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Old 08-29-2008, 02:51 PM
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I like your M-speed wing better :P
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Originally Posted by lxlxlxl_saki_lxlxlxl
so is it like buying a Lancer RS same as buying a Lancer EVO X?
you act like those wheels came with a turbo ...what is the difference, wow stickers!!!! does that mean advan wheels are faster than rotas?

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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
you act like those wheels came with a turbo ...what is the difference, wow stickers!!!! does that mean advan wheels are faster than rotas?
you act like the VIS Magnum kit and the Authentic Mazdaspeed kit are identical in every way.
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
you act like those wheels came with a turbo ...what is the difference, wow stickers!!!! does that mean advan wheels are faster than rotas?
They are lighter, stronger, retain value, have quality control, a better manufacturing process, better paint, etc. I could go on forever.

If you have ever looked at how many weights it takes to balance a knockoff versus genuine wheels, you will see the difference in quality.

Many authentic wheels are forged and when you take the same design and produce it in a casting process, it'll be weak and fragile in comparison. Have you seen the many pictures of the wheel face being split from the actual barrel? It's because there is no R&D behind the build of the wheel. You can't take a forged design with thin spokes and expect the same results with a cast wheel. The structural integrity and behavior of the wheels when it is put in a position to be damaged is unpredictable. It's things like this that make up the "difference" when you say they are the same minus stickers.

You know the real reason why authentic wheels cost as much as they do. It's because of people like you who support knockoff companies who don't have an R&D team that blueprints and tests their wheels + manufacturing process.

Do you wear counterfeit shirts, jeans, shoes, and watches? It's the same thing as putting fake wheels on your car. The fact is, you'd always be faking the funk no matter what your argument is.


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Originally Posted by alexisthemovie
They are lighter, stronger, retain value, have quality control, a better manufacturing process, better paint, etc. I could go on forever.

If you have ever looked at how many weights it takes to balance a knockoff versus genuine wheels, you will see the difference in quality.

Many authentic wheels are forged and when you take the same design and produce it in a casting process, it'll be weak and fragile in comparison. Have you seen the many pictures of the wheel face being split from the actual barrel? It's because there is no R&D behind the build of the wheel. You can't take a forged design with thin spokes and expect the same results with a cast wheel. The structural integrity and behavior of the wheels when it is put in a position to be damaged is unpredictable. It's things like this that make up the "difference" when you say they are the same minus stickers.

You know the real reason why authentic wheels cost as much as they do. It's because of people like you who support knockoff companies who don't have an R&D team that blueprints and tests their wheels + manufacturing process.

Do you wear counterfeit shirts, jeans, shoes, and watches? It's the same thing as putting fake wheels on your car. The fact is, you'd always be faking the funk no matter what your argument is.


dude that pic was from like years ago, could of been photoshopped, wheres the lawsuit why is rota still around if this had happen???? dont believe everything you see on the interenet things can be easily fixed these days, show me something that you didnt get off surfing the internet....
keep going on and on i wanna see you run into a wall and tell me if those high quality wheels will save you???or race a stock vs stock 8 one with rotas and one with advans see witch is faster....prove to me on a track that the high priced wheels are worth the cost and if i get high priced wheels will that gaurantee me a spot on a magazine or automatically win me a car show or a race??? you know and i know that we both seen cars with rotas on front covers of magazines....
about the shirts, jeans , shoes, ect..... aye if it looks good why not...i was not raised with a silver spoon in my mouth...all my stuff has my blood sweat and tears on it fake or not. for those of you that know me can easily see where im coming from...

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Originally Posted by tiltmode43
you act like the VIS Magnum kit and the Authentic Mazdaspeed kit are identical in every way.
and you act like you were in this coversation!!!!
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Originally Posted by alexisthemovie
They are lighter, stronger, retain value, have quality control, a better manufacturing process, better paint, etc. I could go on forever.

If you have ever looked at how many weights it takes to balance a knockoff versus genuine wheels, you will see the difference in quality.

Many authentic wheels are forged and when you take the same design and produce it in a casting process, it'll be weak and fragile in comparison. Have you seen the many pictures of the wheel face being split from the actual barrel? It's because there is no R&D behind the build of the wheel. You can't take a forged design with thin spokes and expect the same results with a cast wheel. The structural integrity and behavior of the wheels when it is put in a position to be damaged is unpredictable. It's things like this that make up the "difference" when you say they are the same minus stickers.

You know the real reason why authentic wheels cost as much as they do. It's because of people like you who support knockoff companies who don't have an R&D team that blueprints and tests their wheels + manufacturing process.

Do you wear counterfeit shirts, jeans, shoes, and watches? It's the same thing as putting fake wheels on your car. The fact is, you'd always be faking the funk no matter what your argument is.

hey homie remember this issue of dsport mag with the article with rb products tested on a rx8, look at the front cover dude its rocking rota boost!!!!how did he do it??? must be the shoes!!!

and you talk so much about knock offs and cheap rims why the hell you taking pics of a 240 with sportmax on them that looks like a monster truck with weak offsets????my sisters milly is hella flushed compare to that!!!
talk about faking the funk you over here taking pics of cars with sport max...


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Luv the new look.....it does look a bit too aggresive for a 8..hope you have enough power under the hood to back up the looks
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Originally Posted by alexisthemovie
They are lighter, stronger, retain value, have quality control, a better manufacturing process, better paint, etc. I could go on forever.

If you have ever looked at how many weights it takes to balance a knockoff versus genuine wheels, you will see the difference in quality.

Many authentic wheels are forged and when you take the same design and produce it in a casting process, it'll be weak and fragile in comparison. Have you seen the many pictures of the wheel face being split from the actual barrel? It's because there is no R&D behind the build of the wheel. You can't take a forged design with thin spokes and expect the same results with a cast wheel. The structural integrity and behavior of the wheels when it is put in a position to be damaged is unpredictable. It's things like this that make up the "difference" when you say they are the same minus stickers.

You know the real reason why authentic wheels cost as much as they do. It's because of people like you who support knockoff companies who don't have an R&D team that blueprints and tests their wheels + manufacturing process.

Do you wear counterfeit shirts, jeans, shoes, and watches? It's the same thing as putting fake wheels on your car. The fact is, you'd always be faking the funk no matter what your argument is.

While I'm all for quality engineering, being an engineer myself, I don't see how your arguments hold water. How do you know Rota wheels only copy the design of a manufacturer without the attendant engineering? It could very well be that they're going for a design and selling it at a lower price through it being cast, but at the same time compensating for the reduction in strength due to the change in the manufacturing process through an increase in material amount (weight). While this gives a wheel that isn't on the bleeding edge of lightness, it could in theory give more than acceptable strength.

Your weights to balance comparison is invalid unless you're balancing just the wheels themselves; adding tires into the equation would mean that the tire imbalance comes into the picture.

Your picture doesn't prove a whole lot. If you look at it, you'll see that the sides of the spoke about an inch closer to the hub from the break looks like it's been machined. Also, the breakage is normal to the surface, which suggests that the barrel of the wheel was sheared off sideways. Based on those two observations, I really think the wheel was probably ran into a curb at a very high speed (think curbing your wheels HARD, but at something like 40 mph). I've seen wheels fail in similar fashion in the WRC, and you can bet WRC teams aren't sparing expenses when it comes to wheel selection!
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
and you act like you were in this coversation!!!!
I kind of was...


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Sorry if this is a sore point but authentic? Or no

Where's the smoke that comes with the abflug stuff anyways, they show it in their pic

'grats on the sponsorship, regardless of what for/why
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Also, the fake Vs real debate is a lot of personal preference than 100% quality.

Take some Shine replicas Vs real

Some people have different limits. I own a pair of fake $7 sunglasses Vs $120. At the same time, I would never pay $400 for something that is fake, regardless of whether the original cost double that. Its just a bootleg Vs. Original debate.
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
hey homie remember this issue of dsport mag with the article with rb products tested on a rx8, look at the front cover dude its rocking rota boost!!!!how did he do it??? must be the shoes!!!

and you talk so much about knock offs and cheap rims why the hell you taking pics of a 240 with sportmax on them that looks like a monster truck with weak offsets????my sisters milly is hella flushed compare to that!!!
talk about faking the funk you over here taking pics of cars with sport max...

That has to be the worst comeback ever. I was helping my friend sell his car with some pictures. If you can't tell, I'm into photography too so they come to me for pics. People get into magazines with Rotas all the time. It doesn't matter anyways, there are no good arguments for rocking fake wheels. Do it right or don't do it at all.
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I bought my ultra rare uber baller status TE37's cause I liked the way they looked..hahaha now that they're gone wait till you guys see what replaces them..hahah ooops...
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btw, i see both sides of the argument. I lean towards getting authentic parts over replica anyday, but I also don't see anything wrong with rota's. They may be replica's but they make some of the best replica's out there. I'm sure if my occupation was in the industry I would have a different answer but 99.9% of us are not and whether we like it or not it's all based upon opinion.
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^ wait... what happen to the uber balla wheels?
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nothing, what are you talking about? i didnt say anything...
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So you finally sold your Volks, Bryan, so now you can get a turbo and stop bitching about how slow the car is
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I love that kit! You car looks aggressive as hell. Great job!
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Originally Posted by Mikeluvs8
you act like those wheels came with a turbo ...what is the difference, wow stickers!!!! does that mean advan wheels are faster than rotas?
Advans weight under 18lbs, the boosts weigh over 22lb.

Originally Posted by alexisthemovie
It doesn't matter anyways, there are no good arguments for rocking fake wheels. Do it right or don't do it at all.
How are they fake? just replicas.

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Originally Posted by alexisthemovie
You know the real reason why authentic wheels cost as much as they do. It's because of people like you who support knockoff companies...

That makes so much sense , I guess Volk charges around $800/wheel for 18" RE-30's because he supports rota.

I don't get why you hate on replica wheels so much when you rocked SEIBON fenders on your S when they are nothing but J's racing replicas.

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thanks for sharing the pics. looks good.
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Originally Posted by imput1234
That makes so much sense , I guess Volk charges around $800/wheel for 18" RE-30's because he supports rota.

I don't get why you hate on replica wheels so much when you rocked SEIBON fenders on your S when they are nothing but J's racing replicas.
are you stupid or do you just try too hard? Seibon s2k fenders are not replicas of anything. If they were, I wouldn't have gotten them. J's fenders are +40mm, seibon are +10 and have a vent. I also had them custom cut for ferrari sidemarkers. Next?
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Originally Posted by imput1234
Advans weight under 18lbs, the boosts weigh over 22lb.



How are they fake? just replicas.
replica, copy, knockoff, fake, same thing when talking about wheels.

Rota Boost has the same design as the Advan RG2. Is the boost an rg2? No, therefore it's a fake wheel. Ever seen The Pursuit of Function?
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Originally Posted by imput1234
I don't get why you hate on replica wheels so much when you rocked SEIBON fenders on your S when they are nothing but J's racing replicas.
Btw you need glasses.




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