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canzoomer 09-22-2003 10:55 PM

Don't hit trees!
 
BMW at 210KMH+ and a tree.
Tree won.

canzoomer 09-22-2003 10:56 PM

More tree action

canzoomer 09-22-2003 10:56 PM

last one

Mockngbrd 09-22-2003 11:24 PM

that's a strong treee......
guess no one survived?

khoney 09-23-2003 12:17 AM

Newton strikes again...

vipeRX7 09-23-2003 12:52 AM

yikes! I'm surprised the bmw didn't fare better ...

Wing 09-23-2003 07:15 AM

?? Where is the rest of the car? There just seems to be so many people non-shalanty looking around, seems like a "display" of some sort.

Like one of those drunk driving messages.

English 09-23-2003 07:19 AM

yeah, where's the fire-rescue guys, and the cops.....Get those civilians out of the crime scene......But by all means, allow the press access!!!!

Edo 09-23-2003 08:08 AM

I could be wrong, but I think that is a Ford Escort...

eccles 09-23-2003 08:18 AM


Originally posted by Edo
I could be wrong, but I think that is a Ford Escort...
I could be wrong, but I think it's either a photochop or a static road safety display. The spectators are far too relaxed for it to be a fresh accident, and there's no sign of any emergency services having worked on the car if it's the aftermath. Furthermore, the angles that everyone is looking in the first pic make me lean towards it being a fake.

Canzoomer: can you provide any more information or cite your source?

silver8 09-23-2003 08:33 AM

"The car manufacturer was happy to report how well the left front door resisted deformation."

Good Duck 09-23-2003 08:49 AM

The ground around tree looks remarkably undisturbed. The tree itself didn't seems to suffer any damage. I think it's a display or setup.

canzoomer 09-23-2003 09:55 AM

A freind of mine forwarded the pics from a German press site, or at least that is what he says. I will ask him to tell me more.

It IS a fairly fresh crash, as witnessed by the freshly scraped tree bark.
Apparently the accident happened at night, and this was the scene a few days later. By then the rest of the parts that are not wrapped around the tree had been removed.

That is all I know for now.

Boy, you guys are a tough crowd. I just thought it was a neat set of pics..

mikeb 09-23-2003 02:00 PM

canzoomer
you know its a tough crowd
crazy pics

Irish_in_a_RX8 09-23-2003 02:19 PM

Looks like an exibition from some art student if..esp as these folk seem to be in college/high school

P00Man 09-23-2003 02:44 PM

jesus christ...
thats really wrapped around the tree
trees are incredibly strong, wood is like natural steel, the compression and expansion properties are nearly identical in bearing loads, ratio wise


at least thats what i heard
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Zio 09-23-2003 02:48 PM

really shows how someone can "wrap their car around a tree".

8_wannabe 09-23-2003 03:00 PM

First comment: I wouldn't say Newton strikes but rather Darwin strikes again (as in, natural selection; those unsuited to procreate will destroy themselves before adapting to their environment.)

It is a cool pic, but probably fake.

What's wrong with this picture?

Little damage to the tree. No debris from tree or wreckage seen in vicinity.

Accident didn't recently happen (i.e., not smoking, etc.) Seems like rescue workers would have disengaged car from tree while on scene.

No sign of fire or high heat to tree or car.

Maybe this is a lens problem or something, but in second photo looks like a guy wire is stringing left door to to right rear bumper.

Unlikely that the kinetic forces would allow the car to "wrap" in this way. Certainly it's a long shot, and may well be a physical impossibility.

Just my opinion; I think it's art designed to deter reckless (or wreckless) driving. :)

RX8Lover 09-23-2003 03:36 PM

with the amount of force that the car looks to have to appear this wrecked, the tree would most definitely (in the least) bent over a little. It is in no way a big tree trunk, and it seems highly unlikely that this could have happened.

Crazyfool 09-23-2003 05:12 PM

for those wondering where the rest of the car was, it is about 50 yeards or so away. theese pics plus some were on the rx7 forum.

canzoomer 09-23-2003 07:12 PM

Canadian tragedy
 
Sob..

eccles 09-23-2003 07:26 PM

Re: Canadian tragedy
 

Originally posted by canzoomer
Sob..
Some might see that as a mercy killing. :p

M-ster 09-23-2003 08:04 PM

Either it's fake or for real, don't try it at home. Never fight mother nature!

mikeb 09-23-2003 08:25 PM

so true m-ster

spdspappy 09-23-2003 08:57 PM

Just remember the rule...

If you have the choice between hitting a big tree or a pole, ALWAYS choose the pole...

canzoomer 09-23-2003 09:55 PM

Why?

I guess maybe poles do not have as deep a set of roots..
And they are dead wood..

Any other reason?

TJRX8 09-23-2003 10:13 PM


Originally posted by Edo
I could be wrong, but I think that is a Ford Escort...
318Ti ?

canzoomer 09-23-2003 10:33 PM

I think it is a 318i ( not ti)

See this pic:

http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/u...96602091990307

Compare the door, trim, mirror, etc..
Mighty close.

Mockngbrd 09-23-2003 11:40 PM

dun BMWs hav 5 lug nuts (screws) on the rims? this car has 4 only....

mikeb 09-24-2003 01:42 AM

whatever it is, it is totaled

eccles 09-24-2003 01:55 AM


Originally posted by canzoomer
Why?

I guess maybe poles do not have as deep a set of roots..
And they are dead wood..

Any other reason?

Most manmade roadside objects are designed to break off or deform in an impact. Mother Nature doesn't include that design feature in her own roadside obstacles.

Edo 09-24-2003 07:42 AM

It is not a 318, it is a Ford Escort. Look at the fuel filler - BMW's have a door, not a crappy back plug in cap.

rotary-tt 09-24-2003 04:31 PM


Originally posted by spdspappy
Just remember the rule...

If you have the choice between hitting a big tree or a pole, ALWAYS choose the pole...

Neither is good. I've witnessed in person a person who hit a pole 60+ mph. The car bent up and the underbody was resting on the street. Driver died and the others helicoptered out - don't know what happened to them.

If at all possible, avoid stationary objects which don't give:eek:

kennyboy1215 09-25-2003 11:04 AM

it is an escort..the BM wouldn't have looked so good;)

Spin9k 09-25-2003 11:53 AM

End of story from RX7Forum:

Finally found the story of what actually happened:

quote:
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Here's a scary one: Jenny Pincent's Ford Escort was literally torn in half when she lost control at 100mph on a wet road and slammed into a tree. The front of the car ended up 30 yards from the rear, and Jenny was somewhere in between. She wasn't wearing a seatbelt, and was thrown clear of the car upon impact, emerging from the wreckage with only minor injuries.
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few more shots:

Spin9k 09-25-2003 11:54 AM

more

Spin9k 09-25-2003 11:54 AM

the car is dead but say a few words anyhou 'cause this was one lucky kid! (if you believe the story... which is hard, I must say!)

RX-GR8 09-25-2003 01:51 PM

it looks staged and people are walking aorund it like its some sort of exhibition. if she was ejected through the windshield at 100 MPH the head trauma would be enormous. i dont see how anyone could survive. if she was thrown out through one of the doors and survived that would be hard to believe too.

350 Formula 09-25-2003 02:55 PM

Not me, but one of my best friends saw someone emerge from a wreck like this.

They were driving a mustang and speeding. Lost control and hit a wooden light pole. Cut the car in half. Driver staggerd away with minor injuries. Being DRUNK probably saved his life (in addition to probably being the cause of the accident).

mikeb 09-25-2003 03:00 PM

how does being drunk help

med_mx6 09-25-2003 03:15 PM


Originally posted by mikeb
how does being drunk help
good question...

maybe this goes toward the argument that sometimes efforts to avoid an object only makes the chance of hitting it even better...

personally the story seems incredible (uncredible?). i don' t understand how that tree show hardly any damage. it kinda looks like the escort was fired out of a cannon toward the tree. and the driver didn't sustained any head trauma... maybe jenny was wearing full body protection and a helmet?




eccles 09-25-2003 03:45 PM

100mph, in the wet, in an Escort, with no seatbelt. It's almost a shame that she didn't succeed in removing herself from the gene pool.

mikeb 09-25-2003 08:12 PM

ouch

canzoomer 09-26-2003 12:06 AM

Head trauma perhaps, but it looks like the car was cut in half by the tree behind the drivers seat.

What puzzles me is how she would have survived the G forces.
The rest of the car is only about 10 meters away.

If she slowed down that fast from 100mph, she would have pulled about 30+ G's

OTOH, maybe she travelled further. I wonder where she landed?

RobDickinson 09-26-2003 04:34 AM

She would have pulled a LOT more than 30G's , we can survive huge (1000+) G's for very short periods (fractions of seconds).

I still dont buy it tho, tree wouldnt have stood up to ton and a half of escort @ 100mph, plus the front would land further away etc.

Even being flung clear, at 100mph , without any protection, the girl would have been in serious trouble, not many bikers survive 100mph offs on normal roads with armour.

demonfire 09-26-2003 08:03 AM


Originally posted by RobDickinson


I still dont buy it tho, tree wouldnt have stood up to ton and a half of escort @ 100mph, plus the front would land further away etc.

correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't metal behave almost like a liquid under such forces, whereas the static tree has incredible resistance to such forces?

j1mb0x99 09-26-2003 09:05 AM

It is hard to believe, but the human body can do surprising things. You could fall off of a 10 foot ladder, land wrong and die. Yet people have had malfunctioned parachutes skydiving and still survive.

-JiM

Elara 09-26-2003 10:02 AM


Originally posted by mikeb
how does being drunk help
Being drunk helps because it can keep the person involved limp and not tensed up. Sometimes injuries in crashes happen because people automatically tense up and/or brace themselves on things like steering wheels or seats, which can lead to worse injuries. At least, that is my understanding. But then, the drunk peson would have been less likely to have an accident anyway if they were sober, so it more than evens out in the end.

canzoomer 09-26-2003 01:21 PM

Well, maybe the tree should have bent, but what about THIS one??

mikeb 09-26-2003 02:52 PM

thanks elara


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