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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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but then your HC's go through the roof (won't pass any emissions tests on the limiter, by a LOOONG shot...)
these days, don't they simply use a combination of the two, under computer control to keep the revs from going too high??
Old Nov 19, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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All rev limiters are built into the ECU software these days. I get the impression that ignition cut is nicer on the engine than fuel cut too, that's why the rev limiter is ignition but over boosting which is much more dangerous has a fuel cut because it may ignite without a spark.

BTW, I've heard of heaps of stories of rotaries over-revving and living to tell the tale it's one of their strong points. Years ago there was a poll of people on the rx-7 list who had grabbed the wrong gear and not one blew an engine. Try that on the E36 M3 list! I've seen 9500rpm on my motor before without any drama.

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by wakeech
but then your HC's go through the roof (won't pass any emissions tests on the limiter, by a LOOONG shot...)
these days, don't they simply use a combination of the two, under computer control to keep the revs from going too high??
Are there any EPA emissions tests/requirements at the redline? I don't know much about the requirements for emissions, but I always thought the requirements were only for cruising and idle conditions. Enlighten me!
Old Nov 19, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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HA HA HA!!! lordy i HOPE not!!!
i'm just being my friendly, green, and know-it-ally self...

oh, rpm_pwr, what do you drive?? a 7?? or an E36 M3???
Old Dec 4, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by rpm_pwr
All rev limiters are built into the ECU software these days. I get the impression that ignition cut is nicer on the engine than fuel cut too, that's why the rev limiter is ignition but over boosting which is much more dangerous has a fuel cut because it may ignite without a spark.

BTW, I've heard of heaps of stories of rotaries over-revving and living to tell the tale it's one of their strong points. Years ago there was a poll of people on the rx-7 list who had grabbed the wrong gear and not one blew an engine. Try that on the E36 M3 list! I've seen 9500rpm on my motor before without any drama.

-pete
I have a TII with stock internals, full exhaust, intake and fuel-cut defender, if you want power, you shift at 7500...redline is 7000. I have maxed out my tach several times(8000+rpms) and I mean MAXED it out(2nd gens also had rev limiters) and I hit my limiter...8600rpms...these engines can take it...but I do think they'd need to put a scatter-shield on the tranny in order for it to go any higher.

Also, they said 0-62 is 6.3...I imagine 0-60 will be more like 6.0-6.1 seconds
Old Dec 5, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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If the posted redline line is 9000 revs, I hope the buzzer comes on at 9250.
A modern rev limiter would probably cut the fuel to one rotor @ 9500, and if that didn't do the trick to bring the revs down, the other rotor could drop out @ 9750, and finally the spark cut out at 10000.

If you dumped that air/fuel mix into a hot catalytic converter, not a good thing.

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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by MikeW
A modern rev limiter would probably cut the fuel to one rotor @ 9250, and if that didn't do the trick to bring the revs down, the other rotor could drop out @ 9500.

If you dumped that air/fuel mix into a hot catalytic converter, not a good thing.
It's way easier than that... think about it... your throttle input is just an electronic link into the ECU ANYWAY, so all it's gotta do is back you off.... disconnect your right foot... scale it anyway, until your revs are inside the limit... then you don't have to worry about HC's or going too lean etc...
Old Dec 6, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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Fuel >>CUT<<

The key to "Fuel Cut" is the CUT part... there is no fuel being introduced, so there is no air and fuel to mix, therefore nothing to detonate.

You'd run into problems with Fuel Reduction, but not Fuel Cut.
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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What's that bull about the RX-7 being about straightline performance and nothing else at the end of the article??? Did anyone else notice that...what's wrong with that statement?
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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What's that bull about the RX-7 being about straightline performance and nothing else at the end of the article??? Did anyone else notice that...what's wrong with that statement?



I didn't even need to read that article to know that those editors were odviously smoking something It really ticks me off when people don't know sh*t about the history of the cars they are testing.
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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I agree.
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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History

Agreed, There are people within mazda that are making a very hard push to remind all the employees about the history of Mazda, the rotary and racing.

This is shown in their commercial on SpeedVision/Channel (whatever) .. http://www.rotaryscene.com/movies/MazdaAd.mpeg
Their next target is educating the media on what Mazda is all about, and how they found themselves again.
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Grimace
Fuel economy, combined driving: 28-30 MPG. Methinks this is a little overly optimistic. :D One can hope though. I wonder where they got this number from? It does say at the bottom of the data box is small print "All figures manufacturer's claims" so either Mazda has come out with some crazy breakthrough or its a misprint.
Note that the British gallon is bigger than the gallons here in the U.S. Yes.....I know...it doesn't make much sense...
The mess us up by giving us the english system of measurement, then they muck it all up again....

1 British gallon = 1.20095 US Gallons
 
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