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p-trix 02-11-2010 10:13 PM

why hasnt been the power steering issue been addressed with the rx8..
 
after my own problem and problems of others along with various issues read about online why hasnt the rx8 power steering been addressed...ive read about people not having or experiencing radom powersteering issues

RIWWP 02-11-2010 10:20 PM

Links? The only issues with power steering I have seen on the forums were directly caused by water or dirt getting in the connector, usually during some type of engine bay work.

What issues are you reading about?

Marklar 02-11-2010 10:21 PM

What issue? First I've heard of this.

sebarx8 02-11-2010 10:24 PM

this is the rx8 club man no the lexus club!!!!

p-trix 02-11-2010 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 3428195)
Links? The only issues with power steering I have seen on the forums were directly caused by water or dirt getting in the connector, usually during some type of engine bay work.

What issues are you reading about?

erratic power steering, powersteering going into limp mode...when talking with galpin mazda last week they did say that my power steering was an issue but not part of a recall but they have heard about the problem...also doing research on it ive ran into posts where people have had the issue...mine actually went out while driving...

Jon316G 02-11-2010 10:27 PM

Many (including myself) have experienced power steering loss while driving.
The contacts in the connector get tarnished and power steering is gone.
Also caused by the coolant's overflow hose directed right at the connectors.
Many install a longer hose because of this.

OSducky 02-12-2010 04:57 PM

this is also a concern I am having, after forking out $500 for a mis-diagnosis on my power steering from one dealership and another dealership telling me it's the power steering rack OR the Power steering control module AFTER replacing the wiring harness and power steering control module ........... it's a huge problem and one i would love an answer too

p-trix 02-15-2010 02:30 PM

thinking about filing

http://www.safercar.gov/

Zapatero3 02-23-2010 12:14 AM

I had power steering issue about 2 years ago on my 04 Rx8 and dealer replaced rack/pinion. Worked till about 3 months ago. Took it back to the dealer and first they said that since it had been over a year (parts are covered only 1 year), that they would need to call Mazda and see if they would cover the cost. Dealer called me back stating that Mazda would cover to replace the rack/pinion again, but not the labor. So I will need to dish out $400 in labor. And Mazda would cover about $2000.

Uncivilizedracer 02-23-2010 04:40 PM

I'm on my second rack and pinion right now and this one is failing , the first one the steering would completely fail and lock to one side or the other while driving. This one after the year time frame was up it started hesitating and either denying or forcing the turn or just a choppy hesitate all the way through. Pretty scary stuff when its random on the highway. I was told by two dealer that this part is not covered under normal warranty and I would have to fork the bill myself for a new one. Def a problem and I have heard many others that have had issues with it. Just not enough for Mazda to consider it a recall issue. I just totally disabled the motor all together and run with out power steering till I can get something figured out.

mysql101 02-23-2010 04:54 PM

It is fairly common for the power steering to fail. It's an easy fix. Either get a new harness or redo some of the connection points. It happened randomly for me. Drove to work - all was fine. Got in to go home, and no power steering. Dealer fixed it at no cost to me.

Here's a thread about it from 2005:

https://www.rx8club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69812

Uncivilizedracer 03-02-2010 09:25 AM

Yeah had 3 connectors replaced and made one myself still a fail on their part either way it needs to be addressed to Mazda. IMO especially after seeing this
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gm_recall

tablesRX8 06-07-2011 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Uncivilizedracer (Post 3444185)
I'm on my second rack and pinion right now and this one is failing , the first one the steering would completely fail and lock to one side or the other while driving. This one after the year time frame was up it started hesitating and either denying or forcing the turn or just a choppy hesitate all the way through. Pretty scary stuff when its random on the highway. I was told by two dealer that this part is not covered under normal warranty and I would have to fork the bill myself for a new one. Def a problem and I have heard many others that have had issues with it. Just not enough for Mazda to consider it a recall issue. I just totally disabled the motor all together and run with out power steering till I can get something figured out.

Howd u disable it?

van 08-16-2011 12:08 AM

Anyone with power steering issues, I recommend you report it here:

In the US:

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

In Canada:

https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur....aspx?lang=eng

The more complaints received, the quicker an investigation can be done and recall issued.

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Update:

From what my Mazda tech tells me, it's usually either one of two things:

1. The power steering harness.
2. Power Steering Rack (either the motor or torque sensor).

He says the power steering control module usually never goes bad, and either of the above two are almost always the culprit. Also if you Google what people have done to fix the problem, it's replacing either or both of the above 2 culprits.


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TruthIsReality 11-01-2011 07:07 PM

Mine went out while driving but after shutting it off and turning it back on it worked again, I found it odd.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 11-02-2011 09:07 AM

^That's how mine started. It went out all the way a few weeks later. Replaced the connections, been trouble free for a few months now.

Chris 11-02-2011 09:15 AM

there are people that also have issues with the power steering noise filter.

If you are experiencing issues with "lumpy" steering or maybe it is harder to turn the wheel in one direction as apposed to the other, then you may need to replace the power steering noise filter

BReal-10EC 12-15-2011 05:31 PM

Any solutions safely clean the tarnish from the connections?
And by safely- I mean a solution that won't dissolve the plastic.
Maybe some ammonia type solution?

9krpmrx8 12-15-2011 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by BReal-10EC (Post 4145892)
Any solutions safely clean the tarnish from the connections?
And by safely- I mean a solution that won't dissolve the plastic.
Maybe some ammonia type solution?


Why clean it, just replace it.

Wallets 12-15-2011 06:12 PM

or you could just cut the lines and solder them together or crimp them together... I just soldered my wires together a year and a half ago and never had an issue since. I also extended the overflow hose and wrapped the wires in electrical tape and shrink wrap.

On another note this issue has been addressed alot if you would search you would find different solutions to attempt to resolve the issue

BReal-10EC 12-15-2011 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4145897)
Why clean it, just replace it.

I am looking for a cheaper/easier/quicker solution.
(I am either cheap, lazy, or just very "efficient")

And googling rx8 steering harness gets me nothing.

How much, and where do I get one?

Prophet 12-17-2011 10:01 AM

I had mine ho out while messing around in a wet lot at work. Shut the car off and turned it back on, steering worked fine. I chalked it up to some kind of computer hick-up.

TeamRX8 12-17-2011 10:05 AM

Apparently you are too cheap, lazy, or efficient to pick up the phone and call the dealership parts dept. They get paid to deal with geniuses, we don't

tablesRX8 01-17-2012 04:11 PM

which wires do you soder together? are there wires behind the connection ontop of the steering motor if i unscrew the connection point? if that makes any sense lol

RIWWP 01-17-2012 04:16 PM

The connectors that cause trouble. Basically just wiring that together so you have the same electrical connection, just no quick disconnect.

If that doesn't make sense to you then your level of knowledge about wiring is WAY too low for you to be doing this properly. Not a bash or flame, just truth. DO NOT try doing this unless you know what you are doing.


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