shadycrew31

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The only good z was a 300zx... the 350's and 370's fold under pressure.

If you using it as a DD you have no problems, but any type of FI everything goes pop.

Back to topic Anyone have any info on the 16x?

Chibana

Another great feature of the 370Z (similar issues happened with the 350Z and C&D):

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ng_lap-feature

DailyDriver2k5

I am keeping my Rx-8, Its too good of an car to let go.

As far the Z, its a shame how it lost its sporting ways. The '90's were truly the best years for the Z cars. That VQ motor is powerful for the 350 and the 370Z but it consumes more oil than any rotary I know of. When I had my '02 Maxima with the Vq35 I would go through 2 and a half quarts a month , compared to 1 quart or 3/4 of a quart for my Rx-8. And I was doing the same commute that I am doing today , 55 miles one way.

People, press,and reviewers always look at rotaries as oil hogs, they fail to look at the Vq for what its worth, that motor has a serious thirst for oil.

Chibana

The reviews have all complained of the harshness, noise, and vibration of the VQ engine in the 370Z at high RPM. Angus Makenzie (sp?) at Motor Trend even went so far as to call it something like, "absolutely unacceptable" in a modern car, and it was alone enough of a reason for him to not buy one.

Jedi54

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we had one hell of a run.

madcows

All things must pass. At least it was good while it lasted. I commend Mazda for the wonderful car that is the RX-8.

I am very curious about the next generation RX car. With the ever increasing fuel efficiency requirements, I am doubtful that the 16X powered car will have FI. Then again, it's difficult to determine what will be possible with the pseudo-direct injection they're using. My only concern is that if they are in fact making another RX-7, people will be expecting it to be better than the FD in just about every way. So, will the be able to match to performance of the FD with an N/A 16X? Here's to hoping!

Chibana

I don't think the next RX car will have to be "better" than the FD (not sure how you would even judge "better," really). It just has to offer good performance at a reasonable price with sexy looks. One of the reasons the FD went away was that it was too expensive. This one will likely be reasonably priced, light, and lots of fun to drive just like the RX-8 and MX-5, but hopefully even lighter than the RX-8. It won't need to have FI if it makes 260+ hp, more torque than the RENESIS, and the car weighs well under 3000 lbs. (maybe 2800 lbs.?).

zoom44

26xx will be the weight

madcows

I was saying that if the next RX car was an RX-7, then it would have to perform better than the FD. Name a single sports car that didn't have higher performance than the model it replaced. I personally think it would be awesome for Mazda to have twins - the MX-5 and an RX-5 (different looks, and certainly a hard top for the RX), as well as keeping the RX-8, but offering an MX-8 for all the people who have no business driving a rotary powered car.

CyberPitz

^Too much overlapping

Symbioticgenius

Overlapping is single handedly how Nissan gained so much market share in the past 5 years. *Excluding this year which is all thanks to our friends at Toyota.

CyberPitz

Nissan is also HUGE compared to Mazda. Then again, I am not a business person at at all*

It just seems like the Mazda 3 and 6 are the BIGGEST thing saving Mazda in this time of the economy, while having four vehicles, with 2 unique ideas *the RX8/MX8 and MX5/RX5*....it would hurt them more than help.

An observation, not a fact.

ZoomZoomH

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maybe they'll send off the RX-8 in grand fashion and build a super awesome R4 Spirit R uber final efini X-Men edition RX-8. if they do i may pick one up when they are on still on the lot in 2012, lol

ASH8

You are correct mate...

Soon to be Mazda USA 2,3,5 and 6.. Always has been their bread and butter cars..

You should of had the Mazda 2 years ago..

Nissan Australia has Lost Market share to Mazda..4.8 to 8%..

Here the Mazda 3 now outsells the Toyota Corolla...who said the smiley face will not work?

The Mazda 2 is above Yaris now, only the Getz (Hyundai i thing) is in front.

RX and MX have never been REAL Volume sellers for Mazda and they are not meant to be...and it is also due to capacity.

Hofu plants make the 3 and 6...24/7
Hiroshima makes everything else (except Mazda's Suzuki made micros)
Hiroshima (Ujina) plant is the Oldest and less "high tech" when compared to Hofu.

ASH8

Don't be surprised that they won't...The chances are very real for a send off model, but for JDM only in about 18 months.

IMO the 8 will still be made for some time...like the 7.

Remember, Mazda have never really stopped making rotaries for 40 years.

xsnipersgox

great.. 3 years to save money for the next rotary *fingers crossed*

kennyfrc1

iTrader: (6)

Great handling only takes you so far, and while this car handles excpetionally well it's really underpowered compared to it's competition. Really the only people who are willing to overlook this are people who track the car or those who just like the rotary. The problem is that these people represent the smallest portion of the car buying market.

Chibana

That's not entirely true. Look at all the people who buy the MX-5 even though it's slower than the RX-8. Regardless, my point was that in a light car (26## lbs. would be fantastic), you don't need FI or huge power and torque numbers. There is no need for FI if the new RX car makes what they're saying the 1.6L will be able to make. The RX-8 is not much slower than the OEM turbo FD RX-7, and it's chassis is better.

AggieLuke

So is 2011 the last year for the 8 in the States or globally? I would think that if this is globally, Mazda might do a little more for the swansong. However if this is just a US thing, I'll be happy if we get a badge...

Psylence

I'd bet money its "everywhere but Japan.." remember the FD crapped out in 1995 here but they kept selling it until 2003 in Japan.

I'm guessing that Mazda will continue to sell special edition 8's in Japan as they continue to tinker with the 16x. When they stop selling ANY rotary in Japan its either new model time, or end of the line for the rotary.

ASH8

As far as I know there has been NO official announcement that the 8 is finishing..

Yes..In Europe due to Euro 5 Emissions.
Yes. In USA, but not confirmed officially...Charlie might find out from JB.

No News from Australia YET...
No News from Japan (Mazda) yet where the 8 is made.

zoom44

yeah its definite in the states that 2011 is the last MY. I am assuming that means Canada as well but ya never know.

I have heard nothing about anywhere else besides Europe and US. Russia/Middle East/SA?AUS /Japan/Singapore are still going forward as far as we know.

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

wow - just wow

such a great chassis to see go away...

imop45

there's no source

ASH8

Mazda South Africa stopped importing the 8 long before the Series 1 finished according to Phillip (Black SA RX-8 in South Africa with many failed Bridge Ported RENESIS Engines).

Had a quick Look Around the WORRLD (Troll)

Looks like Thailand, China No Longer Imports..

Philippines Don't (Not sure if they ever have?)

LEBANON,Bahrain, Saudi Arabia,Kuwait,Israel,UAE,Columbia,Ecuador,Mexico,V ENEZUELA... Don't.

Chile, PUERTO RICO,Malaysia,Taiwan,Indonesia,Hong Kong ..DOES

And of course Europe is now OUT..