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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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More speculation spreading around in other Mazda forums. Here's one...

"One of our techs got back from school and apparantly someone there spilled the beans on what's under the hood of that mule.

A Supercharged Rotory. Yes. S/C. Along with a better oiling system to help them apex seals last longer, the S/C (he was told) puts out 6psi AT IDLE.

Should debut in the 2009 or 2010 MAZDASPEED RX-8.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by altspace
More speculation spreading around in other Mazda forums. Here's one...

"One of our techs got back from school and apparantly someone there spilled the beans on what's under the hood of that mule.

A Supercharged Rotory. Yes. S/C. Along with a better oiling system to help them apex seals last longer, the S/C (he was told) puts out 6psi AT IDLE.

Should debut in the 2009 or 2010 MAZDASPEED RX-8.
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I'm all for big factory boost... but supercharged?

Does Mazda have any experience with superchargers?
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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yes, the milenia was supercharge
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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yes, the milenia was supercharge
No way, I never knew that thing had a SC. Thats pretty funny.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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The Millenia S I believe.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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climate control .... yeah! heated and cooled seats... woot!
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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No way, I never knew that thing had a SC. Thats pretty funny.
Yes. The Millenia S model it was. Not only supercharged, but also a Miller Cycle engine too. Mazda was going bonkers with new engineering at the time.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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You have to hand it to Mazda- they may achieve total surprise when they unveil this car- no one has a clue, and it's almost showtime.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Just a quick question regarding Trubo vs Supercharger

Would emmissions standards be easier to achieve with the supercharger at idle? If so I can certaily see mazda choosing to go this route vs turbo
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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I don't think it matters at idle. You're not under boost in either situation so they can tune the engine lean enough to meet emissions standards regardless of FI or not.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Detroit - I Will Be There

I will be attending Detroit Press Says for the launch on Monday. As with the original RX-8, I will try to post pictures here as soon as possible after the launch. Look hear Monday, January 15ht around 3:00PM CST.
Cheers!

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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I don't think it matters at idle. You're not under boost in either situation so they can tune the engine lean enough to meet emissions standards regardless of FI or not.
Its the CA 3k rpm dyno test you have to watch out for.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Here is a large picture of Furai Teaser, people can use it as a Wallpaper.

Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by boowana
i will be attending Detroit Press Says for the launch on Monday. As with the original RX-8, I will try to post pictures here as soon as possible after the launch. Look hear Monday, January 15ht around 3:00PM CST.
Cheers!
Thanks!!

cant wait to see them
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Thx Rmagic, but check page 2.
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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I don't think it matters at idle. You're not under boost in either situation so they can tune the engine lean enough to meet emissions standards regardless of FI or not.
I was just thinking that even at idle the exhaust gases in a turbo aplication still have to run by the turbo before hitting the cat possibley increasing the time it takes the cat to get up to temp and function at 100%.

Or is it such a minor thing that it would be negligble?
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by boowana
i will be attending Detroit Press Says for the launch on Monday. As with the original RX-8, I will try to post pictures here as soon as possible after the launch. Look hear Monday, January 15ht around 3:00PM CST.
Cheers!
I'll also be there. Looking forward to it.

I'm not sure I buy the 6psi at idle. It's possible, but why? It takes energy to generate boost. Why would they be wasting this energy at idle?
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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I'll also be there. Looking forward to it.

I'm not sure I buy the 6psi at idle. It's possible, but why? It takes energy to generate boost. Why would they be wasting this energy at idle?
Exactly my thoughts. It makes no sense to be making boost at idle. It would simply be a waste of gas.
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Thx Rmagic, but check page 2.
Hmm, I wonder how I missed that.. I guess, sorry for the repost?!
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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I haven't seen anything that talks about a supercharger and I know what changes are going to be made to the engine.
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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changes are going to be made to the engine.
Here is all I heard RG I like the sound of it so far!
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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You'll find out soon enough. They aren't what many hope they will be but they are what is needed to fix certain issues. It's going to be a good thing though. I'm not really at liberty to discuss it any further though. Wait a couple of weeks.
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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You'll find out soon enough. They aren't what many hope they will be but they are what is needed to fix certain issues. It's going to be a good thing though. I'm not really at liberty to discuss it any further though. Wait a couple of weeks.
(Resists sudden urge to demote RG to Rotary **** Tease)

Your mean and I hope a Walruss farts on your head!
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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hey i like that sig quote caveman- renesis 1.5? hmmmmmm sounds like that would something between the current renesis and the renesis version 2.0(16x)


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