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Tamas 02-01-2004 12:10 PM

Aftermarket leather interior is done
 
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Since Mazda forced me to get a sport package equipped car instead of the GT (I didn't want the moonroof), I planned on getting the interior re-done with leather. The fact is that the stock cloth material is of quite good quality, so after taking delivery of the 8, I had second thoughts - but I always wanted leather and then I realized that despite the cloth being nice, it picks up lints and other dirt rather quickly. So I decided to go with the original plan and brought the car to Classic Soft Trim. They ususally work with dealers, but are apparently willing to take walk-in customers too. It worked out quite well, let alone the fact that I saved a few hundred dollars by going directly to them and avoiding the dealer's markup :)
They charge $900 for single color and $1050 for two-tone interior. Yes, it's expensive - but I started to realize that I'm actually quite happy about not getting the GT package since this is cheaper than that, and besides, I have the base stereo that's a lot easier to upgrade than the Bose :)

I liked the two-tone style of the stock interior, so I wanted to mimick that. The stock black/red was a good combo, even though the red was too bright for me - so I settled to a color called 'medium red' and the black. Despite the fact that the included pictures don't show this really well, it is indeed less bright than the stock red...
I was very tempted to go with their 'brick' color instead of the red (which is somewhat like the stock chaparral interior, only the brown is a tad darker) but then the red won me over :D:

Before I brought the car to CST, I took apart the entire interior myself, to ensure that no fastener or tab is broken when taking off the panels. I just don't trust anyone (especially not a car mechanic or an upholstery place) to take the same care not to butcher anything... call me crazy or what you will :D:
Having the factory service manual has greatly helped me since I knew exactly where and what kind the fasteners are - so that told me where to pull or where is a tab that needs to be lifted etc.

The upholstery place didn't even take a day to complete the car. I dropped off the 8 in the morning and got it at 5 PM - and again, I was the one who put the panels back on, not them.
By the way, the stock cloth seat covers came off very easily (held in place with just hooks), so now I have the cloth covers in excellent condition too - have to figure out what to do with them.

OK, after this long-winded talk, here are a few pictures about the result:

Tamas 02-01-2004 12:10 PM

From the side...

Tamas 02-01-2004 12:11 PM

Closeup of the driver's seat...

Tamas 02-01-2004 12:12 PM

Driver's side door...

Tamas 02-01-2004 12:12 PM

Closeup of the passenger's seat...

Sea Ray 02-01-2004 12:17 PM

I like it! Looks like you have ALL leather as well, instead of our vinyl/leather combo. Good job.

zerobanger 02-01-2004 12:26 PM

Dude...

I have to say it looks very, very nice. I'm curious why you did not go with the rubber side pieces that the oem ones have. If you look at the history of leather seats (miata, rx-7) the areas where mazda put the rubber stuff usually start to crack and split when it was leather in the rx-7, miata, etc. I thought that was the reason for the rubber.

I admit though it looks amazing. I plan on getting mine done with blue, I'll have the same theme as you but blue to match my exterior.

adrian-1 02-01-2004 01:20 PM

Looks good. I wanted leather but without all the extra stuff so I decided on the sports package also.
Can you make the insert any color you want or is there only a few color options. Didn't see it on they're site. I'd also get the rx8 logo embroided on the seats.

zthang 02-01-2004 01:29 PM

beautiful

XDEEDUBBX 02-01-2004 02:58 PM

that looks pretty clean...they did a clean job...

mikeb 02-01-2004 03:08 PM

wow, that looks very nice

and I like the leather on the doors and edges of the seats

great idea

racerdave 02-01-2004 03:13 PM

That looks outstanding. I am planning on the SP, so that could be a very real option for me too.

I know most upholstery places can do seat heaters at the same time too, so I might look into that as well.

What do the front seatbacks look like from the rear? Is there a map pocket or anything?

WHealy 02-01-2004 03:28 PM

Tamas,

You didn't like what Mazda provided so you fixed/customized it until it was to your liking. No fault i can find there. Not to mention it looks great!

ac89 02-01-2004 04:00 PM

that looks great man.
where did you get the factory service manual from? sounds like it may come in useful

JeRKy 8 Owner 02-01-2004 04:06 PM

Only $1050?? Thats apretty good deal. I thought it would cost at least $2000 forthe whole thing.

takahashi 02-01-2004 04:12 PM

gReat Stuff... look better than mine installed from Mazda Hiroshima factory.

I noticed the door handle is not clean. I found it is a bugger to clean them after I had a kick to it once when I tried to get out

Tamas 02-01-2004 07:25 PM

Thanks for the compliments, folks :)

One word of caution with CST: even though they DO have the correct pattern for the RX-8, their drawings call for the door panel inserts to be the same color as the edge of the seats (so in my case black). I didn't realize this first and had to make a change after they ordered the covers already. Luckily, they had enough material in the store to re-cut those pieces, so I was good to go.


I like it! Looks like you have ALL leather as well, instead of our vinyl/leather combo. Good job.
Actually, not everything is real leather. All the seating surfaces are, yes. But the back of the seat and the door panels are vinyl - they match perfectly though.


I'm curious why you did not go with the rubber side pieces that the oem ones have. If you look at the history of leather seats (miata, rx-7) the areas where mazda put the rubber stuff usually start to crack and split when it was leather in the rx-7, miata, etc. I thought that was the reason for the rubber.
I hope it won't crack... if it does, I will be pissed off. I'll try to use some good leather conditioner to keep it in good shape - and CST gives a 3 or 4 years warranty on the leather.


I'll have the same theme as you but blue to match my exterior.
I was thinking of trying to match the titanium color of the car as the insert - but then I realized it would look too dull with gray/black interior, so what's the point?
I really think that the other good combo with the titanium is that black/brick I mentioned.
If you do yours with matching blue, it will look amazing. Since you already have the leather interior, you might just get the inserts swapped for blue and keep the rest, that would be a lot less money too. I'm sure the stock leather is held in place the same way the cloth is - which means it'll be easy to remove it without damage.


Can you make the insert any color you want or is there only a few color options. Didn't see it on they're site. I'd also get the rx8 logo embroided on the seats.
You can have almost any color you want... they have a shitload of colors to choose from. The leather hides they use are of very good quality. As for the logo, that's probably the single one thing I'd do otherwise if I'd do this again. I wish I'd have been aware that they can do that - they never mentioned it and I didn't check their Web site beforehand.
I was also thinking that maybe I should get the stitchin in red instead of the black - but then I thought that would only look good if the steering wheel and the shifter boot would have red stitching too. So I just opted for the black to keep it consistent.


I know most upholstery places can do seat heaters at the same time too, so I might look into that as well.
I'm sure they can do that too - I just wasn't interested in getting them.


What do the front seatbacks look like from the rear? Is there a map pocket or anything?
Yes, there is. Actually, there was only one map pocket on the cloth seats (on the passenger side), now I have a map pocket on both sides. The material looks just like the black leather on the front, and there is a little Classic Soft Trim logo pressed into the map pockets.


where did you get the factory service manual from? sounds like it may come in useful
PM or email Maniac (a member of this forum). He'll hook you up :D


I noticed the door handle is not clean. I found it is a bugger to clean them after I had a kick to it once when I tried to get out
Yeah, same here. The material they used for that piece isn't too great from this viewpoint - it's easy to get some dirt on it and it's hard to keep it clean :(
Plus, I think it won't wear too well either - it'll look rather ugly as the time passes.

Sin 02-01-2004 07:45 PM

Looks awesome, pricing is not too bad like you said...its what you wanted, well done.

success07 02-01-2004 11:33 PM

Just awesome, Tamas!!! Especially for $1050!!!!!

Better than factory IMO. The leather on the edges of the seats is what we should have had from the beginning.

Mazda will probably do that next year. :(

racerdave 02-01-2004 11:46 PM

Well, after seeing G35 seats (admittidly not a Mazda) with 20k miles, I think there was some validity to Mazda placing vinyl where they did. The G's seats were all wrinkly and creased and didn't look good. With 20k, that's way too early for that.

But hopefully the aftermarket ones will behave nicely with some proper conditioning.

G8rboy 02-01-2004 11:50 PM

That looks incredible, man... I'm impressed. It looks so much better than that rubbery vinyl crap the OEM leather seats get around the ass-support area. If they used good quality leather, those areas will last fine for a long time. Mazda has been using some cheezy cheap leather in the Miatas since '99, but prior to that they used nice thick stuff that held up well (just sold my '96 with 100k+ miles and most of those years in South Florida sunshine, and they held up great.

I also love the idea of more realistic (leather, or even leather-like vinyl) door inserts- the hard plastic stuff they use to simulate the leather color in the OEM is a little on the cheap side.

Rx8Freehk 02-02-2004 09:25 AM

success07, Dude this would look AWSOME in....... YELLOW!

mmmdowning 02-02-2004 11:06 AM

Really nice!!!!

success07 02-02-2004 12:32 PM

Freehk - Agree 100%

Tamas - Are they able to do the steering wheel and shift knob also? At what additional price?

Tamas 02-02-2004 12:37 PM

According to their Web site, they do certain steering wheels. Not sure about the RX-8 wheel.
I suppose they should be able to do both, but have no idea about the cost. Just call them up and ask.

CCJ 02-02-2004 01:44 PM

Looks superb!

Bankotsu 02-02-2004 05:38 PM

Wow..that looks really nice. I might just do that since there is a Classic Soft Trim dealership near me. I don't really need the moonroof.

mdsbuc 02-02-2004 07:35 PM

The leather looks beautiful. I'm wondering if they can convert seats to power as well.

RX-GR8 02-02-2004 10:25 PM

tamas that looks outstanding

JeRKy 8 Owner 02-05-2004 05:55 PM

I wouldntwant power seats in this car. It takesforever to move the seat forward and backward w/power controls so it will make it evenmore of a pain in the ass to load passengersinto the back seats than it already is w/just manual adjustments!!

umpuck 02-06-2004 01:10 PM

good work on the leather

cueball 02-06-2004 02:10 PM

The leather looks amazing. Looks really soft and supple.

If you get a chance, could you take a picture of the seat back area?

Tamas 02-08-2004 12:56 PM


Originally posted by cueball
The leather looks amazing. Looks really soft and supple.
It is :)


If you get a chance, could you take a picture of the seat back area?
Sure... here are two:

Tamas 02-08-2004 12:57 PM

Another one...

racerdave 02-08-2004 01:18 PM

Looks great. Thanks for the seatback pics.

So how do you like them now that you've been able to put your butt in them and drive for a little while?

What's the overall verdict?

Tamas 02-08-2004 08:06 PM

I like it a lot. The leather is indeed plush and the interior of the car smells nice :D
I have not noticed that the seats would be slippery like many people said about leather... and am certainly very happy so far. We'll see how it holds up.
As I mentioned, the only thing I regret is not getting the RX-8 logo embroidered into the front seats like the following picture shows. That'd be sweet... other than that, it's just like I expected it to be.

http://www.classicsofttrim.com/viewPics?imagecd=1788

poncekim 02-12-2004 03:22 AM

Well, I have the same classic soft trim leather on my prelude and it really is great quality leather. After 6 years, it is still soft and supple and not slippery at all. The sides of the seat are also in great condition - no cracking. I've never had to use conditioner on my leather, but I think being garaged has helped the leather stay soft.

If I ever get the RX-8, I'm will definitely be getting the CST leather. I really think it is much better quality than alot of the OEM leather out there.

adrian-1 02-12-2004 09:51 AM

Well, I won't be getting CST leather seats anytime soon. I was quoted 1350 for all black, 200 more for two tone, and 50 more for the RX8 logo. That's $1600 total. Guess labor is more expensive at this CST location.

success07 02-12-2004 12:09 PM

IMO, Black leather seats with piping the color of your car looks AMAZING!!! Ferrari's. AstonMartin, and Maseratti have done this and it looks sooo choice!!! I wonder what the cost would be to have that done?

leegina 02-12-2004 03:01 PM

Talk to your salesman! I just dropped my car at the dealership to get the CST leather put in. They quoted me the same as adrian-1(This is also in austin) anyway total was 1000.00 given to the salesman for black leather with silver piping and rx-8 logo. The salesman told me he would give it to me at his cost which he did. He is also going to hook me up with tint at his cost,but need to take it back another day for that,I pick the car up tonight.

Tamas 02-12-2004 03:18 PM


Originally posted by adrian-1
Well, I won't be getting CST leather seats anytime soon. I was quoted 1350 for all black, 200 more for two tone, and 50 more for the RX8 logo. That's $1600 total. Guess labor is more expensive at this CST location.
That seems to be a rather gross difference compared to what I paid. Including tax, my price was $1138 for the two-tone leather. Knowing that most things are more expensive in California than in Texas (including labor I suppose), $1600 seems to be way off. That would probably be the price if you'd factor in the dealer's markup should you go through them and not directly to CST. It looks like they are trying to gouge you pretty badly.
Maybe you can drive over to the Bay Area when you are making a vacation and get the stuff done in a day here :)

And regarding the piping: I don't think that would be significantly more expensive, but you might want to see how they are doing the seams in case you want piping. I asked about that when I planned my interior and the lady at CST said that the regular double-seam is stronger and more durable, especially at the edge of the seat cushion... I certainly want to have it durable rather than flashy :D

leegina 02-12-2004 03:33 PM

1395 is what the dealership charges if you buy it doing the deal (at least one dealership was charging that)I should of said stitching than piping. Also I contacted San Antonio, Houston and both told me to contact CST in Austin. I thought money is money but they would not touch it. I know when I first seen your post and your price and then heard what they wanted I wanted some vaseline at least but that is what they want here and no other choice but going through Katzkin and doing it yourself or paying around 12-1300 for their install of basic leather.

CCarlisi 02-14-2004 10:33 AM

VERY NICE.

Overport 02-17-2004 03:33 PM

very impressive...worth the wait

shazusa 08-14-2004 10:56 PM

This may be a silly question, but do they do any work on the steering wheel that you know of. I kind of like what Mazda does with the two-tone scheme on the steering wheel.

Nemesis8 08-14-2004 11:46 PM

Nice ride - looks awesome

Rob Tomlin 08-15-2004 04:27 PM

I really like the look of the black/red leather combo, but I worry about the red leather fading over time (red likes to do that).

Tamas 03-05-2010 02:59 PM

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Someone was curious, so I took a few pictures about the leather as it is now.

This is how the leather holds up after more than six years... I think it's not bad.
I only treated it sporadically with Lexol, but not very often.

rodjonathan 03-05-2010 03:26 PM

damn that looks really good after that long!

Rotr8 03-05-2010 03:45 PM

glad to see that its been kept well,,,,


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