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Formula 420 05-06-2004 05:48 PM

Holy S*** We've Come A Long Way!!!
 
The first rotary engine

MazdaManiac 05-06-2004 06:23 PM

Wow. Looks just like the Renesis!

epitrochoid 05-06-2004 06:44 PM

sweet find!

RX8FanMan 05-06-2004 08:06 PM


Originally posted by MazdaManiac
Wow. Looks just like the Renesis!
what are you smokin?

Doctorr 05-06-2004 09:26 PM

No cigar.....
 
Not even close to the first rotary!

Maybe the first MAZDA version, but perhaps we should step back and see how far Mazda went.... what they got when they bought the license from NSU was a suitcase full of bits. Not even a running model, just an 'idea'.

and Felix was out of the picture-.
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RX8FanMan 05-06-2004 10:10 PM

^ is that Mr. Wankel? Wankel somethin. the true inventor or the rotary engine. Like he made the first succesful one.

Genom 05-07-2004 09:07 AM

Yeah, Felix Wankel.

And the engine DOES look just like a Renesis. The stuff hanging off the front might be different, but the engine is only the little keg like part in the middle of it.

Formula 420 05-07-2004 12:01 PM

well, it was mazda's firs t engine!

MyRxBad 05-07-2004 12:59 PM

If you want some real info... Do a google search for KKM

RX8FanMan 05-07-2004 02:57 PM

i dont think so

Formula 420 05-10-2004 12:40 AM

ya, no shit eh?

zyran 05-10-2004 01:41 AM

Prepare for the biggest rotary engine.
 
The biggest rotary engine ;)

GiN 05-10-2004 01:47 AM


Originally posted by RX8FanMan
what are you smokin?
Come to think of it, that picture does look like some kinda post-apocalyptic hash pipe...

HiTMaNN 05-10-2004 03:49 AM

that looks nuts

thank god for the rotary

epitrochoid 05-10-2004 07:23 AM


Originally posted by GiN
Come to think of it, that picture does look like some kinda post-apocalyptic hash pipe...
aaahaa looks like one out of waterworld or something

RX8FanMan 05-10-2004 05:09 PM

Re: Prepare for the biggest rotary engine.
 

Originally posted by zyran
The biggest rotary engine ;)
that is awesome

PaulieWalnuts 05-10-2004 05:14 PM


The biggest rotary engine
That's pretty big. The biggest one though was described as having a rotor the size of a dining room table and was large enough for a full size adult to stand in the housing.

neit_jnf 05-10-2004 05:26 PM

The first succesful rotary engines were slightly different than the ones we use now. They were called type kk something and the eccentric shaft was FIXED and the whole housing rotated and the rotor as well, inside another bigger housing. This created less stress on the eccentric and could rev higher than 20,000 rpm. The drawback was that you had to disassemble the engine to change the spark plugs! I believe this is the engine shown in the picture with Felix, look how there is a housing withing a housing. Cool!

HiTMaNN 05-10-2004 05:40 PM

http://www.icustrn.com/forum/images/smiles/worship.gif rotary

zyran 05-11-2004 06:50 AM


Originally posted by neit_jnf
The first succesful rotary engines were slightly different than the ones we use now. They were called type kk something and the eccentric shaft was FIXED and the whole housing rotated and the rotor as well, inside another bigger housing. This created less stress on the eccentric and could rev higher than 20,000 rpm. The drawback was that you had to disassemble the engine to change the spark plugs! I believe this is the engine shown in the picture with Felix, look how there is a housing withing a housing. Cool!

MyRxBad said this earlier.


Originally posted by MyRxBad
If you want some real info... Do a google search for KKM

Hymee 05-11-2004 08:09 AM

And Felix Wankle didn't actually have the idea of the rotary engine in its current "KKM" form. I read a very interesting "history" book about it, and one of his associates came up with the stationary housing and rotors/eccentric shaft KKM design. Felix was really pissed-off, because the new design was not perfectly balanced with true circular motion like his original DKM design. I suppose he eventually came around - the rest is history...

There is a really neat animation of the DKM somewhere (I just spent 1/2 hour looking for it - d'oh). Although not as simple as the KKM, you can see how smooth it would have run.

Cheers,
Hymee.


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