RX-7 RX-8 in June Road & Track
05-09-2007, 04:32 PM
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I don't really think this debate merits that much argument. I don't care whether it's FE or SE or BS...and I sure as heck don't care what Mazda corporate refers to the car. I purchased an '04 RX-8, and that's what it is, period. If I need the upper radiator hose - just send me the part for my model year regardless of whether it's stamped with an FE for SE.
I've owned rotary engines for about a decade now, and from time to time say FD or 3rd gen or '93 RX-7...all interchangeable and all work well enough.
I've owned rotary engines for about a decade now, and from time to time say FD or 3rd gen or '93 RX-7...all interchangeable and all work well enough.
Model Year when ordering parts is Not always enough information, there must have been a time when your VIN was required as it is also used by parts guys to identify which is the correct part as Mazda like most , change parts in production during a model year that are not interchangable.....you need a VIN Number.
05-09-2007, 04:35 PM
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I never said the VIN has nothing to with the model. I'm saying the chassis name isn't always in the VIN (sometimes it is, sometimes not). The last BMW 3 series was globally known as the E46 chassis. You won't find E46 in the VIN. But I'm sure the VIN numbers do have some model meaning to BMW.
05-09-2007, 04:48 PM
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Does it really matter? I mean, there is only one generation of RX-8.
With RX-7's they are actually useful. Instead of having to say "I have an RX-7. No, not THAT one, I mean the boxy-looking one from the 80's", you could just say "FC".
With RX-7's they are actually useful. Instead of having to say "I have an RX-7. No, not THAT one, I mean the boxy-looking one from the 80's", you could just say "FC".
05-09-2007, 04:52 PM
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I mean no offense, but a retired parts manager isn't what I consider to be the "source". It's no different than a retired Mazda sales manager telling me the Mazdaspeed RX-8 is to be released in 2008.
I don't doubt you know what you're talking about from an Australian part numbers perspective. But it still isn't proof that Mazda Corp. Japan has designated the RX-8 as the FE. Because the general practice of using chassis codes as a nick name isn't based on part numbers. It's based on the makers chassis code for a model and all the JDM data points to SE3P. Show me a document from Mazda Motor Corp. HQ Japan that says FE3P, then I'll believe you.
I don't doubt you know what you're talking about from an Australian part numbers perspective. But it still isn't proof that Mazda Corp. Japan has designated the RX-8 as the FE. Because the general practice of using chassis codes as a nick name isn't based on part numbers. It's based on the makers chassis code for a model and all the JDM data points to SE3P. Show me a document from Mazda Motor Corp. HQ Japan that says FE3P, then I'll believe you.
I checked on a 07 made Black 8 at Australian Motors (Mazda Dealer here) last Friday, every model ID plate on the thing says JMOFE1031...
Why do ALL, I repeat ALL the TSB's on your US Finishlineperformance.com site refer to the RX-8 as an FE since day 1.....this is what Mazda Mechanics refer to.
So you guys have 2 chassis VIN codes..I doubt that, US TSB's don't mention SE3P whatsoever....please show me IF they do..I cant find ANY reference.
And all the parts numbers for modified parts in TSB's start with FE...
BTW The reason why the term FC, and FD became "popular" is because Mazda Parts guys would ask the customer do you have an FD or FC, after a while it takes off you know....even down under... I sold parts to them.
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05-09-2007, 04:58 PM
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I never said the VIN has nothing to with the model. I'm saying the chassis name isn't always in the VIN (sometimes it is, sometimes not). The last BMW 3 series was globally known as the E46 chassis. You won't find E46 in the VIN. But I'm sure the VIN numbers do have some model meaning to BMW.
I don't care what BMW does....they are not Mazda
05-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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Here mate...its a term of endearment...slang...don't get offended.
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...21-06-1559.pdf
Here you go a US TSB with Part numbers and VIN..
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...21-06-1559.pdf
Here you go a US TSB with Part numbers and VIN..
05-09-2007, 05:18 PM
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. You have your reality based on life down under and years of Mazda service.
I have mine based on 3 decades of being a rotary owner/enthusiast and living on and off within Japanese culture, including their car culture.
This debate is very similar to the meaning of "RX", so let's not go there either...
PEACE.
I have mine based on 3 decades of being a rotary owner/enthusiast and living on and off within Japanese culture, including their car culture.
This debate is very similar to the meaning of "RX", so let's not go there either...
PEACE.
05-09-2007, 06:03 PM
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RX Prescription
RX Radix (Latin: Root; derivation of prescription)
RX Receive/Receiver/Reception
RX Radiation Experiments
RX Re-Xray
RX Reaction (medical)
RX Reactor
RX Recipe - Take
RX Reparable Exchange
RX Reserve
RX Resources Exchange
RX Rexall
RX Treatment
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rx Rotary Experimental (Mazda model/engine)
hehehe.
RX Radix (Latin: Root; derivation of prescription)
RX Receive/Receiver/Reception
RX Radiation Experiments
RX Re-Xray
RX Reaction (medical)
RX Reactor
RX Recipe - Take
RX Reparable Exchange
RX Reserve
RX Resources Exchange
RX Rexall
RX Treatment
RX US Revenue Distilled Spirits (Scott Catalogue prefix; philately)
rx Rotary Experimental (Mazda model/engine)
hehehe.
05-09-2007, 06:04 PM
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The Mazda F platform is an automobile platform for rear wheel drive sports cars. It was the basis for three generations of the Mazda RX-7.
Prior to 1981, the platform was coded as "SA2" in the VIN. This was an evolution of the "S1"-coded Capella platforms that preceded the Mazda G platform.
FB
The FB chassis was a new name for the SA2 used in the 1979-1980 Mazda RX-7.
1981-1985 Mazda RX-7 Savanna (coupe)
FC
The FC platform was quite close to the FB. It also served as the basis for the Mazda MX-5's NA platform.
1986-1991 Mazda RX-7 Savanna (coupe)
1986-1991 Mazda RX-7 Savanna (convertible)
FD
1991-1995 Efini RX-7 (coupe)
1991-2002 Mazda RX-7 (coupe)
FE
The FE platform is almost entirely different from the FD. The suspension was redesigned, the wheelbase is different, as is almost every other component.
2004-2005 Mazda RX-8 (coupe)
Prior to 1981, the platform was coded as "SA2" in the VIN. This was an evolution of the "S1"-coded Capella platforms that preceded the Mazda G platform.
FB
The FB chassis was a new name for the SA2 used in the 1979-1980 Mazda RX-7.
1981-1985 Mazda RX-7 Savanna (coupe)
FC
The FC platform was quite close to the FB. It also served as the basis for the Mazda MX-5's NA platform.
1986-1991 Mazda RX-7 Savanna (coupe)
1986-1991 Mazda RX-7 Savanna (convertible)
FD
1991-1995 Efini RX-7 (coupe)
1991-2002 Mazda RX-7 (coupe)
FE
The FE platform is almost entirely different from the FD. The suspension was redesigned, the wheelbase is different, as is almost every other component.
2004-2005 Mazda RX-8 (coupe)
05-09-2007, 06:06 PM
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Mazda platforms
DA/DL/DB/DW/DG/DY - subcompact FWD (ex: Mazda Demio)
SS/SR/SG - subcompact minivan FWD (ex: Mazda Bongo)
BD/BV/BF/BG/BA/BH/BW/BJ/BK - compact FWD (ex: Mazda Familia/Mazda GLC/Mazda 323/Mazda Protege/Mazda3)
CA/CB/CG/CP - mid-size FWD (ex: Mazda Lantis)
GC/GD/GV/GE/GF/GW/GG/GY - mid-size FWD (ex: Capella/Atenza/626/MX-6/6/Ford Probe)
MA/MB - mid-size FWD (ex: Mazda Persona)
TA - mid-size FWD (ex: Mazda Millenia)
HC/HD/HE - full-size RWD (ex: Mazda Luce/929)
JC - full-size RWD (ex: Eunos Cosmo)
LV/LW - minivan FWD (ex: Mazda MPV)
FB/FC/FD/FE - sports cars RWD (ex: Mazda RX-7/Mazda RX-8)
NA/NB/NC - sports cars RWD (ex: Mazda MX-5)
DA/DL/DB/DW/DG/DY - subcompact FWD (ex: Mazda Demio)
SS/SR/SG - subcompact minivan FWD (ex: Mazda Bongo)
BD/BV/BF/BG/BA/BH/BW/BJ/BK - compact FWD (ex: Mazda Familia/Mazda GLC/Mazda 323/Mazda Protege/Mazda3)
CA/CB/CG/CP - mid-size FWD (ex: Mazda Lantis)
GC/GD/GV/GE/GF/GW/GG/GY - mid-size FWD (ex: Capella/Atenza/626/MX-6/6/Ford Probe)
MA/MB - mid-size FWD (ex: Mazda Persona)
TA - mid-size FWD (ex: Mazda Millenia)
HC/HD/HE - full-size RWD (ex: Mazda Luce/929)
JC - full-size RWD (ex: Eunos Cosmo)
LV/LW - minivan FWD (ex: Mazda MPV)
FB/FC/FD/FE - sports cars RWD (ex: Mazda RX-7/Mazda RX-8)
NA/NB/NC - sports cars RWD (ex: Mazda MX-5)
05-12-2007, 05:20 PM
#137
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8rotr8...thanks you are spot on, and their Mazda genuine part numbers start with the first 2 alpha letters pertaining to each model!
06-16-2007, 07:16 PM
#139
rx8 Chass. number
Just been looking at my Chass. number --and its a "SE3P"- but my Rx8 is a (late?) '03 JDM. (only did 700k in Japan) Does anyone now how to read the chass. numbers-- eg when (what month) the car was made/ etc??
06-17-2007, 12:23 AM
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