YaXMaNGTO

4-5 years? Seriously? As in "not coming out next year"? Aww fawk.

bulletproof21

I didnt expect it next year, but 4-5 sure seems a long way off. Hopefully it is something in between, like 2010 in a 2011 model.

rotarygod

What year did the Renesis come out? Was it '03? Somewhere around there. The side port rotary was first shown to the public in 1995. Mazda has been working on direct injection since the mid '80's. It's only been fairly recently that they've changed the dimensions to the 16X size and again the DI setup is drastically different from anything we've seen them try previously. I think 4-5 years is fairly safe as far as assumptions on time go. If it's sooner then great! Even better. The thing that may make it appear sooner is the very thing that could kill it before it ever becomes reality and that is world economy. I'd rather expect several years and see it sooner than expect less and be disappointed when it doesn't happen.

Musker

This is actually pretty exciting

onefatsurfer

yeah. plus i won't be ready to get another car for at least 4 years anyway, so..
hope they hold off and just keep making it better..

zoom44

your forgetting what we learned last year tho- that they have actually been working this since the renesis was finished and production starting. i agree tho- better to be pleasantly surprised when it comes earlier than be disappointed

knicks1984

I agree on taking a couple of years to make, but by then it's unsure what the economy will be like and also the status of the CAFE laws. I would expect it to come out in 2011 as a 2012 model. Hopefully the government and economy won't hurt the Rx.

Lasse wankel

Hmm... it would be nice to do a 1 rotor Renesis test engine with DI port injection with the new Australian made Vi-Pec V44 injection system controlling everything hmm again...

/Lasse

HeavyMetal699

I actually used google to find out the cafe laws and they are a bit different from what I thought.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/CARS/rules/CAFE/overview.htm

So if they up the fleet MPG it just means the RX-8 will cost more.

Of course there is more. If anyone wants to read the final draft and summerize the important parts please do.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...7529cdba046a0/

Blackout04RX

i have two questions. is our motor seriously that light?! I knew it was light but thats insane. i have lifted blocks on 4Cyl Hondas, nissans, a VR6 out of a VW, and a LOVELY rusted out empty carcass of a Chevy V8. none of which were in any way pleasant to lift.

77mjd

If something better is not out late next year as a '10, looks like it's a 370z for me. I have an '04 8 and there's no way in hell I'm waiting 4 more years for a better rotary. The November auto show should be making my decision for me. I'm hoping Mazda is just playing dumb in how tight lipped they are being about the new rotary.

vX-2

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Any idea on expected WHP/BHP ? (assuming it's a 2 rotor, but I really hope for a 3-rotor, since they could improve on the MPG like they've claimed they could do)...

It'll be sweet if it could do a rough 350-400HP @ N/a.... Lolz... am i dreaming?

robrecht

Yes, you're dreaming. It's a 2-rotor, probably 280-300 bhp.

EdwardsB

has anyone heard anything about the readline...with the increase in displacement the rpm's may be lowered, I remember reading that they were trying to overcome this a while back. Does anyone have any new information on this, although they will probably withhold this until the last minute.


here is a thread from Paul where you can hear it run...in case you missed this-
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=16x

rollerbldes

The 09s have direct injection.. do they not?

So at least that's some progress. But I don't think the 16x will utilize the RX-8 body, probably something completely different. I mean they just refreshed the RX-8, so I doubt it will come very soon.

SayNoToPistons

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The revised RX8 just came out for 2009. So, it's 370z for you.

rotarygod

Direct injection has not been implemented on a production rotary yet.

chiketkd

iTrader: (5)

From the 20-23% increase in power Mazda projected when they showed the 16X Renesis, that estimate seems about right. Torque should be around 200ft-lbs.

CyberPitz

You'd rather them rush it out and have some possible engine failures? Or have them work on it a little longer to make sure its' going to be at 100%?

77mjd

The problem is I have an '04 and if it takes 3-4 more years for the new one to come out I will be over 100,000 miles and honestly I don't want it after the engine warranty is over.

CyberPitz

That would suck...going RIGHT over the warranty, engine dies, 16x comes out a year later. *facepalm*

hry_glb

Time for another 4-5 years instant noodles spree.

GaMEChld

Aluminum eh? rotarygod, if you are listening, can you speculate anything on the strength or longevity of the engine making a switch to aluminum? Would this make it too risky to turbo or anything like that? (Just theories of course).

dillsrotary

the new EVO engine switched to aluminium block instead of iron, though it is piston the strength is more than enough for the boost.

Huey52

iTrader: (2)

Excellent. I didn't realize until reviewing this that the upcoming 16X has the same overall footprint as the present engine, yet greater displacement and therefore power. Ya gotta love ever improving materials technology! Well done Mazda!!!