Klepto gets dropped!
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From: Islandia, NY but QB by Nature
thanks to all for the complements...
1. rims in due time im thinking late april maybe may
2. ride quality as stated by my boy chrism is really good. i dont know how the teins feel but according to the research i did the teins are a tad bit less stiff compared to these. i love the ride.
3. BQE, lol....i dont think im driving on that **** any more probably, lol
4. my big test was last night through mid town and survive no scrapes or bottoming out - YAY
1. rims in due time im thinking late april maybe may
2. ride quality as stated by my boy chrism is really good. i dont know how the teins feel but according to the research i did the teins are a tad bit less stiff compared to these. i love the ride.
3. BQE, lol....i dont think im driving on that **** any more probably, lol
4. my big test was last night through mid town and survive no scrapes or bottoming out - YAY
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Hey guys. Looks good. A word of caution with the Espelir springs. I found that when I swapped to the lower pressure Koni shocks with my Espelir springs they couldn't support the weight of the car on their own in the rear and are compressed so much at rest that the first 1/3 of the spring coils are touching. It makes for a rough ride and then the coils bind under hard maneuvering. Take a look at my thread linked in my sig. and then I'd recommend taking a peak at your rear springs and see if they are compressed like mine are.
If not that's great but if so you should be aware that it may cause a bumpier ride and not be desireable if you track it.
If not that's great but if so you should be aware that it may cause a bumpier ride and not be desireable if you track it.
thanks to all for the complements...
1. rims in due time im thinking late april maybe may
2. ride quality as stated by my boy chrism is really good. i dont know how the teins feel but according to the research i did the teins are a tad bit less stiff compared to these. i love the ride.
3. BQE, lol....i dont think im driving on that **** any more probably, lol
4. my big test was last night through mid town and survive no scrapes or bottoming out - YAY
1. rims in due time im thinking late april maybe may
2. ride quality as stated by my boy chrism is really good. i dont know how the teins feel but according to the research i did the teins are a tad bit less stiff compared to these. i love the ride.
3. BQE, lol....i dont think im driving on that **** any more probably, lol
4. my big test was last night through mid town and survive no scrapes or bottoming out - YAY
. How does the ride quality compare to stock especially around NYC?
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Shocks control ride quality, not springs. Stock shocks = stock ride, even on lowered aftermarket springs.
Spring rate, however, controls "ride frequency", or in other words, the rate in cycles per second at which the spring wants to rebound and contract. If the spring rate is too high for the shocks to control (dampen) then the car looks bouncy-bouncy on the freeway dips and heaves. It can also be dangerous in at-the-limit turns.
Race cars can run a ride frequency of 2.5 to 3 cycles per second, on ultra smooth racetracks. Street cars are comfortable between 1.2 and 1.8 cycles per second. A "sporty" spring for a street car typically falls between 1.8 and 2.2 cycles per second, depending on whether it will work on the stock shocks or requires aftermarket (stiffer) shocks.
And those Evo-R sway bar endlinks...? HAhahahahahahahahahaha! Don't get me started on the "Your swaybar is not in the correct position." statement! ROFL. As long as the sway bar isn't preloaded with tension, it'll be fine with the stock endlinks. The pickup point for the endlinks is approximately 50% of the control arm length, so take whatever the drop is (in this case about 1.5") and divide it in half, and that's the change at the sway bar. Since both sides drop equally, the bar simply rotates in its two mounts. Problem solved!
Spring rate, however, controls "ride frequency", or in other words, the rate in cycles per second at which the spring wants to rebound and contract. If the spring rate is too high for the shocks to control (dampen) then the car looks bouncy-bouncy on the freeway dips and heaves. It can also be dangerous in at-the-limit turns.
Race cars can run a ride frequency of 2.5 to 3 cycles per second, on ultra smooth racetracks. Street cars are comfortable between 1.2 and 1.8 cycles per second. A "sporty" spring for a street car typically falls between 1.8 and 2.2 cycles per second, depending on whether it will work on the stock shocks or requires aftermarket (stiffer) shocks.
And those Evo-R sway bar endlinks...? HAhahahahahahahahahaha! Don't get me started on the "Your swaybar is not in the correct position." statement! ROFL. As long as the sway bar isn't preloaded with tension, it'll be fine with the stock endlinks. The pickup point for the endlinks is approximately 50% of the control arm length, so take whatever the drop is (in this case about 1.5") and divide it in half, and that's the change at the sway bar. Since both sides drop equally, the bar simply rotates in its two mounts. Problem solved!
