Whos Is/Isn't Getting Spare Tire Kit & Why?
05-19-2003, 06:39 PM
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Re: My vote is for having a spare tire
Originally posted by bwayout
Still, I love almost everything else about the RX-8 but at moments like this I remember that the G35 coupe has a spare tire and still has the same size trunk as the RX-8 - plus the G35C also has rear seats that can fold down for more space if you need it ...
Still, I love almost everything else about the RX-8 but at moments like this I remember that the G35 coupe has a spare tire and still has the same size trunk as the RX-8 - plus the G35C also has rear seats that can fold down for more space if you need it ...
(Seriously, I don't think I'd even be considering the RX-8 if it had a normal piston-powered engine...)
05-19-2003, 07:03 PM
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Re: My vote is for having a spare tire
Originally posted by bwayout
Still, I love almost everything else about the RX-8 but at moments like this I remember that the G35 coupe has a spare tire and still has the same size trunk as the RX-8 - plus the G35C also has rear seats that can fold down for more space if you need it ...
Still, I love almost everything else about the RX-8 but at moments like this I remember that the G35 coupe has a spare tire and still has the same size trunk as the RX-8 - plus the G35C also has rear seats that can fold down for more space if you need it ...
05-19-2003, 07:16 PM
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damn 5'7" and you hit the roof in that thing??? i thought car companies used a common height like 5"10 to fit people. I'm 6'3" and i fit in the protege with room to spare and it's a third the price of the G.
05-20-2003, 03:23 PM
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Re: Re: My vote is for having a spare tire
Originally posted by babylou
The G35C is a sweet looking car but for in essence it is really a two seat vehicle. I'm 5'7" short and my head hits the backlight when seated. In fact, my head was not even close to clearing the backlight. If the seat can't come close to fitting an adult can it considered a seat? I say no. Maybe a parcel shelf, but not a seat.
The G35C is a sweet looking car but for in essence it is really a two seat vehicle. I'm 5'7" short and my head hits the backlight when seated. In fact, my head was not even close to clearing the backlight. If the seat can't come close to fitting an adult can it considered a seat? I say no. Maybe a parcel shelf, but not a seat.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...4&pagenumber=2
RX-8 Forum > General Topics > General Automotive > Drove a G35 Coupe today
I agree with you about the looks of the car (IMHO there is nothing quite like it that's out there now), but I (sort of) only need the back seats for my young kids (where having more leg room is better than head room) and would't mind having a larger rear trunk space ... but I'm sure once I drive the car I'll be happy (I hope)...
05-20-2003, 03:37 PM
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Re: Re: My vote is for having a spare tire
Originally posted by BillK
Yeah, but the G35C has those piston things and those valve things...
(Seriously, I don't think I'd even be considering the RX-8 if it had a normal piston-powered engine...)
Yeah, but the G35C has those piston things and those valve things...
(Seriously, I don't think I'd even be considering the RX-8 if it had a normal piston-powered engine...)
Road&Track's Douglas Kott's recent 2004 RX-8 review hits closer to home for me: "With either RX-8, the novelty here (besides the rotary engine) is that you can take three friends along on your sport-car experience... provided two of them are children, or small to adverage-size adults ... in reasonable comfort..."
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05-20-2003, 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Farsyde
damn 5'7" and you hit the roof in that thing??? i thought car companies used a common height like 5"10 to fit people. I'm 6'3" and i fit in the protege with room to spare and it's a third the price of the G.
damn 5'7" and you hit the roof in that thing??? i thought car companies used a common height like 5"10 to fit people. I'm 6'3" and i fit in the protege with room to spare and it's a third the price of the G.
05-21-2003, 07:01 PM
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In another thread the subject of "fix-a-flat" and run-flats came up here:
RX-8 Forum > General Topics > RX-8 Discussion > Internal sales guide
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...3572#post53572
Which raisies a few questions for me:
1). I wonder what the time frame or distance is considered safe (...less than 5 miles? under 50?) to drive around on for either "run-flats or fix-a-flat spray"?
(I spoke with a co-worker and he said with a "fix-a-flat" - he wasn't sure, but it had to be very soon after the gook went in and you will need to get a new tire, can't patch it after the gook goes inside. But the run-flats last longer, you can drive but you still need to get a new tire)
2). Can you reuse and repair a tire that had the "fix-a-flat" gook sprayed inside? (I spoke with the same co-worker and he said: "no - need to get a new tire")
When I did a web search, all I could get on the "fix-a-flat" situation was this...
http://www.abc-7.com/News/diw/fixaflat.shtml
Found this link and it only stated:
Here in Texas, that can be a problem here during the summer
Here's an other link:
http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/TireWhee...heelrepair.htm
... from what I gather they got their tire cleaned out than patched up
... But, I think that I still would like to get a spare tire ... but I also would like to have the trunk space too.
OK, one vote for Pirelli! Thanks, Efini 8
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RX-8 Forum > General Topics > RX-8 Discussion > Internal sales guide
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...3572#post53572
Which raisies a few questions for me:
1). I wonder what the time frame or distance is considered safe (...less than 5 miles? under 50?) to drive around on for either "run-flats or fix-a-flat spray"?
(I spoke with a co-worker and he said with a "fix-a-flat" - he wasn't sure, but it had to be very soon after the gook went in and you will need to get a new tire, can't patch it after the gook goes inside. But the run-flats last longer, you can drive but you still need to get a new tire)
2). Can you reuse and repair a tire that had the "fix-a-flat" gook sprayed inside? (I spoke with the same co-worker and he said: "no - need to get a new tire")
When I did a web search, all I could get on the "fix-a-flat" situation was this...
http://www.abc-7.com/News/diw/fixaflat.shtml
Found this link and it only stated:
http://www.abc-7.com - By Heather Sullivan
"You need to take the tire to a tire shop immediately to get them repaired, checked over and repaired"
...and
"And there is a big warning - the can should never be left in the interior of a hot car. It can explode at 120 degrees. Definitely it should keep it in the trunk of the car and don't park the car in the sun eight to ten hours a day. The trunk is the coolest part of the car"
"You need to take the tire to a tire shop immediately to get them repaired, checked over and repaired"
...and
"And there is a big warning - the can should never be left in the interior of a hot car. It can explode at 120 degrees. Definitely it should keep it in the trunk of the car and don't park the car in the sun eight to ten hours a day. The trunk is the coolest part of the car"
Here's an other link:
http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/TireWhee...heelrepair.htm
Moral: After using fix-a-flat, choose a route allowing continuous motion.
... But, I think that I still would like to get a spare tire ... but I also would like to have the trunk space too.
Originally posted by Efini 8
like someone else said... get Run Flat Technology tires like Pirelli tires. I have 215/35/19 P7000s and I got a screw in mine, and it held up for 48 hours across about 50 miles going about 75 mph average... on like small amounts of psi... my tire is like 2 cm tall from the tip of the rim lip to the end of the tire... absolutely amazing tires... definately sold on pirellis!
like someone else said... get Run Flat Technology tires like Pirelli tires. I have 215/35/19 P7000s and I got a screw in mine, and it held up for 48 hours across about 50 miles going about 75 mph average... on like small amounts of psi... my tire is like 2 cm tall from the tip of the rim lip to the end of the tire... absolutely amazing tires... definately sold on pirellis!
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05-21-2003, 07:50 PM
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So to remedy a blowout, either you give up most of your trunk space, or you lose lots of time by having your car towed (then you're prone to being price gouged)
Whether you go for the spare tire, or the fixaflat, it's going to cost you a pretty penny (since neither is included?).
No matter how I look at it, it seems like a bum deal...
Whether you go for the spare tire, or the fixaflat, it's going to cost you a pretty penny (since neither is included?).
No matter how I look at it, it seems like a bum deal...
05-21-2003, 10:17 PM
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the problem with fix a flat is that it is centrifugal based. Which means the crap acts like a tar on the inside of your tires and the motion of the wheel causes it to coat (hopefully uniformly) all cracks. However, the stuff does "pool" in areas and unbalances the tire which is why after about 100 miles the tire will prolly tear itself apart. I wouldnt drive the thing over 50 miles and that would be to go directly to a tire shop. The tire cannot be reused. I think fix a flat is a great idea but i really dont trust it.
05-22-2003, 08:34 AM
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Here's the catch 22 - you want the spare for long trips and not for local driving. Typically, your trunk is full for long trips and empty for local driving. Is anyone else seeing this???
05-22-2003, 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Farsyde
or dare i say cut a space for it in the back of the rear seats?
or dare i say cut a space for it in the back of the rear seats?
05-22-2003, 02:15 PM
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can you buy just the holder??? cuz 400 bux is extortion for a donut. I'd make my own holder and get a donut with the same bolt pattern from a junk yard for like 10 bux
05-22-2003, 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Farsyde
the problem with fix a flat is that it is centrifugal based. Which means the crap acts like a tar on the inside of your tires and the motion of the wheel causes it to coat (hopefully uniformly) all cracks. However, the stuff does "pool" in areas and unbalances the tire which is why after about 100 miles the tire will prolly tear itself apart. I wouldnt drive the thing over 50 miles and that would be to go directly to a tire shop. The tire cannot be reused. I think fix a flat is a great idea but i really dont trust it.
the problem with fix a flat is that it is centrifugal based. Which means the crap acts like a tar on the inside of your tires and the motion of the wheel causes it to coat (hopefully uniformly) all cracks. However, the stuff does "pool" in areas and unbalances the tire which is why after about 100 miles the tire will prolly tear itself apart. I wouldnt drive the thing over 50 miles and that would be to go directly to a tire shop. The tire cannot be reused. I think fix a flat is a great idea but i really dont trust it.
Actually, I have a staple in my tire right now and I put fix-a-flat in it about...two, maybe three months ago. With the way I drive that is at least 3,000 miles and the tire is holding up fine without any abnormal wear or sign of damage.
YMMV, but I've never had a problem with the stuff.
05-22-2003, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by VWjet
Here's the catch 22 - you want the spare for long trips and not for local driving. Typically, your trunk is full for long trips and empty for local driving. Is anyone else seeing this???
Here's the catch 22 - you want the spare for long trips and not for local driving. Typically, your trunk is full for long trips and empty for local driving. Is anyone else seeing this???
05-23-2003, 03:17 AM
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RX8 is very impressive. :D
I'd like run-flat tires and a tire repair kit or two.
Does anyone know anything about the Slime tire repair kit? I have a tire to repair on an SUV and have a bottle but not sure if I should use it.
If it does its job and won't damage your wheel I think Slime would be good to have. You are suppose to pour it into your tire at an angle then after you air up and begin to move the Slime will cover punctures by spreading over the inside of the tire during the first mile.
Theoretically you could drive up to around 50 miles on a run-flat, dump the Slime inside, air up, drive on it for the rest of its life. I just read that the Fix-A-Flat is very flamable and should be in the trunk (deeper=cooler=safer).
I always seem to come across a nail, or this time, about 4 inches of strong metal wire. Mostly on dirt roads or new construction in neighborhoods. Remember this, and who knows why I spaced, but, don't pull out the piece that punctured your tire until you are at an air source! Not even two blocks away!
I'd like run-flat tires and a tire repair kit or two.
Does anyone know anything about the Slime tire repair kit? I have a tire to repair on an SUV and have a bottle but not sure if I should use it.
If it does its job and won't damage your wheel I think Slime would be good to have. You are suppose to pour it into your tire at an angle then after you air up and begin to move the Slime will cover punctures by spreading over the inside of the tire during the first mile.
Theoretically you could drive up to around 50 miles on a run-flat, dump the Slime inside, air up, drive on it for the rest of its life. I just read that the Fix-A-Flat is very flamable and should be in the trunk (deeper=cooler=safer).
I always seem to come across a nail, or this time, about 4 inches of strong metal wire. Mostly on dirt roads or new construction in neighborhoods. Remember this, and who knows why I spaced, but, don't pull out the piece that punctured your tire until you are at an air source! Not even two blocks away!
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05-25-2003, 06:58 PM
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Does anyone really know how much space is going to be used up with the spare???
From looking at a picture diagragm, the spare looks like most of it is being tucked into the cavity in the far back.
Are there any pictures showing the true trunk space with the spare included?????
-Rooster
From looking at a picture diagragm, the spare looks like most of it is being tucked into the cavity in the far back.
Are there any pictures showing the true trunk space with the spare included?????
-Rooster
05-26-2003, 02:02 PM
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Ok. Let's think about this donut spare that cost $400. First, there are undoubtedly some folks on this site who are actually getting an RX-8. Are they buying them because they are "non-risk takers"? If they are, then they make no sense at all. This is a sports car with some practicality and non-risk takers should look elsewhere. So, let's say you opt for the spare and you're in the boonies (hopefully on pavement anyway) on a trip. The spare is good for a while at 50mph, but you've brought along two friends and their stuff. Are you gonna leave luggage or the big 18" wheel on the side of the road? Leave a friend or relative to mind the stuff? Whatever decision, you get to Brownspot, USA where they have no idea what the car is, know nothing but Goodyear and Firestone tires and their tire mounting machine will destroy your wheel (experience!). So now you have to drive another 300miles to get somewhere BIG that can deal with your tire. IMHO it makes no sense to fret about the fix flat. I took the spare out of my Miata, threw in a can of goo and my small Sears compressor.
If anyone can think it through, logically, then concern for the fix flat should disappear. Who will carry a spare engine part in the unlikely event there is a problem with the RX-8? You won't find parts or even anyone who can diagnose a problem with a rotary engine around the corner. Oh, and let's not for get that you'll be replacing the OEM tires very quickly...with a 140 rating, 10-12k will probably be the max mileage.
If this concerns some so much, then buy a car/truck/SUV that has a full size spare...the only real security for those unwilling to accept some risk. IMHO:D
If anyone can think it through, logically, then concern for the fix flat should disappear. Who will carry a spare engine part in the unlikely event there is a problem with the RX-8? You won't find parts or even anyone who can diagnose a problem with a rotary engine around the corner. Oh, and let's not for get that you'll be replacing the OEM tires very quickly...with a 140 rating, 10-12k will probably be the max mileage.
If this concerns some so much, then buy a car/truck/SUV that has a full size spare...the only real security for those unwilling to accept some risk. IMHO:D
05-26-2003, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by TybeeRX-8
This is a sports car with some practicality and non-risk takers should look elsewhere.
This is a sports car with some practicality and non-risk takers should look elsewhere.
Are you gonna leave luggage or the big 18" wheel on the side of the road? Leave a friend or relative to mind the stuff?
...and their tire mounting machine will destroy your wheel (experience!).
Who will carry a spare engine part in the unlikely event there is a problem with the RX-8?
...let's not for get that you'll be replacing the OEM tires very quickly...with a 140 rating, 10-12k will probably be the max mileage.
Also, you didn't account for having a flat that could not be repaired by fix-a-flat. You just gonna wait for a tow truck? Or leave your car on the side of the road?
I think I'll stick with being as prepared as possible, and choose the spare tire kit. I'll have full insurance coverage, too... I'm not much of a risk taker!:p
(All just MHO)
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05-27-2003, 11:00 AM
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i agree with javahut. While many flats prolly are caused by a nail or something that the fix a flat can fix, it wont fix any sidewall blowouts. And i bet dollars to donuts that it wont fix any puncture greater than 3/8 or an inch (i know this is gargantuan but a wood steak or big nail will do this). Im not sayin fix a flat is bad, but a spare is worth more than its weight in gold in most circumstances
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Most common side wall damage is from sharp rocks when off-roading in a 4x4.
Correct me if I'm wrong but for a passenger car the likely hood is probably very low unless you've gotten a defective tire. It can happen but most likely it would happen in an urban area. Ie. something metal sticking out from the curb as was the case with someone I was with.
Again I think run-flat-tires and a couple bottles of Slime is the best setup for a sports car. Besides changing tires is a PITA. Easier to drive to the nearest air source, remove the object, dump in some Slime, fill'er up and drive off.
Correct me if I'm wrong but for a passenger car the likely hood is probably very low unless you've gotten a defective tire. It can happen but most likely it would happen in an urban area. Ie. something metal sticking out from the curb as was the case with someone I was with.
Again I think run-flat-tires and a couple bottles of Slime is the best setup for a sports car. Besides changing tires is a PITA. Easier to drive to the nearest air source, remove the object, dump in some Slime, fill'er up and drive off.