufactured wave the strength from carbon Komposit material to the rear axle

Achievement without air loading
The remainder is current technology: Independent suspension all around, in front 225, in the back 245 mm broad 18-Zoeller, lightweight construction body parts from plastic and aluminum, in which the engine in the size of a conventional four-cylinder its intake air schnueffelt flat in front. In contrast to not sold with us for five years the Rx-7, which two turbochargers drove on thirsty (test consumption of 16 litres of super) 239 HP, no more, creates Renesis the achievement without air loading. Reason: The in and discharge openings are not arranged any longer radially, but end laterally in the housing.

NSU in the Sechzigern had recognized, failed the advantages of this principle (filling, fewer fresh gas losses, no more Schieberuckeln improved) already however because of the difficult sealing. Charm material today: Ceramic(s). Thus Renesis is to use only half so much oil, to which Spritkonsum are by 40 per cent under that of the turbo-predecessor. Also the exhaust air should be Euro-4-sauber.

All values, those make correctly curious and for the Wankel in its 38. Give rotation year new vitality (64 the NSU Wankel Spider came). We hope with the large circle piston fan municipality that Mazda came finally on the correct trick.

Grimace

Whoa, I think something was lost in the translation! :D

red_base 95

I really liked picture 9 in that set

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/15256.jpg

It is the 1st one I have seen with people standing close to it. It gives you a liitle more perspective as to the overall size of the car. I would still like to see a pic of an adult sitting in the back seat. I never could get the video from R&T's site to run properly.

I hope the Paris autoshow will provide some much needed information on this car. If any of our European members can go, please take a digital camera.

rotarynews.com

Here you go:



Sorry for the big pic size...

Yes, that is me, and I am bending down to get into the shot, not because the roof is low. I'm 5'11" and had a bunch of room... the only kinda annoying thing about the back seat is the center tranny/driveshaft hump was kinda high, and splits the back seat into two distinct seats. It wasn't unconfortable, I'd just never been in a nack seat with that configuration.

ZoomZoom

rotarynews, how did you get the opportunity to sit in the car?

zoom44

dude, you suck.. er rule, something. i am so jealous. did you sit in it at detroit? how did you manage that? were you able to sit in the front and move the seat around or row thru the gears? and is reverse down and to the right? that is so great! they didn't even bother to bring one to the portland or. show

rotarynews.com

Yes, it was at Detroit, and that's the advantage of a media Pass. That was actually the 4th time I sat in the car in the 2 days it was shown.

I sat in all the seats. The gearshift wasn't connected to anything since this yellow car is actually an empty shell, nothing under the hood, no tranny, engine, all show no go this one was.

I wrote this earlier (on a different board) but it still holds true: Here is a dose or reality... There is currently ONE RX-8 prototype that is making ths show rounds, the Yellow one 1st show at Tokyo in 2001. All others are not fit to be show cars, as they are under construction, not pollished up, and not show cars in general.

It costs over $20,000, sometimes upwards of $100,000, to ship it one way to each show. It takes a good week to ship it from show to show, and have it setup. Lastly, all the "local" autoshows, (besides New York, Detroit, Los Angels, and *maybe* Chicago), are mearly marketing tools for local dealers to show off their current production cars, get make more sales. It is very rare that prototypes are shown at these shows.

So feel luck that the RX-8 even appeared at a local autoshow at all!

zoom44

thanks for the info
by the way do you have any idea where the xmen2 trailer went? it seems to have vanished.

brownchiro

Good one Grimace!! I thought I was missing something.

Renesis Rex

reading that translation reminded me of something....

"someone set us up the bomb ... all your base are belong to us."

Hercules

How do you get a media pass? I'm developing a site now that is news-based, so perhaps that would be a great benefit to have

Thanks!

red_base 95

Thanks for the great pic, lucky b@$&*^%. That definitely helps guage the size of the rear seats. I would only use them sparingly, but they are necessary for my purposes.

On a side note, how did you apply for your press credentials?

Grimace

Rotarynews: How was the front seat adjusted for that picture? Just trying to gauge potential knee/leg room.

rotarynews.com

The front seat on the concept wasn't adjustable... It was set to a position that was too far from the steeringwheel for my tastes (I loke to have my arms bent at 90 degrees at the elbow, better control of the wheel that way)...

So to answer your question, the seat was "far back" and I had a fair amount of room in the back.

rototlewski

when i saw that pic i was like I am not gonna fit back there when someone ajusts it back. THATS GONNA HAVE SOME GOOD LEG ROOM.

Hercules

How was the interior quality, could you gauge it? If it's anything like prior Mazdas I'd be happy, though they say it's of higher quality than previous Mazdas.....