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SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 07:39 PM

Should I trade in the 8 for a Altima SER?
 
This is a serious Question.

I went and looked at the Altima SER yesterday and it is a serious car.

The looks are awesome. Also now with the 3.5 L 260hp engine.

This is the first one here in my City. So unlike the 4 rx8's I would have the first.

I am pretty sure since this Altima is the SER version it can be seriously tuned. Especially since it is the 3.5 L engine. Maybe hit it up with a Skyline Turbo setup. But I dont know if it could fit.

So basically all I am asking for is your opinion on the trade in.

I love the 8 and the Altima SER is insane looking.

Its a tough decision. I was probably gonna end up trading the rx8 in anyways. So maybe I should just get a new vehicle.

Anyways I look forward to your opinions and complaints on my decision.

mysql101 10-31-2004 07:42 PM

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You've got this in the multimedia section without pics... so I'll help out a bit :)

Personally, it looks like a regular Altima, which was never striking to begin with. I prefer a sports car that looks sporty.

Jeffjett 10-31-2004 07:45 PM

Yes.

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
Personally, it looks like a regular Altima, which was never striking to begin with. I prefer a sports car that looks sporty.


Well I am also wanting a car I can depend on for years to come. With the RX8 I am always tempted to just floor it and speed like I am doing the right thing.

I believe with the Altima I could settle myself down and just play it safe and eventually get alot of use out of it.

Anyways in my point of view. The rx8 is a car I would speed in all the time and the Altima is something I can treat with alot of care.

mysql101 10-31-2004 07:51 PM

If you need a slow car to go slower in, then maybe getting a sedan is the right move.

I think it's dumb to trade in the RX-8 so soon after getting it. It doesn't make any sense, especially when you're not moving up to a better car.

You should be taking better care of the RX-8 than a family car anyway.

Also, as you floor your RX-8, don't worry about "years to come", when that time comes, you can have your Renesis engine rebuilt and have it port and polished :) Something to look forward to.

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 07:58 PM

Well I payed $33,000 cash for the RX8.

I just went on Nissan.com and designed my own Altima SER and came out to about $31,000 MSRP.

So I find it as a great deal. I am seriously starting to like it alot. Also another thing about the SER. The Auto version is a 5 speed instead of like the 4 Speed Auto 8.

Anyways. I am going to settle down and just see what happens within the next month or so.

mysql101 10-31-2004 08:00 PM

If you were looking at 2004 RX-8's right now, you could get a 6MT with Grand Touring for less than $25,000. I find that a much better deal ;)

Icemastr 10-31-2004 08:05 PM

6MT Grand Touring for $25,000? What rebates are there to buy it for $4000 under invoice?

mysql101 10-31-2004 08:08 PM

You should be able to get it for $3500 under invoice with the current incentives to get rid of the old stock. Another $500 if you have the college thing, and I'm not sure if there are any rev-it-up coupons left.

Even $28,000 for a 2005 sounds better than $29,000 on an Altima to me.

BlueEyes 10-31-2004 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
I went and looked at the Altima SER yesterday and it is a serious car.

yeah, it was seriously designed to be a family sedan, wheras the Rx-8 was designed to be a sports car.

Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
The looks are awesome. Also now with the 3.5 L 260hp engine.

Awesome, I guess if your into the big bulky family sedan looking look and not the slick sports car look.

That 260 hp is well utilized in a FWD car I am sure, especially around curves when you apply that power and you just keep turning.

Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
This is the first one here in my City. So unlike the 4 rx8's I would have the first.

As important as it is to be there first to own it in a given city, the only people who would have a clue are those astute enough to notice the subtle differences. In the Rx-8 many women notice ;), but hey, maybe chicks dig family haulers.

Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
I love the 8 and the Altima SER is insane looking.

riiiiiight. What is insane looking about it. It is a four door, $30K family car...WILD!!!

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:21 PM

Altima's are sick cars .... I think they have the same engine as the 350Z ? .. not sure though ... or was that the maxima ? , Anyways .. any nissan is nice , even the little sentra , if your sick of the rx-8 and ready for some torque. ... definitely trade it for the altima ... if not , go turbo with the 8

Ike 10-31-2004 08:23 PM

1.) The Altima has been available with the 3.5 for years.

2.) The Skyline has the RB26dett so you're not putting any current Skyline turbo setup in it.

3.) The SE-R is a better version than years past but overall it's still the same car that has been around for a few years now.

4.) It's faster than the RX-8 when it comes to straightline in many circumstances so don't think it will cure a speeding problem. The VQ engine is also a lot of fun to mash the gas on, very nice wide powerband and I sped worse in my Maxima than I do with my modded WRX.
Torque and a wide powerband makes it easier to speed IMO.

BlueEyes 10-31-2004 08:26 PM

I got to ask what exactly is sick about the Altima?

I agree with Ike about the speeding thing.

mysql101 10-31-2004 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
Altima's are sick cars .... I think they have the same engine as the 350Z ? .. not sure though ... or was that the maxima ? , Anyways .. any nissan is nice , even the little sentra , if your sick of the rx-8 and ready for some torque. ... definitely trade it for the altima ... if not , go turbo with the 8

If you're using torque as the selling point, why not get the 2005 Mustang V8 for $25,000? A lot more bang for the buck.

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
If you're using torque as the selling point, why not get the 2005 Mustang V8 for $25,000? A lot more bang for the buck.

You are crazy. There are tons of Mustangs in my town. There are already 2 of the 05's here.

Plus I would never sell myself to Ford inless it was for their GT ;)

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
If you're using torque as the selling point, why not get the 2005 Mustang V8 for $25,000? A lot more bang for the buck.

basically breaks down to this ...
uniqueness / looks = rx-8

speed (torque and straight line acceleration) = almost any other sports car and 4 doors around our price range

but I am going turbo ... hopefully the people are right in shawn's thread for 250 WHP (correct me if I am wrong) ... that's enough for me to stay with this car

BlueEyes 10-31-2004 08:38 PM

Well, I guess if all he is concerned about is getting to the next stoplight the quickest then the altima is one sick car for that!

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Well, I guess if all he is concerned about is getting to the next stoplight the quickest then the altima is one sick car for that!

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lol ... if you havn't noticed , EVERYONE makes fun of the rx-8 for it's lack of torque and speed ... I remember a few times ago in import tuner they bashed the rx-8 in a comic saying it's good for nothing except canyon carving .. hopefully rx-8 owners can stop these comments and go turbo and prove that our cars can go fast ... Let's just put it this way .... my bro can run 14.1's-14.3's with his G35 .... our rx-8's have to drop the clutch around 7000 to get 14.5's ... the G35 just has to launch at 2000 rpm and it runs 14.1's-14.3's. ....

I'm pretty sure the altima has the same 3.5 l engine as the G35 too ...

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
but I am going turbo ... hopefully the people are right in shawn's thread for 250 WHP (correct me if I am wrong) ... that's enough for me to stay with this car

Of course you would stay with the SER.

But, the SER would be stock and already has the power.

Also as to my way of driving. The Altima is FWD. The 8 is RWD.
Seeing as I am a huge drifting fan... The FWD system would get rid of my drifting days and salvage tires for me.

I am seriously trying to keep my driving to a safe level. Because if I dont, my g-parents will sell the 8 and I will be stuck driving the 99' Silverado. Which is not what I really want to be doing.

So anyways the SER seems like a car that would not be a serious attention grabber to many. But once in awhile when you have that urge you can satisfy yourself. Which I seriously hope I wont be doing.

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:43 PM

Oh ya forgot about that .. the altima is FWD ... disadvantage for dragging and almost any type of racing... nevermind what I said .. 8 all the way ... forgot about the FWD ... sorry about that lol


edit : Hmmmz actually ... there is one advantage of the altima .... don't have to switch to snow tires when it snows .... huge hassle ...


edit again: crap you live in texas! , go rx-8 ! lol


hmmmz ... I still think you would drive like you did with the 8 no matter what car you have ... I do it in my mom's coke van when I am bored. ......

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
I'm pretty sure the altima has the same 3.5 l engine as the G35 too ...

Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. I seriously did not realize that.

I was looking at G35's before I purchased the 8. So we found another reason why the Altima SER is another attention grabber to me. I dont like really small cars or really big cars. But this Altima seems just right to fit my attitude that I am aiming torwards.

Oh yeah. The G35 6 speed can have a GReddy Turbo set up on it. So if I get the 6 Speed Altima I could do some serious tuning to it if I decided to years to come. But I doubt I would get the 6 speed. Probably just settle with the 5 Speed Auto and leave it at that.

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. I seriously did not realize that.

I was looking at G35's before I purchased the 8. So we found another reason why the Altima SER is another attention grabber to me. I dont like really small cars or really big cars. But this Altima seems just right to fit my attitude that I am aiming torwards.

Oh yeah. The G35 6 speed can have a GReddy Turbo set up on it. So if I get the 6 Speed Altima I could do some serious tuning to it if I decided to years to come. But I doubt I would get the 6 speed. Probably just settle with the 5 Speed Auto and leave it at that.

Starting to get confused ... sorry for all the edits , but hmmz the altima is not a bad car at all .. 3.5 litter same as G35 ... definitely can do alot of modding , I think you would be happy with it in the long run, sorry to ask this , but what is your age ? If your close to the age of having kids .. defintiely get the altima ... I had to put a kid in my back seat once and a baby chair .. it sucked ....

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
hmmmz ... I still think you would drive like you did with the 8 no matter what car you have ... I do it in my mom's coke van when I am bored. ......

LOL you drive crazy in a Van?

Which brings me to this last Saturday. My friend had his 04' Sentra SE-R Spec V over here. I had recently purchased a $150 Dynomax muffler for him. I got a real good deal on it too. Bought the thing for $20. So we had it installed and my other friends mom came to pick him up. She was like what the hell are you doing with that thing on that car! Unexpectedly she revved her "VAN" up and took off! I was like HOLY SHIT his mom is crazy! So this all turned out to be a street race in my freaking neighborhood.

So you never know about your friends moms.

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
Starting to get confused ... sorry for all the edits , but hmmz the altima is not a bad car at all .. 3.5 litter same as G35 ... definitely can do alot of modding , I think you would be happy with it in the long run, sorry to ask this , but what is your age ? If your close to the age of having kids .. defintiely get the altima ... I had to put a kid in my back seat once and a baby chair .. it sucked ....


I am 16 since May 4, 2004. So yeah I might seem retarded for wanting the Altima but call me crazy. Its a definite want in my wishlist!

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:55 PM

lmao , funny stuff ....

vans are crazy to play around with ... their suspensions are so loose that its so easy to spin the tail of the car out ....

you take the altima for a test drive yet ? It should feel alot different than your car ... the altimas got alot more torque .... drove my brother's G35 and man ... different ... the clutch pedal has a shorter distance too ... catches on alot more quicker ... overall the feel of the car feels a step higher than the 8. The interior is a different story .... feels more family car-ish while the 8 feels like a refined sports car

mysql101 10-31-2004 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
lol ... if you havn't noticed , EVERYONE makes fun of the rx-8 for it's lack of torque and speed ... I remember a few times ago in import tuner they bashed the rx-8 in a comic saying it's good for nothing except canyon carving .. hopefully rx-8 owners can stop these comments and go turbo and prove that our cars can go fast ...

I've never understood that. This car is much quicker than a Miata, but I don't hear people complaining about it's speed. The RX-8 isn't a slow car, it just isn't a drag car, but people seem unable to comprehend the difference.

Stop light racing is for idiots who want a future in prison after they wreck and kill an innocent family.

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
I've never understood that. This car is much quicker than a Miata, but I don't hear people complaining about it's speed. The RX-8 isn't a slow car, it just isn't a drag car, but people seem unable to comprehend the difference.

Stop light racing is for idiots who want a future in prison after they wreck and kill an innocent family.

I never stop light race dude ... I goto the blank.... it's pretty bad when you get beat by a pontiac fierro ....

mysql101 10-31-2004 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
I never stop light race dude ... I goto the track.... it's pretty bad when you get beat by a pontiac fierro ....

That is the understood nature of a sedan with more torque. He's not going to be autocrossing with it.

Look at what impresed him about the car:

I went and looked at the Altima SER yesterday and it is a serious car.

The looks are awesome. Also now with the 3.5 L 260hp engine.

This is the first one here in my City. So unlike the 4 rx8's I would have the first.

I am pretty sure since this Altima is the SER version it can be seriously tuned. Especially since it is the 3.5 L engine. Maybe hit it up with a Skyline Turbo setup. But I dont know if it could fit.

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
lmao , funny stuff ....

vans are crazy to play around with ... their suspensions are so loose that its so easy to spin the tail of the car out ....

you take the altima for a test drive yet ? It should feel alot different than your car ... the altimas got alot more torque .... drove my brother's G35 and man ... different ... the clutch pedal has a shorter distance too ... catches on alot more quicker ... overall the feel of the car feels a step higher than the 8. The interior is a different story .... feels more family car-ish while the 8 feels like a refined sports car

Well why dont you hook us up with a video of you in her van! Seems like it would be interesting to watch.

I havent test drove the Altima SER yet because they simply would not let me till they saw proof of ownership on my rx8. Only reason I was not driving the 8 is because I put it in the shop over the weekend to get a checkup on all the stuff. So tomorrow (monday) I plan on driving across the street to test drive it. Yup Mazda and Nissan and Honda/Volvo are directly across from each other. Talk about competition.

titaniumgrey 10-31-2004 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
That is the understood nature of a sedan with more torque. He's not going to be autocrossing with it.

pontiac fierro is a 2 door 2 seater, anyways , true , most cars can't keep up with our cars during autocross

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by titaniumgrey
pontiac fierro is a 2 door 2 seater, anyways , true , most cars can't keep up with our cars during autocross

What the hell! You should have no probems with any cars that come into competition with a Mustang GT. I have beaten about 8 of them all the way up to 125mph. And I have the 4 Speed Auto 8!

So I have no clue as to what happened with that but it should not have happened.

mysql101 10-31-2004 09:03 PM

Still, I don't see the logic in this. The Altima SE-R is front wheel drive and weights 300 lbs more than the RX-8.

Ike 10-31-2004 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
What the hell! You should have no probems with any cars that come into competition with a Mustang GT. I have beaten about 8 of them all the way up to 125mph. And I have the 4 Speed Auto 8!

So I have no clue as to what happened with that but it should not have happened.


I thought you were leaving the forum? Do us all a favor and get another car (non Subaru) and be gone. I just feel sorry for the other forum that ends up with you, but I think you would fit in rather nicely with the ClubRSX boys.

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
I thought you were leaving the forum? Do us all a favor and get another car (non Subaru) and be gone. I just feel sorry for the other forum that ends up with you, but I think you would fit in rather nicely with the ClubRSX boys.


What exactly is your problem with me? I have done nothing to you.

slllygrl10 10-31-2004 09:15 PM

I never like altima's I would rather go for the maxima they look soo nice but they're big compare to the 8.....

Ike 10-31-2004 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
What exactly is your problem with me? I have done nothing to you.

You posted in the wrong section which gives me much hatred for you.

slllygrl10 10-31-2004 09:21 PM

SIMPLEXEFFECT, go ahead and trade your 8 in for the altima SER, cuz I dont care. Someone will be happy when he/she gets to purchase your car...who is gonna be the lucky owner!

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
You posted in the wrong section which gives me much hatred for you.

Well I am sorry for it. I am 100% sure it was an accident.

Ike 10-31-2004 09:22 PM

I wish you weren't a liar!

rev-2-9k 10-31-2004 09:28 PM

Ike just wants his post count up otherwise he could make a point with one post.

Ike 10-31-2004 09:29 PM

Yeah, I never actually have content in my posts or makes points.

rev-2-9k 10-31-2004 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Yeah, I never actually have content in my posts or makes points.

I find it odd that I agree with him.

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 09:33 PM

I dont care about my post count. All it determines is how active you are on the boards.

Ike 10-31-2004 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by rev-2-9k
I find it odd that I agree with him.

To bad you're just some noob with less than 200 posts or your opinion would actually matter. :(

mysql101 10-31-2004 09:45 PM

My opinion matters. Someone ask me something, quick.

Mugatu 10-31-2004 09:46 PM

for the love of god close this thread.

Ike 10-31-2004 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
My opinion matters. Someone ask me something, quick.

Yes, you qualify.


Who is Terra and why is Bush so affraid of her?

irish8 10-31-2004 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
Plus I would never sell myself to Ford

You already did!! Mazda is a Ford affiliate.

- Irish :cool:

SimplexEffect 10-31-2004 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
To bad you're just some noob with less than 200 posts or your opinion would actually matter. :(

I see you qualify people by how many posts they have. Atleast we dont make a-hole posts like you do.

mysql101 10-31-2004 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Yes, you qualify.


Who is Terra and why is Bush so affraid of her?

No, it has to be on topic. So limit the questions to The Nissan Altima, a car which I have no knowledge of at all.


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