REsuperD

but i think it's a lot easier to do it thru gray market import in europe

MattMPS

no problem...if you want one you can ask to Mazda Italia.

the problem it's the marketing choice of MMItalia:

-no demos car, no ads, no tests in italian magazines.....the car disappear to the large audience.......

j_tso

That's what I thought about Japan, but when I visited in April 07 I saw plenty of FDs and RX-8s, and they were driven within Tokyo.

RXallan

I was ready to say "whats the big deal, if I was living in Europe I would be driving *cool car we dont get in NA* "
but really, all the new "cool" cars that you guys get are 40mpg FWD hot hatches (which are kinda gay IMO).
Alfa Romeo 159, Focus RS, VW Sirocco . . . all FWD, all gay

for the price, nothing compares to the RX8 !

j_tso

I dunno, I kinda want a Fiat 500. New or old.


or a Citroen C6.

sebarx8

iTrader: (4)

fiat 500 i put the renesis in it and yahoooooooooooooooooooooo

AJ's Shinka

I bet they got more IROC 's over there than 8's. The Italians love that car.

DOMINION

^No way, The IROC Z28? if they are sleeper clean then yea!

MattMPS

No IROC here.

Never imported. maybe some from "gray import". very rare.

I EU young people buy compact hatchs (sr.1 BMW, Golf, Mazda 3 etc...) 99% diesel powered.

sales of "real" sportcars are fewer than in US i suppose.

German Brands are very strong (audi TT, sr3 coupè,...)

Jap only for real passionate people. Rx-8 included.

lepichichi

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if i was in italy i would defenetly buy a ferrari over a rx8

Ryoma-kun

The Ferrari's ain't any cheaper than they are in the US XD Oh well Norway stopped importing Rx-8's in 2006. The reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed government decided having the taxes for the Rx-8 being decided from its Co2 per KM. The Rx-8 went from costing around 62 000 USD (which is pretty cheap for a car like this in Norway), to costing about 107 000 USD. No wonder why they stopped importing it and why there aren't a single Rx-8 newer than 2006 model (AFAIK).

lepichichi

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^^ it was a joke, by the way prices are crazy in norway

Ryoma-kun

Well a more liberal party is growing to become the biggest in Norway at the moment. The election is in Autum 09 and if they get elected, I hope we'll be getting some major changes in the tax system around here! D:

AJ's Shinka

Your not Italian! Wait are you? Baby bull?

j_tso

Liberal party favoring lower taxes on emissions? crazy.

I saw a on a recent episode of Fifth Gear, the UK gov is counting CO2 emissions into the vehicle taxes. RX-8 owners' registrations costs have skyrocketed.

MattMPS

But you people in Norway are one of the very few markets allowed to lease an Hydrogen Rx-8......

ASH8

No Normal RX-8's for sale in Norway or Hydro 8..

I don't think you can lease the Hydro model as it is also not shown available., I think they (Mazda) have just leased them to the Government...like in Japan.

Do you know any private buyers of a Hydro 8?..I don't.

www.mazda.no

ASH8

Yep, owners are offloading their 8's in droves, a 400 pound per year extra road tax.
The re-sale value has also taken a massive dive.

Just another reason their R3 will be the last RX-8 in the UK, I doubt it will last this year out.

You won't see any new rotaries in Europe soon and never again, not until Mazda reduces emissions considerably....enter the Hybrid Rotary...??.

Sad really, the world has been conned into Global Warming...Yes, the planet has been changing temp since the ice age...and it survives on CO2, what do they think green plants and trees survive on? Perhaps if the world (Humans) did not rape the forests we would not have this so called "High" CO2 level.

Sorry for the rant...but, CARS are not the problem.

shazy

Industries are the problems, and you can say that they are not the problem, but you cant say they arent part of it... FFS if they let all those diesel cars into Europe, why can't NA have them so that we can have more fuel efficient cars?

MattMPS

during the agreement Mazda had talked about "commercial lease" for 30 customers.

I dont think there is Mazda Norway involved....supervision it's under "so-called" "company"(a.k.a. Mazda Japan R&D) IMHO.

ASH8

Or MME....Mazda Motors Europe

PRX8

Either way, they need to build back the Rotary Reputation with a better engine

MattMPS

[QUOTE=PRX8;2915981]Either way, they need to build back the Rotary Reputation with a better engine[/QUOTE

sure.....less than USA... but lack of torque/power (and related with fuel consumption) it was wrote in all the Euro Car magazines, the common toughts are:

Rx-8? Great car, special engine and great handling ...BUT too much fuel for performances.....

fray

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When I was in Turino last summer, I was told they don't have many RX-8's in the area because of the local emissions laws.

Downtown Turino you wouldn't be allowed to drive the 8 as it doesn't meet the local downtown requirements. Even the 4 year old Alfo Romeo my friend was driving didn't meet the downtown regulations anymore.

Add to that the import price of the car, and it's simply not feasible to purchase an 8 in Italy, and much of Europe. (Even though the guys I was working with were drooling over the pictures of my car...)