Why do people hate on 8's so much?
 

I used to be on VW forum and never saw any hates. Rsx forum had a few but not as much as here haha. Why do people hate so much?:mchase:

because their ignorance blinds them.
the rotary technology is toooo much for some ppl to understand

i dont exactly understand, there shouldnt be anyone hating on an 8 in here?

No, other people. Not people in the forum. People hating on people that own 8's

who cares?

I've yet to see 8 hate. Well, in person. There was that egg incident.

I hate RX8's forever.... cept mine. :)

I used to be a hater. I was a Honda guy once, and thought of rotaries to be like a bulb. Today it wors and tomorow it just goes out. But theres so much more to that. When you dont know something you go by what you hear, and sometimes you actually believe it to be truth. Ignorance might be the word you are looking for. Haters just dont know shit, even though the believe to know it all, or they just failed rotary owners who dont know better than to talk crap becouse they couldnt understand the way of the rotary. I repect everybodies opinion and car preference, and actually like, respect and enjoy other cars but nothing beats my 8.

im a hater but thats just to spice things up i like being e devils advocate

yeah what about the "the rx8 is damn fast" thread?

I get nothing but looks complements and thumbs up when I drive my rx-8 around here

I always get the "its a girl's car" comment but i shut them up by asking them to have a ride in mine. Seems to work so far.

people are slow today

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Never had anyone say anything to my face , so I don't care ................

^I get the same shit.. at random parties when I drive my 8 there. Someone comes in asking hey whos rx8 is that? I say mine, their like that shit is sloww man and their buddies they come in with start laughing.


I ask what do you drive the normal answer comes out to a altima, grand am, civic, and sometimes f150 etc..

I say exactly and continue my convo with whomever i was speaking to at that moment before these fools came in. My comment always instigates more from their mouths and they tend to say my brother in laws, cousins, mothers, fathers, grandson has a 700hp camero that will whoop your ass. I say once again with your right but not on this road out here. The road is always on a curvy farm/cayon road that the parties are off of. The fools respond with bs the 8 is a slow boat and cant take turns.

I said you want to bet? $100 If you can ride in the passenger seat without flinching when I take this turn at 60 instead of rated speed of 15. They always say noo im not making that bet.

So I tell them to stop talking shit about things they dont know until they have the balls to find out.

Happens at least 1 out of 4 parties I visit.

You sir are correct. However, I fear that I do not have the nerve to take a 15mph corner at 60, I dont doubt the car, just myself. But I would totally ride shotgun in the 8 with somebody confident in doing so, but seriously...thats fast.

Its very fast. And takes a lot of confindence. But also I know the turn very well and started slowly, for a couple hours till i got it. First did it at 30-40-50 a good 6 times and then tried 60 made it and worked on it even more.

I only will do that on turns I know very well, if I dont know it I dont fuck wit it. Just like my women. :lol2:

The answer is ignorance. They are not familiar with the rotary engine and therefore tend to believe what they hear and take it as truth.

that's why my sig is:

+1. They hear 1.3 liter and think "Damn, what a crappy car."

The true car enthusiasts I associate with may give me grief from time to time just BSing over a couple beers, but they all respect my car for what it is.

Any naturally aspirated 1.3L engine producing this kind of power is impressive in most peoples opinions.

I get the most grief from Honda fanboys, 16-18 year old street racers, and muscle car fanatics.

BTW, my car, is by far, the slowest car in my 'crew'. My brother has a stroker vette, Challenger, my best friend has a built Evo X, and most of the 'mazda' friends have Mazdaspeed 3s that are far from stock.

All of which rarely say negative comments towards my car. In fact, they defend my car to me at times when I say it's slow.

Get new friends lol.

Peeps always fear and hate what they don't understand.

"Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering.... the Dark Side."

I sense much fear in them. ;)

Opinions are a lot like assholes.

Everyones got one and they all stink.

As cliche as it sounds, insults are usually derived from insecurity. I know this is true because its always the douche that has a rusted civic hatch that has to open his mouth about how slow my car is when his girlfriend says "wow, your car is hot!".

I love RX8s, especially my slow one ;)

I think, don't know, that most of the hate spans from the FD and the fact that the 8 is not one. The FD was a monster and a well respected street race car. It was fast and when modded it was a beast.

Our 8's were not designed to be crazy fast in a straight line, but to be balanced and handle better than almost anything else on the road while still producing decent HP from a NA 1.3. Car enthusiasts get it, meat heads don't. Which is also why the car won best car in Japan and came runner up for best car U.S. when it was released.

I just find it hilarious how much shit honda guys (pretty much just civic owners) will talk shit. The si is a decent performance car, but they all like to act like it's 1 or 2 performance tiers higher than it really is.

We all know you have the slowest 8 anyway.

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yea people in mustangs always used to mess with me and give me thumbs down

when they went by and i always wonder why people hate so much, are they just

jealous that the rx8 look way better than their cars? haha...... people also

wanted to race cuz they thought "o its just an rx8" they would win but i always

mange to win most because i was the better driver. i just dont like when people

dont know and just assume something.

That's confusing... are you saying they win the race but because you're a better driver, you're the real winner? If that is what you're saying, how do you know you're a better driver if they won?

I bet you scrape your bumper alot.

There's a difference between fanboys and enthusiasts.

Enthusiasts look at the attributes of all cars, give everything a fair opinion and just enjoy cars overall.

Fanboys only like THEIR car for the sake of supporting their car. Example, hardcore Ford Fanboys only like 5.0's and cobras and everything else will have a fallout that they will talk shit about.

Im not saying all 8 owners are good either, I've known of some RX8 owners that are complete assholes too and think that everyone else is an idiot if they dont drive an 8.

It comes with the hobby I guess. Kind of like sports, you're going to have good people and assholes. Thats life.

Enjoy your car, it's not like these other people are making the payment for you; which in sense makes their opinion completely useless.

translation:

"Many people believe the RX-8 is slow because they've been told by their friends that this is true. So (wishing to improve upon their own self image) they challenge my car to a race because it seems to them they can't lose. However since I (my own self image being truer to reality than those other guys') am a much better driver than those other guys I usually win. "

cuz we are underpowered and eat gas for lunch...

In comparison to a lot of cars today, this statement is very true and unfortunate.

In 2003 when the RX8 was released, we were right on par performance-wise with the S2000, Audi TT, and 350Z. The Z was obviously much faster, but we actually hung with it just fine on paper. (With a 1.3 Liter Rotary)

Problem is, in the eyes of 'tuners' or 'street racers' or 'fanboys'. Our cars are a hair behind the performance, and virtually unmoddable unless you did major upgrades. For the cost of 200whp in an RX8, you could make a Mustang, 350Z, etc etc very fast. This was opinions in the early days of the RX8.

Now its to the point where we're so behind the curve in terms of acceleration, we really arent competitive with the current cars in the same price bracket. 370Z, Mustang, Camaro, etc. Even Cobalt SS's, GTI's, and TT's all surpassed RX8's by quite a bit in terms of acceleration.

So with that being said, of course all the fanboys and tuners that pick up a motor trend magazine and read the 15.0 1/4 mile time for an RX8 in comparison to the competition; is going to call our cars "Slow POS's", followed by a discussion of our engine problems.

However, even in todays standards with the same modest 232 horsepower as 2004, we are still fairly competitve in a circle and offer a very unique car wrapped in a classy package and a historic engine all for a fair price.

So, reverting to my previous post, there's a difference between fanboys and enthusiasts. You can guess which one will have which opinion or outlook on our car.

My cars engine is still stock but ive managed to beat my friends v6 mustang(06). Barely because he beat me off the line but I did haha. Girls love my car. All you need right?

It's not just RX-8 hate -- it's rotaries in general.

I've had every generation of RX-7 and an RX-5 -- there are just a lot of ignorant kids out there that like to put their two cents in on things bad things they heard from a friend of a friend of a friend who's cousin had one and they had to rebuild the engine every 3000 miles.

well, if u guys have ever watch best motoring (and i'm sure many other) pro magazine's video documentary of track, slolem comparisons of the rx8 vs. a laundry list of other sports cars- such as s2k, rsx, nissan 350z, bmw 3 series, miata etc.

the single, only car that we could beat was sadly, the miata. this was back in 2003/ 2004. so, even in the context of its time, the rx-8 was considered underpowered. and all the cars were driven by comparable, professional race car drivers. so, skill- tho a factor- wasn't really 'the' determining factor- esp since multiple tests comparisons were done.

the comments after each race right after we got the pants beat off of us from each driver testing the 8- was always a unanimous- wow that car was really fun to drive but way underpowered. and that's why we lost the race :lol:

just ask them how many times there car has won the GT series, and the Daytona 24 hours. They can talk shit when there car holds those records.

well, that's completely different- since we're talking about street legal cars- not race cars.

if each of us had that GT series rx8 car in our garages, we'd be king of the hill and chest pumping over everyone... :lol:

but, back to reality... :(

Thank god no one is paying me to win races in my RX8... and all that matters to me as I drive around in my normal everyday life is how much FUN the car is to drive. :p:

That's a point for rotary powered cars, not the rx-8. There's quite a difference between those cars and the RX-8's we drive.

rx8s are chicks cars




























lol im jk :p:


now a jetta thats a chick car :fruit:

Hater comments against any car are typically generated by some kid who delivers pizzas for a living using his 2003 Hyundai Excel with the fartcan muffler.

Also, most people do not 'get' the RX-8 and never will until and unless they drive it.

The 8 is a surgical scalpel in a world full of 'sports cars' that are ball-peen hammers.

Aside from Porsche, BMW, some Italian exotics and maybe a few Audis, does anyone else make a car with a chassis and steering that puts the driver in such close contact with the road - zen mode style?

This car isn't some build with a monster engine having monster torque with a chassis thrown around it and a suspension thrown under it at the last minute as a sloppy afterthought.

Why don't you shut up?

The best way to shut any of them up is just offer a ride. My buddy had a mustang GT and didnt really ever say anything but after the one time he drove it he told everyone how much he liked it. Most people have no idea what a drivers car feels like, they just know what fast in a straight line is supposed to look like.

nicely translated

Ouch?

thats what she said :fruit:

haters will hate ...

Civic is Civic ...

Fartcan is fartcan ...

Rx-8 is Rx-8 ...

haters will always hate ...

I'll second this...my best friend has a 2008 Mustang GT...incredibly nice car, very fast...and the sound Ford gets out of their small-block v8 will always remain a favorite of mine... not to mention it's absolutely no contest in any kind of a straight line, especially in my automatic. Now, that being said...he was incredibly impressed with my car. The FIRST sharp turn i took with him in the passenger seat, hard...and he just shakes his head and goes, "Yeah...there's no way I can keep up with you in the turns."

Same reaction I get all the time..

Absolutely. Remember C&D's 4-way road test with the 8, an Audi TT, a Nissan 350Z and a Mustang Shelby GT?

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...da_rx-8_page_5


First Place: Four of a Kind

Now in its fifth year of production, the Mazda RX-8 is getting gray at the temples. But the virtues that earned it a 10Best selection three times (the RX-8 fell off the list in 2007) are still there. That means a chassis that instantly reacts to driver inputs. At 3060 pounds, the RX-8 is 100 pounds heavier than the TT, but the weight is better balanced from front to rear and the diminutive rotary engine sits low and aft of the front axle. This allows the RX-8 to change direction more quickly, as shown by the lane-change speed, which was more than 4 mph faster than the second-place Audi. The Mazda is easy to drive fast; test drivers all praised the responsive steering and low cowl height, which make it easy to place the car on the track.

The RX-8 is great at speed, but getting up to speed is a challenge. With only 159 pound-feet, the RX-8 has less than half the torque of the Shelby GT. The six-speed gearbox and short gearing don't alleviate the problem, either. On steep grades, downshifts are required from sixth gear to hold a constant speed, and two-lane passing requires a downshift to third and a planted right foot. The lack of oomph was more than a source of constant frustration — running the RX-8 near its 9000-rpm redline burns a lot of fuel as well, resulting in a cruising range of less than 250 miles…

Get off the highway, and the annoyance caused by the wheezy engine subsides as cornering speeds increase. The suspension takes hits from the road like a champion prizefighter, so much so that during our driving loop the RX-8 was actually the fastest car on real-world roads.

On the track, the Mazda couldn't make up for its woeful lack of torque and posted the slowest time around the circuit. But just as on the street, the RX-8 inspires confidence in the driver to carry more speed through the corners, and the challenge of maintaining velocity in this car is ultimately more rewarding than relying on the gas pedal in the others to make up for your mistakes. That's not to say some extra power isn't sorely needed here — it is — but even at the ripe old age of five, the RX-8 pleases us the most.

(Oh, and the Mustang? Came in last.)