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Why Is Mazda Testing This RX-8 at the Nurburgring?

Old Aug 16, 2019 | 06:35 PM
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Why Is Mazda Testing This RX-8 at the Nurburgring?

http://apple.news/AUUsQUqzoOHSq5bD-GCKWJA
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 03:17 AM
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They finally finished the 16X
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Old Aug 19, 2019 | 11:28 AM
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Someone spray painted their rx-8 and drove around the track to troll photographers.
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Old Aug 19, 2019 | 05:49 PM
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A better question is why are you using Apple News; they don’t spy on you enough already or something?
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Old Aug 19, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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A better question is why are you using Apple News; they don’t spy on you enough already or something?
I think this is a very good article regarding privacy. Written by a retired Microsoft engineer.

https://askleo.com/privacy-what-privacy/
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 06:54 AM
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They’re testing a turbocharged Miata engine in Sheep’s clothing.
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 05:11 PM
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I'm unable to view the article... so sad
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 06:58 PM
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It’s not just that level of privacy. The more apps you allow access the more vulnerable you are. There’s also the issue of these tech companies trying to usurp everything for their own purpose, including subverting our very constitution, for power and financial gain. Beyond squeezing every last cent out of you they could otherwise care less about your life or future. Rather disconcerting how clueless and unaware people are today with what’s going on.
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
It’s not just that level of privacy. The more apps you allow access the more vulnerable you are. There’s also the issue of these tech companies trying to usurp everything for their own purpose, including subverting our very constitution, for power and financial gain. Beyond squeezing every last cent out of you they could otherwise care less about your life or future. Rather disconcerting how clueless and unaware people are today with what’s going on.
this from the guy with the Buy-ble quote in his Sig, jeez
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
It’s not just that level of privacy. The more apps you allow access the more vulnerable you are. There’s also the issue of these tech companies trying to usurp everything for their own purpose, including subverting our very constitution, for power and financial gain. Beyond squeezing every last cent out of you they could otherwise care less about your life or future. Rather disconcerting how clueless and unaware people are today with what’s going on.
Meh, I have more important matters to worry about in life.

Maybe join those natives living in the jungle. No Internet or technology means you are completely safe.
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
It’s not just that level of privacy. The more apps you allow access the more vulnerable you are. There’s also the issue of these tech companies trying to usurp everything for their own purpose, including subverting our very constitution, for power and financial gain. Beyond squeezing every last cent out of you they could otherwise care less about your life or future. Rather disconcerting how clueless and unaware people are today with what’s going on.
Hey I think I recognise the talking points. Careful your judgement isn't usurped by someone else for power and financial gain.
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 08:44 AM
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I could care less about privacy, security, passwords, locks, LifeLock, AlarmMe, and the entire, largely BS, multi-billion dollar security circus industry that’s largely succeeded in scaring the fear-driven morons in this country over the last two decades. I love asking office and stadium security staff “hey, tell me... how many terrorists have ya caught this week? No, really... a dozen? Half a dozen?? Have you caught even ONE terrorist in the past 5 years??

What a complete and utter waste of time and money. A total crock. I don’t even lock my door... and I live in the heart of NYC.
Really? Because you haven't been burgled it follows that you will never be burgled?
If your RX8 hasn't failed in 50,000km, it follows that it will never fail?

Security is primarily a deterrent, not a means to catch anyone. It's there to make an attack (of any sort, even pickpocketing) as difficult to execute as possible, so the would be attackers go elsewhere. Fort Knox security doesn't catch gold thieves, because no gold thieves are dumb enough to even attempt it.

The actual catching happens in planning stages through intelligence services. If an attacker is on premises and site security is your last recourse, a whole bunch of things went wrong earlier in the process.

That's why lone gunmen are so difficult to anticipate and stop. The planning stages are all in their head. Also why you all need gun control. Can't plan an attack if you don't have a weapon and need other people to procure one. It makes him more vulnerable in planning. The wet dream of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun is only a wet dream: the attacker will always have initiative and surprise on site security and any good guys in the area.

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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 09:01 AM
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All this over an RX-8 on the Nürburgring? What's going to happen if one drives on Laguna Seca? Trump rallies?
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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So, to get back on topic:

I think Mazda is trolling us while testing out their rotary range extender engine.
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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I think the 2020 Corvette and Supra are scaring companies like Mazda to have a halo car, hence Mazda is testing something sporty with 4 seats. I hope the can get back to offering an outstanding handling 4 seater with some oomph (formerly known as zoom)
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wannawankel
I think the 2020 Corvette and Supra are scaring companies like Mazda to have a halo car, hence Mazda is testing something sporty with 4 seats. I hope the can get back to offering an outstanding handling 4 seater with some oomph (formerly known as zoom)
GM and Toyota(and BMW) are way richer and bigger than Mazda has ever been. They just have the resources to pull it off.

Also, notice the context for the two cars you mentioned. One is an American image that has been around for 66 years(not counting that little gap in 83), so the heritage of the Corvette means it will be sticking around. Corvette engines are also the basis for GM truck engines, so the R&D money is a non-issue with the economies of scale. The other is a joint venture, which means lowered R&D cost for both parties involved. Again, economies of scale.

Mazda is struggling to make money so I don't expect them to release an RX anytime soon. Doesn't help that they currently appeal to a diminishing market, and their more luxury approach is gonna be tough as well. Even something like a rotary Miata will be a lot to ask for due to the emission standards nowadays, and you have to make rotaries last longer to appeal to more people.

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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX
GM and Toyota(and BMW) are way richer and bigger than Mazda has ever been. They just have the resources to pull it off.

Also, notice the context for the two cars you mentioned. One is an American image that has been around for 66 years(not counting that little gap in 83), so the heritage of the Corvette means it will be sticking around. Corvette engines are also the basis for GM truck engines, so the R&D money is a non-issue with the economies of scale. The other is a joint venture, which means lowered R&D cost for both parties involved. Again, economies of scale.

Mazda is struggling to make money so I don't expect them to release an RX anytime soon. Doesn't help that they currently appeal to a diminishing market, and their more luxury approach is gonna be tough as well. Even something like a rotary Miata will be a lot to ask for due to the emission standards nowadays, and you have to make rotaries last longer to appeal to more people.
They need to jump into the awd market. sure their cross overs are but about any new vehicle I see on the road is a majority of awd.
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 08:06 PM
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They need to jump into the awd market. sure their cross overs are but about any new vehicle I see on the road is a majority of awd.
Well, Mazda is dabbing into it with their 3. I have recently read a C&D article(bought the mag to kill some time on the airplane) comparing 5 hatchbacks with manual trans on the market: Corolla, Golf, Elantra N-line, 3, Civic. The new 3 came in second. They noted how it's now very expensive(it was the most expensive on the list due to the manual trans being a higher trim option), and going for luxury means losing some sportiness that was previously associated with the brand.

As for the 6... Camry and Accord both sell FWD and do just okay. They have the AWD version outside of America so they might bring it here.
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX
Mazda is struggling to make money so I don't expect them to release an RX anytime soon. Doesn't help that they currently appeal to a diminishing market, and their more luxury approach is gonna be tough as well. Even something like a rotary Miata will be a lot to ask for due to the emission standards nowadays, and you have to make rotaries last longer to appeal to more people.
He never said anything about a rotary. The rotary is dead. He said 4 seat sports car with some zoom. That could easily be a 2.x L turbo. If they had such a thing, I would have just bought one.
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Old Aug 22, 2019 | 05:57 AM
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Anyone think it's just a test mule for the I-6 they are supposedly developing?

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/09/...ines-official/
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Old Aug 24, 2019 | 08:46 AM
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YES AND... on the I6 front. It would be a perfect test mule for that. If Mazda could make a very sporty, upscale 2+2 using most of the style elements of the Vision concept with an turbocharged I6 - that would be a game changer. For many of my friends, we're still in that stage of life where 4 seats are needed - even for couples' date night or a driving vacation for three or four. Any testing they do on the I6 in the RX8.2 test mule would be usable across other I6 platforms like a Mazda6, Miata XL-VRT Platinum, and so forth. Heck Mazda could borrow the Toyobaru platform frame, insert TC'd I6 engine, for this new sporty 2+2 tha tI dream about. In the meantime, I'll drive my RX8 with a smile.
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 04:33 PM
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You can barely fit an I-4 in the engine bay originally designed for a highly setback 2 rotor keg and then only by trimming the firewall/tunnel, so fitting two more inline cylinders should be no bfd right?

Unless they extended the hood another 12” to look as full tard as that hot-mess concept heap then I’m kind of not seeing it.

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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
You can barely fit an I-4 in the engine bay originally designed for a highly setback 2 rotor keg and then only by trimming the firewall/tunnel, so fitting two more inline cylinders should be no bfd right?

Unless they extended the hood another 12” to look as full tard as that hot-mess concept heap then I’m kind of not seeing it.
Well people have stuffed ls2 V8 in the rx8. So it's not impossible with some creative relocation of components.
I'm definitely all for an i6 rwd sporty car ever since BMW went all turbo. The estimated 345hp out of an NA 3.0 engine is pretty lofty. That's more than the s54 in the E46 M3.
MX-8 anyone?
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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Well people have stuffed ls2 V8 in the rx8. So it's not impossible with some creative relocation of components.
I'm definitely all for an i6 rwd sporty car ever since BMW went all turbo. The estimated 345hp out of an NA 3.0 engine is pretty lofty. That's more than the s54 in the E46 M3.
MX-8 anyone?
Well yes, but a V8 is shorter than an inline 6. An inline 4 and V8 shouldn't be much different length wise since there's 2 banks of 4 cylinders instead of one row of 6 cylinders.
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Engine bay is dimensionally limited for a wide-angle DOHC V engine (like the Ford Coyote), but length is no issue. There are already 1JZ/2JZ RX-8's with no cutting of the firewall.

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