2007 Rx-8
03-14-2006, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nucleus
I have information from Japan that leads me to believe the increased displacement is a go for 2007...
Mazda's show cars are frequently good predictors of where they are going, DI is coming too...
The 16B DI will be a big help, but the FI 16B DI will excel...
Let's just pray that Mazda will sell us one without a FRACKING SUNROOF!
Nucleus
Mazda's show cars are frequently good predictors of where they are going, DI is coming too...
The 16B DI will be a big help, but the FI 16B DI will excel...
Let's just pray that Mazda will sell us one without a FRACKING SUNROOF!
Nucleus
2007 Rx-8
03-14-2006, 09:31 AM
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Nucleus, if you're getting my hopes up for nothing you're going to make me cry...in front of people...some of which may be women. I hope you can live with yourself if that happens.
03-14-2006, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike
60k is still a pretty good volume for a sportcar and the Miata is even more of a niche car than the RX-8. The US was also supposed to be limited to 3,000 STIs a year, but demand was higher so they ramped up production, it's also far more of a niche car than the RX-8.
I agree that the gas prices are having an effect, but the drop in sales for the RX-8 is pretty drastic even compared to other cars in its segment that are a little thirsty on gas.
I agree that the gas prices are having an effect, but the drop in sales for the RX-8 is pretty drastic even compared to other cars in its segment that are a little thirsty on gas.
Considering the 8 has been basically the same with no upgrades for 3 years, I think its done pretty well..
03-14-2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 280RX-8
The oil concerns are just an example of how misinformation can spread and cause a lot of concern for the uninformed. A quart of oil or so a month isn't that big a deal, especially if you're not using synthetic. I know one lady who says she never adds oil, but she gets it changed religiously, so I guess it never gets too low.
A rotary is designed to "use" a little oil as part of it lubrication/cooling, the amount of oil depends on the owners RPM range and use/mileage of the car.
If you use the car for an hour a day compared to an owner who drives 3 or more hours a day then your monthly oil use is going to be lower.....the more you drive the more you use.
Because the Rotary has ALWAYS used oil does not mean that there is something wrong..and RX-8 owner gets to know his car and easily falls into a routine of checking oil level...to some its TOO much trouble, then again I say do your research before you buy...
03-14-2006, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Ito some its TOO much trouble, then again I say do your research before you buy...
Everything in life is pros and cons -- cost and benefit. You can lump these concerns into the "cons" bin for sure. How much they're weighted is up to you. Lack of research is not why the sales are down, that's for sure.
03-14-2006, 04:14 PM
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FWIW I think the 8 will eventually be replaced with the Senku. Saw an article on the Senku on MSN.ca today and to me it looks like it will be the RX8 version 2.0 
It is expected to still use the rotary but together with an electric hybrid system. This could possibly be Mazda's solution for both MPG and power output.
Here's the link http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/as/...6&src=minishow
It is expected to still use the rotary but together with an electric hybrid system. This could possibly be Mazda's solution for both MPG and power output.Here's the link http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/as/...6&src=minishow
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03-14-2006, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Murray
FWIW I think the 8 will eventually be replaced with the Senku. Saw an article on the Senku on MSN.ca today and to me it looks like it will be the RX8 version 2.0 It is expected to still use the rotary but together with an electric hybrid system. This could possibly be Mazda's solution for both MPG and power output.
Here's the link http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/as/...6&src=minishow
It is expected to still use the rotary but together with an electric hybrid system. This could possibly be Mazda's solution for both MPG and power output.Here's the link http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/as/...6&src=minishow
03-14-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
But that's just it. car magazines are reporting on this issue so that people can be informed when researching. A lot of people don't like the idea of having to remember to check the oil so frequently or making sure the engine is warmed up before shutting down. These are legitimate real world occurrences that were very prevalent in the earlier models especially. What others are calling "misinformation" I'm calling dead on truth. Some people just don't mind the hassle.
Everything in life is pros and cons -- cost and benefit. You can lump these concerns into the "cons" bin for sure. How much they're weighted is up to you. Lack of research is not why the sales are down, that's for sure.
Everything in life is pros and cons -- cost and benefit. You can lump these concerns into the "cons" bin for sure. How much they're weighted is up to you. Lack of research is not why the sales are down, that's for sure.
The review (by Sam Mitani) goes on to say: "The RX-8's straight-line performance was impressive indeed" " I found this powerplant , much like the Honda S2000's VTEC...produced most of its power in the upper rev range." When researching the car in 2002-2003 articles like this whetted my appetite and were all we had to go on. ( I wonder how much Mazda paid for reviews like these)
At the beginning of the review these lines NOW appears almost prophetic: in 1996 The car was called the RX-01 and the company was hoping to introduce the 220 bhp 2 seater for about half the price of its flagship sports car. It also has this line: Ford took contolling interest in Mzada and said " Upscale sports cars and rotary engines don't make sense in today's marketplace."
My point is this, the early reviews all dwelled on the POSITIVES with glowing praise of performance, but then, after the RX-8 had been selling, the reviews zeroed in on the negatives, and this may have had an effect on sales.
03-15-2006, 02:07 PM
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2007 Rx-8
Originally Posted by robrecht
Oh, well, then it must be true! 
Hundred bucks says the 2007 RX-8 will have increased displacement.
Nucleus
03-15-2006, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nucleus
You sound doubtful... Care to place a public wager?
Hundred bucks says the 2007 RX-8 will have increased displacement.
Nucleus
Hundred bucks says the 2007 RX-8 will have increased displacement.
Nucleus
03-15-2006, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nucleus
You sound doubtful... Care to place a public wager?
Hundred bucks says the 2007 RX-8 will have increased displacement.
Nucleus
Hundred bucks says the 2007 RX-8 will have increased displacement.
Nucleus
Do you believe everything you read on the Internet?
03-16-2006, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
The chatter that I've heard about future displacement is different than any I've seen mentioned on this forum. I can't say much else at this time.
Paul.
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What the hell is mazda up to?
03-16-2006, 11:08 AM
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It will come with Chrome 30 inch wheels, Luis Vuitton leather interior, stereo with blinking lights, a new paint color (pink, neon green, or rainbow), 5-inch wheel gap to extend wheels to stick out, huge *** wing (front and back), and... puffy dice cubes on your rearview mirror. This is Mazda's idea of "upgrading" the RX-8. "Forget about power," Mazda execs say, "We need more bling!"
03-17-2006, 12:05 AM
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[QUOTE=saturn]But that's just it. car magazines are reporting on this issue so that people can be informed when researching. A lot of people don't like the idea of having to remember to check the oil so frequently or making sure the engine is warmed up before shutting down. These are legitimate real world occurrences that were very prevalent in the earlier models especially. What others are calling "misinformation" I'm calling dead on truth. Some people just don't mind the hassle.
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It's called misinformation when you exaggerate and overblow the dead-on truth. What some people consider a hassle is called being responsible and taking car of your stuff.
P.S. Except for the flooding. That is a major inconvenience, even if they do fix it for free. But, it can be avoided. I hate to start up my car to move it 10 feet anyway, and then there's the "rev to three grand or so trick" if you have to drive somewhere that's too close to get warmed up.
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It's called misinformation when you exaggerate and overblow the dead-on truth. What some people consider a hassle is called being responsible and taking car of your stuff.
P.S. Except for the flooding. That is a major inconvenience, even if they do fix it for free. But, it can be avoided. I hate to start up my car to move it 10 feet anyway, and then there's the "rev to three grand or so trick" if you have to drive somewhere that's too close to get warmed up.
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03-17-2006, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Xyntax
It will come with Chrome 30 inch wheels, Luis Vuitton leather interior, stereo with blinking lights, a new paint color (pink, neon green, or rainbow), 5-inch wheel gap to extend wheels to stick out, huge *** wing (front and back), and... puffy dice cubes on your rearview mirror. This is Mazda's idea of "upgrading" the RX-8. "Forget about power," Mazda execs say, "We need more bling!"